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[Fwd: [Fwd: Board meeting in Egypt]]
Hello,

FYI

Ant

PS: could someone add me to the white list of the wikimania planning list ?


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Fwd: Board meeting in Egypt]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:37:38 +0200
From: Florence Devouard <anthere@anthere.org>
Reply-To: anthere@anthere.org
To: wikimania-planning-l@lists.wikimedia.org



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Board meeting in Egypt
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:55:42 +0200
From: Florence Devouard <anthere@anthere.org>
Reply-To: anthere@anthere.org
To: wikimania-planning-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Hello,

Following previous discussions on the board list and on the wikimania
irc channel, I would like to confirm that the board of WMF will hold a
meeting on the 16th of july (ie, day immediately before Wikimania).
Participants to that meeting will be
* current board members
* newly elected members
* ED
* (plus any person as necessary...).

Best

Ant



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Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: Board meeting in Egypt]] [ In reply to ]
You realise this clashes with the advisory board meeting? That was set
for the 15th and 16th more than 2 months ago.

Angela

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Florence Devouard <anthere@anthere.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> FYI
>
> Ant
>
> PS: could someone add me to the white list of the wikimania planning list ?
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [Fwd: Board meeting in Egypt]
> Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:37:38 +0200
> From: Florence Devouard <anthere@anthere.org>
> Reply-To: anthere@anthere.org
> To: wikimania-planning-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Board meeting in Egypt
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:55:42 +0200
> From: Florence Devouard <anthere@anthere.org>
> Reply-To: anthere@anthere.org
> To: wikimania-planning-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>
> Hello,
>
> Following previous discussions on the board list and on the wikimania
> irc channel, I would like to confirm that the board of WMF will hold a
> meeting on the 16th of july (ie, day immediately before Wikimania).
> Participants to that meeting will be
> * current board members
> * newly elected members
> * ED
> * (plus any person as necessary...).
>
> Best
>
> Ant
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
>

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Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: Board meeting in Egypt]] [ In reply to ]
Hello,

This is embarassing...

I have only a vague memory that this meeting would occur. I remember it
was discussed but I do not remember we were officially informed it would
occur. So, I thought it would not.

I just went to look at
http://advisory.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meeting_July_2008, and see that Pat
Hughes has been retained for the meeting. Was a budget approved on this
? Is the budget planned for one day or two days ? (15 or 16 ? or both ?)

We need to hold a board meeting and it can not happen after wikimania
largely because Jimmy will not be available. I also do not want it to
happen during Wikimania, as it will be at the expense of the time we can
share with the community and will be necessarily a tiny short time.
Wikimania is already such a crowded agenda for board members that it
would not be fair to do that. So, there is only the days before which
are left free.

What are the options ?

Ant

Angela wrote:
> You realise this clashes with the advisory board meeting? That was set
> for the 15th and 16th more than 2 months ago.
>
> Angela
>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Florence Devouard <anthere@anthere.org> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> FYI
>>
>> Ant
>>
>> PS: could someone add me to the white list of the wikimania planning list ?
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: [Fwd: Board meeting in Egypt]
>> Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:37:38 +0200
>> From: Florence Devouard <anthere@anthere.org>
>> Reply-To: anthere@anthere.org
>> To: wikimania-planning-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Board meeting in Egypt
>> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:55:42 +0200
>> From: Florence Devouard <anthere@anthere.org>
>> Reply-To: anthere@anthere.org
>> To: wikimania-planning-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Following previous discussions on the board list and on the wikimania
>> irc channel, I would like to confirm that the board of WMF will hold a
>> meeting on the 16th of july (ie, day immediately before Wikimania).
>> Participants to that meeting will be
>> * current board members
>> * newly elected members
>> * ED
>> * (plus any person as necessary...).
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Ant
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wikimania-l mailing list
>> Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
>>
>
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Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: Board meeting in Egypt]] [ In reply to ]
I don't know how AB's meetings go generally. If it is a meeting of only AB,
then they could be at the same time probably, as there is no overlap in
members. I don't know either how long a Board Meeting should take this time
(don't know about agenda etc), which will also be of influence.

Best regards,

Lodewijk

2008/4/20, Florence Devouard <fdevouard@wikimedia.org>:
>
> Hello,
>
> This is embarassing...
>
> I have only a vague memory that this meeting would occur. I remember it
> was discussed but I do not remember we were officially informed it would
> occur. So, I thought it would not.
>
> I just went to look at
> http://advisory.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meeting_July_2008, and see that Pat
> Hughes has been retained for the meeting. Was a budget approved on this
> ? Is the budget planned for one day or two days ? (15 or 16 ? or both ?)
>
> We need to hold a board meeting and it can not happen after wikimania
> largely because Jimmy will not be available. I also do not want it to
> happen during Wikimania, as it will be at the expense of the time we can
> share with the community and will be necessarily a tiny short time.
> Wikimania is already such a crowded agenda for board members that it
> would not be fair to do that. So, there is only the days before which
> are left free.
>
> What are the options ?
>
> Ant
>
>
> Angela wrote:
> > You realise this clashes with the advisory board meeting? That was set
> > for the 15th and 16th more than 2 months ago.
> >
> > Angela
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Florence Devouard <anthere@anthere.org>
> wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> FYI
> >>
> >> Ant
> >>
> >> PS: could someone add me to the white list of the wikimania planning
> list ?
> >>
> >>
> >> -------- Original Message --------
> >> Subject: [Fwd: Board meeting in Egypt]
> >> Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:37:38 +0200
> >> From: Florence Devouard <anthere@anthere.org>
> >> Reply-To: anthere@anthere.org
> >> To: wikimania-planning-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -------- Original Message --------
> >> Subject: Board meeting in Egypt
> >> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:55:42 +0200
> >> From: Florence Devouard <anthere@anthere.org>
> >> Reply-To: anthere@anthere.org
> >> To: wikimania-planning-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Following previous discussions on the board list and on the wikimania
> >> irc channel, I would like to confirm that the board of WMF will hold a
> >> meeting on the 16th of july (ie, day immediately before Wikimania).
> >> Participants to that meeting will be
> >> * current board members
> >> * newly elected members
> >> * ED
> >> * (plus any person as necessary...).
> >>
> >> Best
> >>
> >> Ant
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Wikimania-l mailing list
> >> Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Wikimania-l mailing list
> > Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wikimania-l mailing list
> Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
>
Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: Board meeting in Egypt]] [ In reply to ]
Hoi,
It seems to me that it is exactly the advisory board and the board together
that are to make headway on issues advise is needed on. Having the advisory
board on its own talking among themselves is largely a waste of time and
money.
Thanks,
GerardM

On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 1:19 PM, effe iets anders <effeietsanders@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I don't know how AB's meetings go generally. If it is a meeting of only
> AB, then they could be at the same time probably, as there is no overlap in
> members. I don't know either how long a Board Meeting should take this time
> (don't know about agenda etc), which will also be of influence.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Lodewijk
>
> 2008/4/20, Florence Devouard <fdevouard@wikimedia.org>:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > This is embarassing...
> >
> > I have only a vague memory that this meeting would occur. I remember it
> > was discussed but I do not remember we were officially informed it would
> > occur. So, I thought it would not.
> >
> > I just went to look at
> > http://advisory.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meeting_July_2008, and see that Pat
> > Hughes has been retained for the meeting. Was a budget approved on this
> > ? Is the budget planned for one day or two days ? (15 or 16 ? or both ?)
> >
> > We need to hold a board meeting and it can not happen after wikimania
> > largely because Jimmy will not be available. I also do not want it to
> > happen during Wikimania, as it will be at the expense of the time we can
> > share with the community and will be necessarily a tiny short time.
> > Wikimania is already such a crowded agenda for board members that it
> > would not be fair to do that. So, there is only the days before which
> > are left free.
> >
> > What are the options ?
> >
> > Ant
> >
> >
> > Angela wrote:
> > > You realise this clashes with the advisory board meeting? That was set
> > > for the 15th and 16th more than 2 months ago.
> > >
> > > Angela
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Florence Devouard <
> > anthere@anthere.org> wrote:
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> FYI
> > >>
> > >> Ant
> > >>
> > >> PS: could someone add me to the white list of the wikimania planning
> > list ?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -------- Original Message --------
> > >> Subject: [Fwd: Board meeting in Egypt]
> > >> Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:37:38 +0200
> > >> From: Florence Devouard <anthere@anthere.org>
> > >> Reply-To: anthere@anthere.org
> > >> To: wikimania-planning-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -------- Original Message --------
> > >> Subject: Board meeting in Egypt
> > >> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:55:42 +0200
> > >> From: Florence Devouard <anthere@anthere.org>
> > >> Reply-To: anthere@anthere.org
> > >> To: wikimania-planning-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > >>
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> Following previous discussions on the board list and on the
> > wikimania
> > >> irc channel, I would like to confirm that the board of WMF will hold
> > a
> > >> meeting on the 16th of july (ie, day immediately before Wikimania).
> > >> Participants to that meeting will be
> > >> * current board members
> > >> * newly elected members
> > >> * ED
> > >> * (plus any person as necessary...).
> > >>
> > >> Best
> > >>
> > >> Ant
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Wikimania-l mailing list
> > >> Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
> > >>
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Wikimania-l mailing list
> > > Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Wikimania-l mailing list
> > Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
> >
>
>
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>
Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: Board meeting in Egypt]] [ In reply to ]
> I just went to look at
> http://advisory.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meeting_July_2008, and see that Pat
> Hughes has been retained for the meeting. Was a budget approved on this
> ? Is the budget planned for one day or two days ? (15 or 16 ? or both ?)

The budget is 2 days. Sue suggested Pat and that is part of the
budget. Achal is working on finding external funding so that we
wouldn't need to use any of the budget for travel costs. Also,
advisory board members will try to fund their own travel as they did
last year.

The plan was for meetings to last 2 days. I doubt 1 would be enough,
but 1 and a half could be. Since all the Board of Trustee members
would be at this, could the board meeting be held on the 14th? Having
it the other way round wouldn't make sense since there's no need for
AB members to be there an extra day. Alternatively, is half a day
enough for the Board of Trustees meeting? If so, that could still
happen the 16th, or we could have part of the AB meeting with the
Board of Trustees present.

When are all the chapter meetings planned? Are those also likely to
clash with this?

Angela

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Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: Board meeting in Egypt]] [ In reply to ]
What is the agenda of the advisory board meeting ? Has it been drafted yet ?

Ant

Angela wrote:
>> I just went to look at
>> http://advisory.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meeting_July_2008, and see that Pat
>> Hughes has been retained for the meeting. Was a budget approved on this
>> ? Is the budget planned for one day or two days ? (15 or 16 ? or both ?)
>
> The budget is 2 days. Sue suggested Pat and that is part of the
> budget. Achal is working on finding external funding so that we
> wouldn't need to use any of the budget for travel costs. Also,
> advisory board members will try to fund their own travel as they did
> last year.
>
> The plan was for meetings to last 2 days. I doubt 1 would be enough,
> but 1 and a half could be. Since all the Board of Trustee members
> would be at this, could the board meeting be held on the 14th? Having
> it the other way round wouldn't make sense since there's no need for
> AB members to be there an extra day. Alternatively, is half a day
> enough for the Board of Trustees meeting? If so, that could still
> happen the 16th, or we could have part of the AB meeting with the
> Board of Trustees present.
>
> When are all the chapter meetings planned? Are those also likely to
> clash with this?
>
> Angela
>


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Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: Board meeting in Egypt]] [ In reply to ]
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Florence Devouard <anthere@anthere.org> wrote:
> What is the agenda of the advisory board meeting ? Has it been drafted yet ?

No, and I also haven't spoken to Pat in any detail yet about what to
plan for, so it's very open to change.

Angela

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