Mailing List Archive: New server testing

New server testing

May 8, 2003, 2:43 PM

Post #1 of 11 (359 views)

Please don't publicize this URL to everyone, both because it will
go away and because the old server is still sharing the database
with it and I don't want it swamped, but:

http://larousse.wikipedia.org

Is running on the new server, talking to the database on pliny.
It would be nice if a few of you went there and did some testing
to make sure I didn't screw up anything major.

This is NOT a test database--it is talking to the real live
Wikipedia database, so don't "test" any pages you don't want
changed for real.

--
Lee Daniel Crocker <lee@piclab.com> <http://www.piclab.com/lee/>
"All inventions or works of authorship original to me, herein and past,
are placed irrevocably in the public domain, and may be used or modified
for any purpose, without permission, attribution, or notification."--LDC

Re: New server testing [ In reply to ]

vibber at aludra

May 8, 2003, 2:54 PM

Post #2 of 11 (357 views)

On Thu, 8 May 2003, Lee Daniel Crocker wrote:
> Is running on the new server, talking to the database on pliny.
> It would be nice if a few of you went there and did some testing
> to make sure I didn't screw up anything major.

http://larousse.wikipedia.org/en/wiki.phtml?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&action=edit
^^^^

Are we going to keep the evil secret subdirectory as /w/ for all wikis, as
before? There are an awful lot of URLs to old versions, contribs links,
etc that are written that way, and I'd hate to break them.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

Re: New server testing [ In reply to ]

vibber at aludra

May 8, 2003, 2:58 PM

Post #3 of 11 (358 views)

Well, something isn't right. When I make edits to [[Wikipedia:Sandbox]]
from larousse, the new revisions do get made, but they aren't making it
into the recentchanges table.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

Re: New server testing [ In reply to ]

May 8, 2003, 2:59 PM

Post #4 of 11 (356 views)

> (Brion Vibber <vibber@aludra.usc.edu>):
> On Thu, 8 May 2003, Lee Daniel Crocker wrote:
> > Is running on the new server, talking to the database on pliny.
> > It would be nice if a few of you went there and did some testing
> > to make sure I didn't screw up anything major.
>
> http://larousse.wikipedia.org/en/wiki.phtml?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&action=edit
> ^^^^
>
> Are we going to keep the evil secret subdirectory as /w/ for all wikis, as
> before? There are an awful lot of URLs to old versions, contribs links,
> etc that are written that way, and I'd hate to break them.

What, specifically, uses the "/w" URLs? I couldn't see that the old
system output them anywhwere. I have the new server laid out more
sensibly, with international ones in mind. All should use the
/wiki URL form in all cases.

--
Lee Daniel Crocker <lee@piclab.com> <http://www.piclab.com/lee/>
"All inventions or works of authorship original to me, herein and past,
are placed irrevocably in the public domain, and may be used or modified
for any purpose, without permission, attribution, or notification."--LDC

Re: New server testing [ In reply to ]

vibber at aludra

May 8, 2003, 2:59 PM

Post #5 of 11 (363 views)

Aha!

Larousse's time zone setting is on Pacific time, so it's inserting all the
wrong timestamps on everything. Ack...

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

On Thu, 8 May 2003, Brion Vibber wrote:

> Well, something isn't right. When I make edits to [[Wikipedia:Sandbox]]
> from larousse, the new revisions do get made, but they aren't making it
> into the recentchanges table.
>
> -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
>
>
>

Re: New server testing [ In reply to ]

vibber at aludra

May 8, 2003, 3:06 PM

Post #6 of 11 (359 views)

On Thu, 8 May 2003, Lee Daniel Crocker wrote:
> > Are we going to keep the evil secret subdirectory as /w/ for all wikis, as
> > before? There are an awful lot of URLs to old versions, contribs links,
> > etc that are written that way, and I'd hate to break them.
>
> What, specifically, uses the "/w" URLs? I couldn't see that the old
> system output them anywhwere.

* editing pages
* history
* printable
* old revisions
* diffs
* contribs
* login
* delete
* undelete
* watch
* unwatch
* changing number of displayed items / start point in many lists
* search

I'm sure I left some out.

> I have the new server laid out more
> sensibly, with international ones in mind. All should use the
> /wiki URL form in all cases.

Then we can't filter them out from crawlers in robots.txt.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

Re: New server testing [ In reply to ]

May 8, 2003, 3:14 PM

Post #7 of 11 (360 views)

> > > Are we going to keep the evil secret subdirectory as /w/ for all wikis, as
> > > before? There are an awful lot of URLs to old versions, contribs links,
> > > etc that are written that way, and I'd hate to break them.
> >
> > What, specifically, uses the "/w" URLs? I couldn't see that the old
> > system output them anywhwere.
>
> * editing pages
> * history
> ...

Yes, of course; I'd forgotten that we weren't redirecting those.
I put "/w/" back as an alias, so the old URLs still work. I'd like
to keep the new directory structure, though. Yes, robots might have
to be modified.

--
Lee Daniel Crocker <lee@piclab.com> <http://www.piclab.com/lee/>
"All inventions or works of authorship original to me, herein and past,
are placed irrevocably in the public domain, and may be used or modified
for any purpose, without permission, attribution, or notification."--LDC

Re: New server testing [ In reply to ]

vibber at aludra

May 8, 2003, 3:16 PM

Post #8 of 11 (358 views)

On Thu, 8 May 2003, Brion Vibber wrote:
> Aha!
>
> Larousse's time zone setting is on Pacific time, so it's inserting all the
> wrong timestamps on everything. Ack...

Okay, back to sweet sweet UTC. Looks okay now...

It also looks like NTP is working on larousse now:

# /usr/sbin/ntptrace
localhost.localdomain: stratum 3, offset 0.000028, synch distance 0.08755
zorac.sf-bay.org: stratum 2, offset 0.000571, synch distance 0.04897
clepsydra.dec.com: stratum 1, offset 0.001606, synch distance 0.00159, refid 'GPS'

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

Re: New server testing [ In reply to ]

May 8, 2003, 3:22 PM

Post #9 of 11 (361 views)

> Okay, back to sweet sweet UTC. Looks okay now...
> It also looks like NTP is working on larousse now:

Cool. Now that I think about it, you're right that my current
Apache directory structure on larousse won't work: it share
DocumentRoot among different wikis, so won't let you do separate
robots.txt, favicon, etc. I'll tweal it a bit.

--
Lee Daniel Crocker <lee@piclab.com> <http://www.piclab.com/lee/>
"All inventions or works of authorship original to me, herein and past,
are placed irrevocably in the public domain, and may be used or modified
for any purpose, without permission, attribution, or notification."--LDC

Re: New server testing [ In reply to ]

jwales at bomis

May 8, 2003, 4:57 PM

Post #10 of 11 (358 views)

I suppose it's to be expected, per your statements the other day,
that some images are broken?

Otherwise, it's sweet... *smoking* fast, but I guess almost no one
is on it. :-)

Lee Daniel Crocker wrote:

> Please don't publicize this URL to everyone, both because it will
> go away and because the old server is still sharing the database
> with it and I don't want it swamped, but:
>
> http://larousse.wikipedia.org
>
> Is running on the new server, talking to the database on pliny.
> It would be nice if a few of you went there and did some testing
> to make sure I didn't screw up anything major.
>
> This is NOT a test database--it is talking to the real live
> Wikipedia database, so don't "test" any pages you don't want
> changed for real.
>
> --
> Lee Daniel Crocker <lee@piclab.com> <http://www.piclab.com/lee/>
> "All inventions or works of authorship original to me, herein and past,
> are placed irrevocably in the public domain, and may be used or modified
> for any purpose, without permission, attribution, or notification."--LDC
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Re: New server testing [ In reply to ]

May 8, 2003, 5:18 PM

Post #11 of 11 (358 views)

> (Jimmy Wales <jwales@bomis.com>):
> I suppose it's to be expected, per your statements the other day,
> that some images are broken?

Oh, yeah; I disabled uploads, but I haven't copied the actual image
directories over. So /all/ images ought to be broken (except for the
logo).

> Otherwise, it's sweet... *smoking* fast, but I guess almost no one
> is on it. :-)

Yeah, that helps a lot.

--
Lee Daniel Crocker <lee@piclab.com> <http://www.piclab.com/lee/>
"All inventions or works of authorship original to me, herein and past,
are placed irrevocably in the public domain, and may be used or modified
for any purpose, without permission, attribution, or notification."--LDC