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Location of next Xen Project Developer Summit / User Summit (please respond by end of September)
Hi all,

I am CC’ing all the subprojects (and project leads of sub projects who are not yet fully operational in terms of infrastructure) to get feedback on next years events. I know we all agreed that we would alternate between Europe and the US, but this may be challenging next year, because there may not be enough space. So I wanted to get your feed and will need to make a decision before the next Advisory Board meeting in October. Ideally well before.

Let me lay out what I know.
* LinuxCon US will be in Seattle Aug 17-19
* Linux Plumbers will be in Seattle Aug 19, with mini summits Aug 20 & 21st
* There will also be a new Container Con Aug 20 & 21st
* KVM Forum is thinking but have not decided to be in Seattle also sometimes between Aug 19 - 21st
* There is just enough space for a Xen Project Summit from Aug 19 - 21st
* LinuxCon EU is most likely in Brussels end of September, but it is likely that there is not enough space

I also want to move back to a model where we don’t have a separate user and developer summit. It is to expensive and too hard to organise. What we would do is have these semi-separate (e.g. User Summit before the Dev Summit) and we allow users to stay on and attend the Dev Summit using some discounted tickets if they want. The main rationale is to save cost and get maximum impact from sponsorships to subsidise the event(s).

But we need to make a decision pretty soon. My thinking was the following:
* Developer Summit on 20 & 21st
* Developer Meeting, Board Meetings, Hackspace and Working Group would be held on the 19th.
* We could also have a User Focussed Day on the 19th - the limitation is that on the 19th we cannot get rooms holding more than 60 people
* Try to do something together with KVM Forum (E.g. a joint social event or something - assuming they buy into it and decide for Seattle, or a joint Hackathon)
* The problem is that this would be a very intensive week and that some people may have to juggle schedules as they may have to attend several events.

On the other hand, there is likely not enough space to co-locate with LinuxCon EU. And we always also have a very big presence at FOSDEM in Brussels. So co-locating seems not quite right, as we are almost competing with ourselves in the same location that year.

Please let me know what your preferences are. I can then get back to the Advisory Board and get this closed. And I need to know before the end of the month as otherwise we will run out of options.

Best Regards
Lars
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Re: [win-pv-devel] Location of next Xen Project Developer Summit / User Summit (please respond by end of September) [ In reply to ]
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> bounces@lists.xenproject.org] On Behalf Of Lars Kurth
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> Cc: Russell Pavlicek
> Subject: [win-pv-devel] Location of next Xen Project Developer Summit /
> User Summit (please respond by end of September)
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am CC'ing all the subprojects (and project leads of sub projects who are not
> yet fully operational in terms of infrastructure) to get feedback on next years
> events. I know we all agreed that we would alternate between Europe and
> the US, but this may be challenging next year, because there may not be
> enough space. So I wanted to get your feed and will need to make a decision
> before the next Advisory Board meeting in October. Ideally well before.
>
> Let me lay out what I know.
> * LinuxCon US will be in Seattle Aug 17-19
> * Linux Plumbers will be in Seattle Aug 19, with mini summits Aug 20 & 21st
> * There will also be a new Container Con Aug 20 & 21st
> * KVM Forum is thinking but have not decided to be in Seattle also
> sometimes between Aug 19 - 21st
> * There is just enough space for a Xen Project Summit from Aug 19 - 21st
> * LinuxCon EU is most likely in Brussels end of September, but it is likely that
> there is not enough space
>
> I also want to move back to a model where we don't have a separate user
> and developer summit. It is to expensive and too hard to organise. What we
> would do is have these semi-separate (e.g. User Summit before the Dev
> Summit) and we allow users to stay on and attend the Dev Summit using
> some discounted tickets if they want. The main rationale is to save cost and
> get maximum impact from sponsorships to subsidise the event(s).
>
> But we need to make a decision pretty soon. My thinking was the following:
> * Developer Summit on 20 & 21st
> * Developer Meeting, Board Meetings, Hackspace and Working Group would
> be held on the 19th.
> * We could also have a User Focussed Day on the 19th - the limitation is that
> on the 19th we cannot get rooms holding more than 60 people
> * Try to do something together with KVM Forum (E.g. a joint social event or
> something - assuming they buy into it and decide for Seattle, or a joint
> Hackathon)
> * The problem is that this would be a very intensive week and that some
> people may have to juggle schedules as they may have to attend several
> events.
>

Indeed. Do we really want to be at the same time as KVM forum? I can imagine several folks having clashes.

Paul

> On the other hand, there is likely not enough space to co-locate with
> LinuxCon EU. And we always also have a very big presence at FOSDEM in
> Brussels. So co-locating seems not quite right, as we are almost competing
> with ourselves in the same location that year.
>
> Please let me know what your preferences are. I can then get back to the
> Advisory Board and get this closed. And I need to know before the end of
> the month as otherwise we will run out of options.
>
> Best Regards
> Lars
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Re: [win-pv-devel] Location of next Xen Project Developer Summit / User Summit (please respond by end of September) [ In reply to ]
On 18 Sep 2014, at 01:58, Paul Durrant <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com> wrote:
>>
>> * The problem is that this would be a very intensive week and that some
>> people may have to juggle schedules as they may have to attend several
>> events.
>>
>
> Indeed. Do we really want to be at the same time as KVM forum? I can imagine several folks having clashes.
>
I don’t think collocating with KVM Forum is going to be a big issue. We had this in the past and at most 2-3 people are affected. Linux Plumbers is more challenging. However Stefano told me that the key issue would be if the main plumbers day (day 1) overlapped with our event. Having the mini summits is probably less of an issue
Lars
Re: [Xen-devel] Location of next Xen Project Developer Summit / User Summit (please respond by end of September) [ In reply to ]
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 05:30:29PM -0700, Lars Kurth wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am CC’ing all the subprojects (and project leads of sub projects who are not yet fully operational in terms of infrastructure) to get feedback on next years events. I know we all agreed that we would alternate between Europe and the US, but this may be challenging next year, because there may not be enough space. So I wanted to get your feed and will need to make a decision before the next Advisory Board meeting in October. Ideally well before.
>
> Let me lay out what I know.
> * LinuxCon US will be in Seattle Aug 17-19
> * Linux Plumbers will be in Seattle Aug 19, with mini summits Aug 20 & 21st
> * There will also be a new Container Con Aug 20 & 21st
> * KVM Forum is thinking but have not decided to be in Seattle also sometimes between Aug 19 - 21st
> * There is just enough space for a Xen Project Summit from Aug 19 - 21st
> * LinuxCon EU is most likely in Brussels end of September, but it is likely that there is not enough space
>
> I also want to move back to a model where we don’t have a separate user and developer summit. It is to expensive and too hard to organise. What we would do is have these semi-separate (e.g. User Summit before the Dev Summit) and we allow users to stay on and attend the Dev Summit using some discounted tickets if they want. The main rationale is to save cost and get maximum impact from sponsorships to subsidise the event(s).
>
> But we need to make a decision pretty soon. My thinking was the following:
> * Developer Summit on 20 & 21st
> * Developer Meeting, Board Meetings, Hackspace and Working Group would be held on the 19th.
> * We could also have a User Focussed Day on the 19th - the limitation is that on the 19th we cannot get rooms holding more than 60 people
> * Try to do something together with KVM Forum (E.g. a joint social event or something - assuming they buy into it and decide for Seattle, or a joint Hackathon)

That would be good!

> * The problem is that this would be a very intensive week and that some people may have to juggle schedules as they may have to attend several events.

That is OK as long as the sessions are video-taped and one can review them at ones leisure.

>
> On the other hand, there is likely not enough space to co-locate with LinuxCon EU. And we always also have a very big presence at FOSDEM in Brussels. So co-locating seems not quite right, as we are almost competing with ourselves in the same location that year.
>
> Please let me know what your preferences are. I can then get back to the Advisory Board and get this closed. And I need to know before the end of the month as otherwise we will run out of options.
>

> Best Regards
> Lars
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Re: [Xen-devel] Location of next Xen Project Developer Summit / User Summit (please respond by end of September) [ In reply to ]
>
>
>
> > But we need to make a decision pretty soon. My thinking was the
> following:
> > * Developer Summit on 20 & 21st
> > * Developer Meeting, Board Meetings, Hackspace and Working Group would
> be held on the 19th.
> > * We could also have a User Focussed Day on the 19th - the limitation is
> that on the 19th we cannot get rooms holding more than 60 people
> > * Try to do something together with KVM Forum (E.g. a joint social event
> or something - assuming they buy into it and decide for Seattle, or a joint
> Hackathon)
>

I like. Perhaps the Xen User Summit doesn't need a room holding more than
60 people?

Where is the LinuxCon going to be held in Seattle? Perhaps there's
something close we could use that would have a room large enough?

Grant McWilliams
Re: [Xen-devel] Location of next Xen Project Developer Summit / User Summit (please respond by end of September) [ In reply to ]
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 1:30 AM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am CC’ing all the subprojects (and project leads of sub projects who are not yet fully operational in terms of infrastructure) to get feedback on next years events. I know we all agreed that we would alternate between Europe and the US, but this may be challenging next year, because there may not be enough space. So I wanted to get your feed and will need to make a decision before the next Advisory Board meeting in October. Ideally well before.
>
> Let me lay out what I know.
> * LinuxCon US will be in Seattle Aug 17-19
> * Linux Plumbers will be in Seattle Aug 19, with mini summits Aug 20 & 21st
> * There will also be a new Container Con Aug 20 & 21st
> * KVM Forum is thinking but have not decided to be in Seattle also sometimes between Aug 19 - 21st
> * There is just enough space for a Xen Project Summit from Aug 19 - 21st
> * LinuxCon EU is most likely in Brussels end of September, but it is likely that there is not enough space
>
> I also want to move back to a model where we don’t have a separate user and developer summit. It is to expensive and too hard to organise. What we would do is have these semi-separate (e.g. User Summit before the Dev Summit) and we allow users to stay on and attend the Dev Summit using some discounted tickets if they want. The main rationale is to save cost and get maximum impact from sponsorships to subsidise the event(s).
>
> But we need to make a decision pretty soon. My thinking was the following:
> * Developer Summit on 20 & 21st
> * Developer Meeting, Board Meetings, Hackspace and Working Group would be held on the 19th.
> * We could also have a User Focussed Day on the 19th - the limitation is that on the 19th we cannot get rooms holding more than 60 people
> * Try to do something together with KVM Forum (E.g. a joint social event or something - assuming they buy into it and decide for Seattle, or a joint Hackathon)
> * The problem is that this would be a very intensive week and that some people may have to juggle schedules as they may have to attend several events.
>
> On the other hand, there is likely not enough space to co-locate with LinuxCon EU. And we always also have a very big presence at FOSDEM in Brussels. So co-locating seems not quite right, as we are almost competing with ourselves in the same location that year.
>
> Please let me know what your preferences are. I can then get back to the Advisory Board and get this closed. And I need to know before the end of the month as otherwise we will run out of options.

Your reasoning here sounds sensible to me.

-George

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Re: [Xen-devel] Location of next Xen Project Developer Summit / User Summit (please respond by end of September) [ In reply to ]
FOSDEM in Europe + LinuxCon US is a good combo for Xen :) (like it was in 2013)

So +1

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 12:15 PM, George Dunlap
<George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 1:30 AM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am CC’ing all the subprojects (and project leads of sub projects who are not yet fully operational in terms of infrastructure) to get feedback on next years events. I know we all agreed that we would alternate between Europe and the US, but this may be challenging next year, because there may not be enough space. So I wanted to get your feed and will need to make a decision before the next Advisory Board meeting in October. Ideally well before.
>>
>> Let me lay out what I know.
>> * LinuxCon US will be in Seattle Aug 17-19
>> * Linux Plumbers will be in Seattle Aug 19, with mini summits Aug 20 & 21st
>> * There will also be a new Container Con Aug 20 & 21st
>> * KVM Forum is thinking but have not decided to be in Seattle also sometimes between Aug 19 - 21st
>> * There is just enough space for a Xen Project Summit from Aug 19 - 21st
>> * LinuxCon EU is most likely in Brussels end of September, but it is likely that there is not enough space
>>
>> I also want to move back to a model where we don’t have a separate user and developer summit. It is to expensive and too hard to organise. What we would do is have these semi-separate (e.g. User Summit before the Dev Summit) and we allow users to stay on and attend the Dev Summit using some discounted tickets if they want. The main rationale is to save cost and get maximum impact from sponsorships to subsidise the event(s).
>>
>> But we need to make a decision pretty soon. My thinking was the following:
>> * Developer Summit on 20 & 21st
>> * Developer Meeting, Board Meetings, Hackspace and Working Group would be held on the 19th.
>> * We could also have a User Focussed Day on the 19th - the limitation is that on the 19th we cannot get rooms holding more than 60 people
>> * Try to do something together with KVM Forum (E.g. a joint social event or something - assuming they buy into it and decide for Seattle, or a joint Hackathon)
>> * The problem is that this would be a very intensive week and that some people may have to juggle schedules as they may have to attend several events.
>>
>> On the other hand, there is likely not enough space to co-locate with LinuxCon EU. And we always also have a very big presence at FOSDEM in Brussels. So co-locating seems not quite right, as we are almost competing with ourselves in the same location that year.
>>
>> Please let me know what your preferences are. I can then get back to the Advisory Board and get this closed. And I need to know before the end of the month as otherwise we will run out of options.
>
> Your reasoning here sounds sensible to me.
>
> -George
>
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Re: [Xen-devel] Location of next Xen Project Developer Summit / User Summit (please respond by end of September) [ In reply to ]
Seems that we all are generally in agreement. So I will get back to the Advisory board for funding.
Regards
Lars

On 21 Sep 2014, at 16:16, Grant McWilliams <grantmasterflash@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> > But we need to make a decision pretty soon. My thinking was the following:
> > * Developer Summit on 20 & 21st
> > * Developer Meeting, Board Meetings, Hackspace and Working Group would be held on the 19th.
> > * We could also have a User Focussed Day on the 19th - the limitation is that on the 19th we cannot get rooms holding more than 60 people
> > * Try to do something together with KVM Forum (E.g. a joint social event or something - assuming they buy into it and decide for Seattle, or a joint Hackathon)
>
> I like. Perhaps the Xen User Summit doesn't need a room holding more than 60 people?

Agreed.

>
> Where is the LinuxCon going to be held in Seattle? Perhaps there's something close we could use that would have a room large enough?

In one of the hotels or conference centres. Of course we could also consider an off-site location, but that tends to be more expensive.


On 22 Sep 2014, at 13:49, Olivier Lambert <lambert.olivier@gmail.com> wrote:

> FOSDEM in Europe + LinuxCon US is a good combo for Xen :) (like it was in 2013)
>
> So +1

Actually in 2013, we had FOSDEM in the EU and LinuxCon in the EU

Regards
Lars