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On 8 November 2015 at 04:19, Tom Bongiorno <tbjr@bongohut.com> wrote:

> It is interesting to here that it will decode MPEG2. Are you sure that your
> recordings are MPEG2? There is no mention of MPEG2 support in the specs for
> the ATV4.

Seeing that the decoder is VideoToolbox, and it supports mpeg2, mpeg4
part 2 and mpeg4 part 10 (h264)
it's not surprising. it would be surprising if it didn't.
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On 9 November 2015 at 11:32, Bart Whiteley <bart.lists@whiteley.org> wrote:
> I wrote the MythTV app for tvOS (Apple TV 4). I'm glad you're enjoying it
> and that you found the 30 second skip feature.

While it's great to have an app ; the use of the name MythTV is bothering me.
You should have used another name
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Not to derail this, but I think creating a plex channel for myth would be
better than atv app. Especially since you write it once, and it will work
everywhere plex works - which is a lot of places now. Including atv, ios,
roku, chromecast, etc.

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 10:27 PM, Jean-Yves Avenard <jyavenard@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 9 November 2015 at 11:32, Bart Whiteley <bart.lists@whiteley.org>
> wrote:
> > I wrote the MythTV app for tvOS (Apple TV 4). I'm glad you're enjoying it
> > and that you found the 30 second skip feature.
>
> While it's great to have an app ; the use of the name MythTV is bothering
> me.
> You should have used another name
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On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 4:38 AM, Min Idzelis <min123@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not to derail this, but I think creating a plex channel for myth would be
> better than atv app.

I seem to recall someone had written a plex channel for accessing
MythTV(*). But then you probably already know that, and have found
it to be inadequate for your needs. I am sure that the other plex
users await your code contributions to make it better.



(*) Never used it, likely never will, but I do recall seeing something
pass by in the ether(net).
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On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 3:27 AM, Jean-Yves Avenard <jyavenard@gmail.com> wrote:
.....
> While it's great to have an app ; the use of the name MythTV is bothering me.
> You should have used another name

Was the MythTV name ever trademarked by one of the core devs?
While someone else may not be able to claim ownership, if you do
not have a trademark, the name usage really is "up for grabs" limited to
gentleman's agreements (and not everyone is going to be a gentleman).
Last I recall the micro entity trademark fee is not outrageously outrageous.
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:42:49PM -0500, Tom Bongiorno wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 11:51 AM, jedi <jedi@mishnet.org> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 09:54:42AM -0500, Tom Bongiorno wrote:
> > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Simon Hobson <linux@thehobsons.co.uk>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > jedi <jedi@mishnet.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Apple's apparent
> > > > > hostility to MPEG2 has always intrigued me.
> > > >
> > > > Really simple and short answer - they don't give a **** because that
> > > > doesn't earn them anything !
> > > >
> > > > Remember that Apple long since abandoned all but a pretence about it
> > being
> > > > about "the customer" - now it's clear that the whole strategy is about
> > > > proprietary systems, customer locking, walled gardens, and taking a
> > slice
> > > > (30%) of everything the user spends.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps I'm just getting cynical, but I get the impression that any
> > > > ability they offer to access "your own stuff" is incidental and only
> > > > allowed grudgingly on the basis that they can't get away with not
> > > > supporting it (yet).
> >
> > [deletia]
> >
> > >
> > > You are correct, you are getting cynical. Again, none of the low power
> > > streaming devices natively support MPEG2 for good reason. None of the
> > > streaming services, that they were created to serve, stream in MPEG2. And
> >
> > That's a stupid reason. That ingores one of the original use cases
> > for home video, namely creating your own content. People already have
> > stuff. These aren't even terribly geeky people. They have it because
> > previous generations of devices used those old formats.
> >

[deletia]

>
> Outside of our niche group, MythTV users and the like, who is creating
> their own MPEG2 content?

Anyone with an older camera or phone. There are plenty of rubes that can
point a camera and hit the record button. Even if they've moved on to "newer
and flashier" devices, they are still likely have old stuff that now might as
well be on VHS tape.

It's easy to forsee a time when h264 is treated as a marginal legacy
format for similar reasons.


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On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 01:01:30PM -0500, Tom Bongiorno wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Tom Bongiorno <tbjr@bongohut.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Eric Sharkey <eric@lisaneric.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Tom Bongiorno <tbjr@bongohut.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Outside of our niche group, MythTV users and the like, who is creating
> >> their
> >> > own MPEG2 content?
> >>
> >> Anyone wishing to mail a DVD to grand-ma? Some people aren't very
> >> tech savy but can manage to stick a disc in a player.
> >>
> >> Eric

[deletia]

> >
> > I am also impressed that grand-ma has an ATV and MythTV setup!
> >
>
> This is funny think about...
>
> Grand-mas with an ATV, MythTV, and grandchild willing to set it all up and
> send her DVDs has to be the most niche of niche groups ever! Certainly not
> a good ROI.

No. The sensible design would be a streamer with a thumbdrive and decent
format support. Then you wouldn't have to be some sort of ubergeek to support
a simple "home movie" use case.

The virtue of a DVD is that it is standardized, simple, and requires few
to zero moving parts versus setting up something like MythTV or Plex.
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 07:53:09PM +0000, Mike Perkins wrote:
> On 10/11/15 17:42, Tom Bongiorno wrote:
> >>[deletia]
> >
> >Outside of our niche group, MythTV users and the like, who is creating
> >their own MPEG2 content?
> >
> Well, every Standard Definition digital TV broadcast in the UK, for starters.

...also, every digital TV broadcast in the USA.

>
> HD has gone to h264 but I don't think there are any plans to
> retrofit to SD. There's just too much existing hardware out there.
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 11:39:36PM +0100, Hika van den Hoven wrote:
> Hoi Tom,
>
> Tuesday, November 10, 2015, 10:44:34 PM, you wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Mike Perkins <mikep@randomtraveller.org.uk>
> > wrote:
>
> >> On 10/11/15 17:42, Tom Bongiorno wrote:
> >>
> >>> [deletia]
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Outside of our niche group, MythTV users and the like, who is creating
> >>> their own MPEG2 content?
> >>>
> >>> Well, every Standard Definition digital TV broadcast in the UK, for
> >> starters.
> >>
> >> HD has gone to h264 but I don't think there are any plans to retrofit to
> >> SD. There's just too much existing hardware out there.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Mike Perkins
> >>
> >>
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>
> > So, who is this non MythTV user, who is broadcasting his SD home videos in
> > MPEG2 format all over the UK?
>
> > The only point I am trying to make is that all of these streaming devices
> > are made for streaming commercial content over the internet and, as jedi
> > mentioned, personal content. Outside of MythTV users and the like, I know
> > of no personal content encoded in MPEG2.
>
> > I will ask my question again. Outside of our niche group, MythTV users and
> > the like, who is creating their own MPEG2 content?
>
> He is talking about the majority of the 'COMMERCIAL' broadcasters in
> Europe. It may surprise you, but there is live outside the US!

I hadn't even thought of MythTV recordings originally.

I was mainly thinking about my still and video camera and the various
things I have accumulated over the years. The inlaws also have their own
camera and collection of old home movies.

Mine are all tagged and bagged and sorted via MythTV.

The Olds are pretty much out of luck.
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On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 04:54:08AM +0000, Gary Buhrmaster wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 4:38 AM, Min Idzelis <min123@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Not to derail this, but I think creating a plex channel for myth would be
> > better than atv app.
>
> I seem to recall someone had written a plex channel for accessing
> MythTV(*). But then you probably already know that, and have found
> it to be inadequate for your needs. I am sure that the other plex
> users await your code contributions to make it better.

...except someone else has already decided to to this work.

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On 11/11/2015 11:06 AM, Bart Whiteley wrote:
>
>
> Are you developing this on your own or are you looking to build a
> team? Would you like feedback?
>
>
> It's just me in my spare time. Are you interested in collaborating?
> Feedback is welcome.

Thanks for your work. With ATV4, I'm able to combine my Plex/Kodi
library along with streaming services, and now MythTV front-end. I was
hoping MythTV would come and I was surprised that someone tackled it so
soon. I bought your app last night after reading this discussion, and
it is a great start. Here's my feedback:

1. The menu for "Play"/"Delete" after selecting a show is clunky. I
think it just go straight into playing the show because that is what I
want 99% of the time. If I hit the menu button, then I should be given
some options, including delete.

2. Having MythTV groupings show up as a top hierarchy would be nice. I
record almost all the local news, but I have it in a "News" group, away
from the "Default". Having it all combined makes it more difficult to
find something.

3. Alphabetical sorting of the show list in addition to "Most Recent".

4. I prefer Apple's navigation interface over the swiping up and down in
an effort to emulate MythTV's. I believe it is possible to distinguish
clicks on the left and right side of the remote for skipping forward and
back. It would be nice to have the standard navigation as a option to
the MythTV navigation. Swiping down should bring down the upper menu
with audio and close-captioning options, like it does elsewhere.

5. Commercial skipping. :)

Hi Pete. Thanks for the note. Comments below.

On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Pete Ashdown <pashdown@xmission.com> wrote:

> Thanks for your work. With ATV4, I'm able to combine my Plex/Kodi library
> along with streaming services, and now MythTV front-end. I was hoping
> MythTV would come and I was surprised that someone tackled it so soon. I
> bought your app last night after reading this discussion, and it is a great
> start. Here's my feedback:
>
> 1. The menu for "Play"/"Delete" after selecting a show is clunky. I think
> it just go straight into playing the show because that is what I want 99%
> of the time. If I hit the menu button, then I should be given some
> options, including delete.
>

If you click the Play/Pause button instead of Select, it will begin
playback immediately. According to Apple, the Menu button should "Return to
previous screen." [1]


>
> 2. Having MythTV groupings show up as a top hierarchy would be nice. I
> record almost all the local news, but I have it in a "News" group, away
> from the "Default". Having it all combined makes it more difficult to find
> something.
>

That's a good suggestion.


>
> 3. Alphabetical sorting of the show list in addition to "Most Recent".
>

I have an update waiting for review that includes alphabetical sorting of
recordings if enabled in Settings.


>
> 4. I prefer Apple's navigation interface over the swiping up and down in
> an effort to emulate MythTV's. I believe it is possible to distinguish
> clicks on the left and right side of the remote for skipping forward and
> back. It would be nice to have the standard navigation as a option to the
> MythTV navigation. Swiping down should bring down the upper menu with
> audio and close-captioning options, like it does elsewhere.
>

I actually implemented that but disabled it for the time being. It's tricky
because when you press to click the trackpad, your thumb smashes into the
trackpad which creates a larger area of contact and moves the touch point
closer to the center. It will take a bit of finesse to adjust it to feel
right.


>
> 5. Commercial skipping. :)
>

That should be possible once MythTV 0.28 is released.


[1]
https://developer.apple.com/tvos/human-interface-guidelines/remote-and-interaction/

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Craig Treleaven <ctreleaven@cogeco.ca>
wrote:

> Which de-interlacer are you using? Do you offer de-interlacing options?
>
>
An update released today that uses Linear as the default de-interlacer. It
was previously Blend. You can change the de-interlace filter in Settings.

The update also includes support for universal or HDMI-CEC remotes.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Bart Whiteley <bart.lists@whiteley.org>
wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Craig Treleaven <ctreleaven@cogeco.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Which de-interlacer are you using? Do you offer de-interlacing options?
>>
>>
> An update released today that uses Linear as the default de-interlacer. It
> was previously Blend. You can change the de-interlace filter in Settings.
>
> The update also includes support for universal or HDMI-CEC remotes.
>

Skip ahead/back via my universal remote arrow keys is a big improvement.
I don’t use the “siri remote” at all, so this change was really needed for
me.

I tried the deinterlacing settings, but switched back to the default. The
other one I was trying (I forgot exactly which) looked a little funny on
fast moving sports. Is there any information available on which settings
work best with what content?



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Hi Bart,

The app looks great, and was the tipping point for me to buy the 4th gen.

On Dec 3, 2015 2:21 PM, "Bart Whiteley" <bart.lists@whiteley.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Pete. Thanks for the note. Comments below.
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Pete Ashdown <pashdown@xmission.com>
wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for your work. With ATV4, I'm able to combine my Plex/Kodi
library along with streaming services, and now MythTV front-end. I was
hoping MythTV would come and I was surprised that someone tackled it so
soon. I bought your app last night after reading this discussion, and it
is a great start. Here's my feedback:
>>
>> 1. The menu for "Play"/"Delete" after selecting a show is clunky. I
think it just go straight into playing the show because that is what I want
99% of the time. If I hit the menu button, then I should be given some
options, including delete.
>
>
> If you click the Play/Pause button instead of Select, it will begin
playback immediately. According to Apple, the Menu button should "Return to
previous screen." [1]
>

Do you have any plans for the long click event from the listing? I can't
let my 4 year old use the siri remote for his shows since he has
accidentally deleted recordings with the normal click. He has not figured
out the long click yet though and it seems like a good way to bring up
other recoding specific actions like delete, re-record, etc..

>>
>>
>> 2. Having MythTV groupings show up as a top hierarchy would be nice. I
record almost all the local news, but I have it in a "News" group, away
from the "Default". Having it all combined makes it more difficult to find
something.
>
>
> That's a good suggestion.
>
>>
>>
>> 3. Alphabetical sorting of the show list in addition to "Most Recent".
>
>
> I have an update waiting for review that includes alphabetical sorting of
recordings if enabled in Settings.
>
>>
>>
>> 4. I prefer Apple's navigation interface over the swiping up and down in
an effort to emulate MythTV's. I believe it is possible to distinguish
clicks on the left and right side of the remote for skipping forward and
back. It would be nice to have the standard navigation as a option to the
MythTV navigation. Swiping down should bring down the upper menu with
audio and close-captioning options, like it does elsewhere.
>
>
> I actually implemented that but disabled it for the time being. It's
tricky because when you press to click the trackpad, your thumb smashes
into the trackpad which creates a larger area of contact and moves the
touch point closer to the center. It will take a bit of finesse to adjust
it to feel right.
>
>>
>>
>> 5. Commercial skipping. :)
>
>
> That should be possible once MythTV 0.28 is released.
>
>
> [1]
https://developer.apple.com/tvos/human-interface-guidelines/remote-and-interaction/
>
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On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Eric Pheatt <eric.pheatt@gmail.com> wrote:

> The app looks great, and was the tipping point for me to buy the 4th gen.
>

Thanks!


> Do you have any plans for the long click event from the listing? I can't
> let my 4 year old use the siri remote for his shows since he has
> accidentally deleted recordings with the normal click. He has not figured
> out the long click yet though and it seems like a good way to bring up
> other recoding specific actions like delete, re-record, etc..
>

That's a good idea. I'll look into that.

Ditto here.

My AppleTV 2 keeps flaking out. And my Atom-powered minimyth frontend doesn't seem to handle AVC transport streams. So I ordered an ATV4 (64GB) on Black Friday - should be here next week. And I'll be downloading your MythTV app asap. I just hope the photo navigation is improved.

It's awesome that MythTV's architecture supports such highly-functional front ends. Nothing else seems to be able to touch it...

cp

On 12/5/15 1:20 PM, Eric Pheatt wrote:

Hi Bart,

The app looks great, and was the tipping point for me to buy the 4th gen.

On Dec 3, 2015 2:21 PM, "Bart Whiteley" <bart.lists@whiteley.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Pete. Thanks for the note. Comments below.
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Pete Ashdown <pashdown@xmission.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for your work.  With ATV4, I'm able to combine my Plex/Kodi library along with streaming services, and now MythTV front-end.  I was hoping MythTV would come and I was surprised that someone tackled it so soon.  I bought your app last night after reading this discussion, and it is a great start. Here's my feedback:
>>
>> 1. The menu for "Play"/"Delete" after selecting a show is clunky.  I think it just go straight into playing the show because that is what I want 99% of the time.  If I hit the menu button, then I should be given some options, including delete.
>
>
> If you click the Play/Pause button instead of Select, it will begin playback immediately. According to Apple, the Menu button should "Return to previous screen." [1]
>  

Do you have any plans for the long click event from the listing? I can't let my 4 year old use the siri remote for his shows since he has accidentally deleted recordings with the normal click. He has not figured out the long click yet though and it seems like a good way to bring up other recoding specific actions like delete, re-record, etc..

>>
>>
>> 2. Having MythTV groupings show up as a top hierarchy would be nice.  I record almost all the local news, but I have it in a "News" group, away from the "Default".  Having it all combined makes it more difficult to find something.
>
>
> That's a good suggestion.
>  
>>
>>
>> 3. Alphabetical sorting of the show list in addition to "Most Recent".
>
>
> I have an update waiting for review that includes alphabetical sorting of recordings if enabled in Settings.
>  
>>
>>
>> 4. I prefer Apple's navigation interface over the swiping up and down in an effort to emulate MythTV's.  I believe it is possible to distinguish clicks on the left and right side of the remote for skipping forward and back.  It would be nice to have the standard navigation as a option to the MythTV navigation.  Swiping down should bring down the upper menu with audio and close-captioning options, like it does elsewhere.
>
>
> I actually implemented that but disabled it for the time being. It's tricky because when you press to click the trackpad, your thumb smashes into the trackpad which creates a larger area of contact and moves the touch point closer to the center. It will take a bit of finesse to adjust it to feel right.
>  
>>
>>
>> 5. Commercial skipping. :)
>
>
> That should be possible once MythTV 0.28 is released. 
>
>
> [1] https://developer.apple.com/tvos/human-interface-guidelines/remote-and-interaction/"]https://developer.apple.com/tvos/human-interface-guidelines/remote-and-interaction/
>
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I've just ordered an AppleTV 4 and I'm looking forward to trying out Bart's
app.
In the meantime I'll add on to Pete's feedback below.

On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Pete Ashdown <pashdown@xmission.com> wrote:

> Would you like feedback [on your mythtv frontend app for AppleTV 4] ?
>>
>
> Feedback is welcome.
>
> Thanks for your work. With ATV4, I'm able to combine my Plex/Kodi library
> along with streaming services, and now MythTV front-end. I was hoping
> MythTV would come and I was surprised that someone tackled it so soon.


+1.


> I bought your app last night after reading this discussion, and it is a
> great start. Here's my feedback:
>
> 1. The menu for "Play"/"Delete" after selecting a show is clunky. I think
> it just go straight into playing the show because that is what I want 99%
> of the time. If I hit the menu button, then I should be given some
> options, including delete.
>
> 2. Having MythTV groupings show up as a top hierarchy would be nice. I
> record almost all the local news, but I have it in a "News" group, away
> from the "Default". Having it all combined makes it more difficult to find
> something.
>

This makes sense. I use groups so expect I'd be a +1 on this when I get
running.

3. Alphabetical sorting of the show list in addition to "Most Recent".
>
> 4. I prefer Apple's navigation interface over the swiping up and down in
> an effort to emulate MythTV's. I believe it is possible to distinguish
> clicks on the left and right side of the remote for skipping forward and
> back. It would be nice to have the standard navigation as a option to the
> MythTV navigation. Swiping down should bring down the upper menu with
> audio and close-captioning options, like it does elsewhere.
>
> 5. Commercial skipping. :)


+1. I love skipping commercials.

6. Bookmarking

I have a couple of frontends around the house now and enjoy being able to
start a show on one, save a bookmark, and then pick it up again later from
the bookmark using the same frontend or a different frontend.

I'm on mythtv .28 so I can contribute to testing with that version. Sounds
like that may matter for the Service API support.

On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Andrew Codrington <
andrew.codrington@fidenti.ca> wrote:

> 6. Bookmarking
>
> I have a couple of frontends around the house now and enjoy being able to
> start a show on one, save a bookmark, and then pick it up again later from
> the bookmark using the same frontend or a different frontend.
>

Bookmarks are currently stored in iCloud, so they are synced across all
your Apple TVs. They are not synced with the native MythTV FE though. I
would like to store the bookmarks on the BE instead of iCloud so they are
shared with the native FE. It looks like there is a way to do that but it
is not straightforward. Someone sent me a link to a Python script that does
it, but I haven't had a chance to reverse-engineer it yet.


> I'm on mythtv .28 so I can contribute to testing with that version. Sounds
> like that may matter for the Service API support.
>

Yes, please let me know how it works on .28.

On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Pete Ashdown <pashdown@xmission.com> wrote:
> I prefer Apple's navigation interface over the swiping up and down in an
> effort to emulate MythTV's. I believe it is possible to distinguish clicks
> on the left and right side of the remote for skipping forward and back. It
> would be nice to have the standard navigation as a option to the MythTV
> navigation.

An update went out today that includes this change. Clicking the right
or left edges of the trackpad skips forward or back.
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On Dec 19, 2015, at 4:51 PM, Bart Whiteley <bart.lists@whiteley.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Pete Ashdown <pashdown@xmission.com> wrote:
>> I prefer Apple's navigation interface over the swiping up and down in an
>> effort to emulate MythTV's. I believe it is possible to distinguish clicks
>> on the left and right side of the remote for skipping forward and back. It
>> would be nice to have the standard navigation as a option to the MythTV
>> navigation.
>
> An update went out today that includes this change. Clicking the right
> or left edges of the trackpad skips forward or back.

I just setup my new Apple TV and your app is working great, thanks!

I prefer operating in the Enable Arrow Buttons: No mode to avoid inadvertent seeking. But then I miss the 10 minute forward/back seek that seems to only be available with top/bottom taps when arrow buttons are enabled. Is it possible for the trackpad on the Siri remote to detect top/bottom clicks like it does with left/right?

I have a feature request. I generally like my recordings grouped alphabetically. But sometimes I want to work through recent recordings. With the full Mythfrontend, I use the ‘All Programs’ group to accomplish this. Could you add a group like this to your app?

I also have an issue to report. I started watching the Orange Bowl today about 20 minutes after the recording started. The recording is scheduled to last 4 hours and this was the time displayed on the far right of the seek bar. However, it was counting down rapidly and the current position indicator was counting up rapidly. The 10 second seek back didn’t seem to work at all and the 30 second seek forward seemed to only go forward about 10 seconds. Is this a known issue? The recording source is MPEG2 from an HDHR.

Chris
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I installed the MythTV for my ATV4 as soon as I found out about it. Many thanks for it. It is an enabler towards single frontend device in my living room which has been my dream for so long.

Couple of things to make it better for your backlog:
* UTF8 as default codepage, or possibility to chang it, there is life outside ascii :)
* DVB text (I can provide examples for both SD and HD content)
* guide/recording
* live-tv

Probably third and fourth on the list are already on your todo list.

Looking forward to future versions,

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On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 2:30 AM, Jari Seppälä
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> I installed the MythTV for my ATV4 as soon as I found out about it. Many thanks for it. It is an enabler towards single frontend device in my living room which has been my dream for so long.

Thanks for the feedback. I share your dream. I've wanted to build this
app for years. I've just been waiting for Apple to open up the
platform.

>
> Couple of things to make it better for your backlog:
> * UTF8 as default codepage, or possibility to chang it, there is life outside ascii :)

Are you seeing a problem with this? If so I'd like to contact you
off-list and get an example of your metadata.

> * DVB text (I can provide examples for both SD and HD content)

Examples would be appreciated.

> * guide/recording
> * live-tv
>
> Probably third and fourth on the list are already on your todo list.

Correct.

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On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Chris Hoff <hoffchris@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I just setup my new Apple TV and your app is working great, thanks!

Glad to hear it!

>
> I prefer operating in the Enable Arrow Buttons: No mode to avoid inadvertent seeking. But then I miss the 10 minute forward/back seek that seems to only be available with top/bottom taps when arrow buttons are enabled. Is it possible for the trackpad on the Siri remote to detect top/bottom clicks like it does with left/right?

I have a new version waiting for review by Apple that removes the
Enable Arrow Buttons setting. Instead, the buttons always work on
universal remotes and trackpad taps are always ignored. This is the
way I wanted it to be all along but the SDK doesn't make it easy to
distinguish universal remote button presses vs. trackpad taps.

I could detect top/bottom clicks on the trackpad. It was my belief
that if you wanted to skip as far as 10 minutes, then clicking and
scrubbing with the thumbnailer would be much preferred to a 10-minute
skip. Perhaps that was a bad assumption. Also, top/bottom clicks don't
feel quite as nice in part due to the "diving board" effect of the
trackpad -- the pressure required to click is inconsistent across the
vertical position. It's also not easy to tell where the trackpad stops
at the bottom.

>
> I have a feature request. I generally like my recordings grouped alphabetically. But sometimes I want to work through recent recordings. With the full Mythfrontend, I use the ‘All Programs’ group to accomplish this. Could you add a group like this to your app?

Yes. I'll add that to the list. Thanks for the feedback.

>
> I also have an issue to report. I started watching the Orange Bowl today about 20 minutes after the recording started. The recording is scheduled to last 4 hours and this was the time displayed on the far right of the seek bar. However, it was counting down rapidly and the current position indicator was counting up rapidly. The 10 second seek back didn’t seem to work at all and the 30 second seek forward seemed to only go forward about 10 seconds. Is this a known issue? The recording source is MPEG2 from an HDHR.

This is a known problem while watching a recording in progress. I'm
working on a solution to improve that situation.

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On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Bart Whiteley <bart.lists@whiteley.org>
wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Chris Hoff <hoffchris@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I just setup my new Apple TV and your app is working great, thanks!
>
> Glad to hear it!
>
> >
> > I prefer operating in the Enable Arrow Buttons: No mode to avoid
> inadvertent seeking. But then I miss the 10 minute forward/back seek that
> seems to only be available with top/bottom taps when arrow buttons are
> enabled. Is it possible for the trackpad on the Siri remote to detect
> top/bottom clicks like it does with left/right?
>
> I have a new version waiting for review by Apple that removes the
> Enable Arrow Buttons setting. Instead, the buttons always work on
> universal remotes and trackpad taps are always ignored. This is the
> way I wanted it to be all along but the SDK doesn't make it easy to
> distinguish universal remote button presses vs. trackpad taps.
>
> I could detect top/bottom clicks on the trackpad. It was my belief
> that if you wanted to skip as far as 10 minutes, then clicking and
> scrubbing with the thumbnailer would be much preferred to a 10-minute
> skip. Perhaps that was a bad assumption. Also, top/bottom clicks don't
> feel quite as nice in part due to the "diving board" effect of the
> trackpad -- the pressure required to click is inconsistent across the
> vertical position. It's also not easy to tell where the trackpad stops
> at the bottom.
>
> >
> > I have a feature request. I generally like my recordings grouped
> alphabetically. But sometimes I want to work through recent recordings.
> With the full Mythfrontend, I use the ‘All Programs’ group to accomplish
> this. Could you add a group like this to your app?
>
> Yes. I'll add that to the list. Thanks for the feedback.
>
> >
> > I also have an issue to report. I started watching the Orange Bowl
> today about 20 minutes after the recording started. The recording is
> scheduled to last 4 hours and this was the time displayed on the far right
> of the seek bar. However, it was counting down rapidly and the current
> position indicator was counting up rapidly. The 10 second seek back didn’t
> seem to work at all and the 30 second seek forward seemed to only go
> forward about 10 seconds. Is this a known issue? The recording source is
> MPEG2 from an HDHR.
>
> This is a known problem while watching a recording in progress. I'm
> working on a solution to improve that situation.
>
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I also just installed this MythTV app for my AppleTV and it's working great
so far. Any chance of adding MythVideo support to the app?