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SERIOUS HELP NEEDED NOW!
There is a very persisant vandal afoot that is jumping accounts and reverting
articles to older versions at an alarming rate. I can barely keep up by using
the rollback feature.

PLEASE somebody with godlike developer powers block this fuck. I've been at
this full time for over an hour -- There are many other things I would rather
be doing on Wikipedia.

A very frustrated mav

I think it is way past time that admins can view users' IPs. This is
ridiculous!

This VANDAL started with user:Annetit and has already created about a dozen
other accounts just to stay a step ahead of me rollbacking his edits (since
for each new user name on RC I have to review the edits before determining
they are vandalism or not -- which is damn difficult because the VANDAL is
often reverting to slightly older versions!)
Re: SERIOUS HELP NEEDED NOW! [ In reply to ]
What about don´t allow a user utilize more than one IP ??. And create an IP control review tool ??.

Only ideas, no programs.

Regards.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Mayer" <maveric149@yahoo.com>
To: <wikien-l@wikipedia.org>
Cc: <wikitech-l@wikipedia.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 10:31 AM
Subject: [Wikitech-l] SERIOUS HELP NEEDED NOW!


> There is a very persisant vandal afoot that is jumping accounts and reverting
> articles to older versions at an alarming rate. I can barely keep up by using
> the rollback feature.
>
> PLEASE somebody with godlike developer powers block this fuck. I've been at
> this full time for over an hour -- There are many other things I would rather
> be doing on Wikipedia.
>
> A very frustrated mav
>
> I think it is way past time that admins can view users' IPs. This is
> ridiculous!
>
> This VANDAL started with user:Annetit and has already created about a dozen
> other accounts just to stay a step ahead of me rollbacking his edits (since
> for each new user name on RC I have to review the edits before determining
> they are vandalism or not -- which is damn difficult because the VANDAL is
> often reverting to slightly older versions!)
Re: SERIOUS HELP NEEDED NOW! [ In reply to ]
--- "Pedro M.V." <macv@interlap.com.ar> wrote:
> What about don´t allow a user utilize more than one
> IP ??. And create an IP control review tool ??.
>
> Only ideas, no programs.
>
> Regards.

From what I understood, the pb was not one user using
several ips, but several users using an undetermine
number of ips...so this wouldnot solve anything

Besides, from my memories of phase I (where Ips were
not directly displayed), about 9 users over 10 on our
wiki were on the DSL, so not using a fixed ips but a
range of ips automatically allocated by our provider.

What do you mean by an Ip control review tool ?

regards

Anthere

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Re: SERIOUS HELP NEEDED NOW! [ In reply to ]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthere" <anthere5@yahoo.com>
To: <wikitech-l@wikipedia.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] SERIOUS HELP NEEDED NOW!



--- "Pedro M.V." <macv@interlap.com.ar> wrote:

From what I understood, the pb was not one user using
several ips, but several users using an undetermine
number of ips...

Perhaps, more visited articles would need recieve more protection. I don´t know how. Perhaps, one day delay when edited to see the aditions in the body of the article ( upto them, one can see in a special part of the page in a different colour ).

This only would work for the most important and visited articles.
Re: SERIOUS HELP NEEDED NOW! [ In reply to ]
On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 14:36:20 +0100, Pedro M.V.
<macv=5S5SrBBoGx2H0oMTQjrRWA@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> What about don´t allow a user utilize more than one IP ??. And create an
> IP control review tool ??.
>

Not possible - that's not the way IP addresses work.

If I am on dial-up, every time I connect I am assigned a different IP from
the pool of IP's owned by my ISP. My ISP has about 200,000 customers, so
it's likely they have a block of around 64,000 IP addresses.
In actual fact, I'm on DSL. My router "leases" an IP by the hour. It
usually gets the same one back, but if it disconnects, (which it sometimes
does if I answer the phone) it usually reconnects to a different IP
address.

For the same reason you cannot block an IP address to stop a vandal who is
not logged in. And banning an ISP's entire IP block prevents their entire
customer pase from contributing to Wikipedia.

--
Richard Grevers