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Hsiang-Tai Chien wrote:

>Hi,
>
>The registration site for Wikimania 2007 is going to be setup soon and we need some help on translating the registration form. If you are willing to help, please help us in the following link:
>
>The registration form in English:
>http://wikimania2007.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania:Translation/Registration_form
>
I have looked at the form, and I think that some people would find it
objectionable to include Passport numbers at this stage of proceedings.
Others, who do not travel frequently, may not yet have a passport.

Is the third option, "Other", really meaningful when responding to sex? :-)

Ec

On 15/02/07, Ray Saintonge <saintonge at telus.net> wrote:
> Hsiang-Tai Chien wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >The registration site for Wikimania 2007 is going to be setup soon and we need some help on translating the registration form. If you are willing to help, please help us in the following link:
> >
> >The registration form in English:
> >http://wikimania2007.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania:Translation/Registration_form
> >
> I have looked at the form, and I think that some people would find it
> objectionable to include Passport numbers at this stage of proceedings.
> Others, who do not travel frequently, may not yet have a passport.
>
> Is the third option, "Other", really meaningful when responding to sex? :-)
>
> Ec

hehe, I laught on the "other" at sex. I don't know if it had been made
on a comic purpose, but at least I think it's funny ^_^

For the passport purpose, I do agree. I do have one but for the moment
I'm not sure mine will be ok, I do think I'll have to make a new one,
and in france it takes around 3weeks, some time more.

Perhaps it should be good to accept National ID for the registration,
and the foreigners will have to send the passport number to the Team.
Passport will be needed to come to Taiwan, so if they give the ID
number and pay, it should be enough for the registration. Unless it's
absolutly needed for insurance of stuff like this.

If the passport is absolutly needed, just let us know so we can warn
the community.



--
schiste

Hi,

> From christophe.henner at wikimedia.fr:
>
> On 15/02/07, Ray Saintonge <saintonge at telus.net> wrote:
> >
> > I have looked at the form, and I think that some people
> would find it
> > objectionable to include Passport numbers at this stage of
> proceedings.
> > Others, who do not travel frequently, may not yet have a passport.
> >
> > Is the third option, "Other", really meaningful when responding to
> > sex? :-)
> >
> > Ec
>
> hehe, I laught on the "other" at sex. I don't know if it had
> been made on a comic purpose, but at least I think it's funny ^_^

We list the "other" option because we think maybe some people might want to
use it. For example, [[Transgender]].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender

> For the passport purpose, I do agree. I do have one but for
> the moment I'm not sure mine will be ok, I do think I'll have
> to make a new one, and in france it takes around 3weeks, some
> time more.
>
> Perhaps it should be good to accept National ID for the
> registration, and the foreigners will have to send the
> passport number to the Team.
> Passport will be needed to come to Taiwan, so if they give
> the ID number and pay, it should be enough for the
> registration. Unless it's absolutly needed for insurance of
> stuff like this.
>
> If the passport is absolutly needed, just let us know so we
> can warn the community.
>
> --
> schiste

The passport number and the National ID will be used for insurance purpose,
and we will not leak your personal information to any other third parties.

Regards,
--
Hsiang-Tai Chien (H.T.)
International Contact
Wikimania Taipei Team

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On 2/16/07, Hsiang-Tai Chien <htchien1225 at yahoo.com.tw> wrote:
> Hi,
> The passport number and the National ID will be used for insurance purpose,
> and we will not leak your personal information to any other third parties.

I expect no one suppose the possiblity you mentioned, but your
statement made me have another question;
our insurance company is okay only our IDs, I mean IDs without the
expired dates?

--
KIZU Naoko
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* habent enim emolumentum in labore suo *

Hi,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aphaia
>
> On 2/16/07, Hsiang-Tai Chien <htchien1225 at yahoo.com.tw> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > The passport number and the National ID will be used for insurance
> > purpose, and we will not leak your personal information to
> any other third parties.
>
> I expect no one suppose the possiblity you mentioned, but
> your statement made me have another question; our insurance
> company is okay only our IDs, I mean IDs without the expired dates?

I will check with our insurance people and let you know the answer.

Regards,
H.T.



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Hsiang-Tai Chien wrote:

>>For the passport purpose, I do agree. I do have one but for
>>the moment I'm not sure mine will be ok, I do think I'll have
>>to make a new one, and in france it takes around 3weeks, some
>>time more.
>>
>>Perhaps it should be good to accept National ID for the
>>registration, and the foreigners will have to send the
>>passport number to the Team.
>>Passport will be needed to come to Taiwan, so if they give
>>the ID number and pay, it should be enough for the
>>registration. Unless it's absolutly needed for insurance of
>>stuff like this.
>>
>>If the passport is absolutly needed, just let us know so we
>>can warn the community.
>>
>>--
>>schiste
>>
>>
>
>The passport number and the National ID will be used for insurance purpose,
>and we will not leak your personal information to any other third parties.
>
>Regards,
>
What does my passport number have to do with your insurance? If you
insist on having the number on line I can always invent a number.

Ec

Hi,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ray Saintonge
>
> Hsiang-Tai Chien wrote:
>
> >The passport number and the National ID will be used for insurance
> >purpose, and we will not leak your personal information to
> any other third parties.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> What does my passport number have to do with your insurance?
> If you insist on having the number on line I can always
> invent a number.
>
> Ec

It's the insurance for wikimedians who want to join Wikimania when he/she is
in Taipei. Of cause you can use a fake / invented number but you will not
get the insurance from the insurance company if there is something
unexpected happen when you are in Taipei.

We will apply the travel insurance for every wikimedian or anyone who
registered to join Wikimania. And the passport / National ID is the
requirement from the insurance company in Taiwan (maybe in other countries /
regions also?)

Travel Insurance (information only, the actual insurance content might be
offered differently from our insurance company):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travel_insurance

I will ask the Taipei team to see if we can put more details on the
insurance on the Wikimania site.

Hope this helps.

H.T.



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Hi,

Some people might already have their own travel insurence. (In NL it is not
very extrordinary to have an travel insurence for the whole year, as soon as
you go on vacation to abroad Europe, that is already cheaper then two weeks
temp. insurence). I don't know how that is in other countries, but might
that reduce some costs for you? (Maybe would a reduction in the application
be possible?)

Lodewijk

2007/2/17, Hsiang-Tai Chien <htchien1225 at yahoo.com.tw>:
>
> Hi,
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ray Saintonge
> >
> > Hsiang-Tai Chien wrote:
> >
> > >The passport number and the National ID will be used for insurance
> > >purpose, and we will not leak your personal information to
> > any other third parties.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >
> > What does my passport number have to do with your insurance?
> > If you insist on having the number on line I can always
> > invent a number.
> >
> > Ec
>
> It's the insurance for wikimedians who want to join Wikimania when he/she
> is
> in Taipei. Of cause you can use a fake / invented number but you will not
> get the insurance from the insurance company if there is something
> unexpected happen when you are in Taipei.
>
> We will apply the travel insurance for every wikimedian or anyone who
> registered to join Wikimania. And the passport / National ID is the
> requirement from the insurance company in Taiwan (maybe in other countries
> /
> regions also?)
>
> Travel Insurance (information only, the actual insurance content might be
> offered differently from our insurance company):
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travel_insurance
>
> I will ask the Taipei team to see if we can put more details on the
> insurance on the Wikimania site.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> H.T.
>
>
>
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Hi,

I think it's both for insurance during the event (attention: NOT travel
insurance) and verifying attendees is the real one who paid and registered.
I am calling my friend who works for an insurance company to see if the
passport number is necessary for insurance or not.

THD

2007/2/17, effe iets anders < effeietsanders at gmail.com>:
>
> Hi,
>
> Some people might already have their own travel insurence. (In NL it is
> not very extrordinary to have an travel insurence for the whole year, as
> soon as you go on vacation to abroad Europe, that is already cheaper then
> two weeks temp. insurence). I don't know how that is in other countries, but
> might that reduce some costs for you? (Maybe would a reduction in the
> application be possible?)
>
> Lodewijk
>
> 2007/2/17, Hsiang-Tai Chien <htchien1225 at yahoo.com.tw >:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ray Saintonge
> > >
> > > Hsiang-Tai Chien wrote:
> > >
> > > >The passport number and the National ID will be used for insurance
> > > >purpose, and we will not leak your personal information to
> > > any other third parties.
> > > >
> > > >Regards,
> > > >
> > > What does my passport number have to do with your insurance?
> > > If you insist on having the number on line I can always
> > > invent a number.
> > >
> > > Ec
> >
> > It's the insurance for wikimedians who want to join Wikimania when
> > he/she is
> > in Taipei. Of cause you can use a fake / invented number but you will
> > not
> > get the insurance from the insurance company if there is something
> > unexpected happen when you are in Taipei.
> >
> > We will apply the travel insurance for every wikimedian or anyone who
> > registered to join Wikimania. And the passport / National ID is the
> > requirement from the insurance company in Taiwan (maybe in other
> > countries /
> > regions also?)
> >
> > Travel Insurance (information only, the actual insurance content might
> > be
> > offered differently from our insurance company):
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travel_insurance
> >
> > I will ask the Taipei team to see if we can put more details on the
> > insurance on the Wikimania site.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > H.T.
> >
> >
> >
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Hi,
Similarly to what Effe says, travel insurance can be bought here in
Canada on an annual basis as a part of one's homeowner's insurance. This
would cover emergency medical expenses in excess of what is normally
covered by the usual government medical insurance plan.

The idea that the person for whom payment is made is not the person that
attends strikes me as strange. While I can see this as vaguely possible
for a Taiwanese person who would not need to travel far, it makes no
sense at all for a person making the travel expense to travel half-way
around the world. If at the last moment I am so sick that I cannot
travel, what would be so wrong about asking my son to take my place?

Ec

THD wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I think it's both for insurance during the event (attention: NOT travel
> insurance) and verifying attendees is the real one who paid and
> registered.
> I am calling my friend who works for an insurance company to see if the
> passport number is necessary for insurance or not.
>
> THD
>
> 2007/2/17, effe iets anders < effeietsanders at gmail.com>:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Some people might already have their own travel insurence. (In NL it is
>> not very extrordinary to have an travel insurence for the whole year, as
>> soon as you go on vacation to abroad Europe, that is already cheaper
>> then
>> two weeks temp. insurence). I don't know how that is in other
>> countries, but
>> might that reduce some costs for you? (Maybe would a reduction in the
>> application be possible?)
>>
>> Lodewijk
>>
>> 2007/2/17, Hsiang-Tai Chien <htchien1225 at yahoo.com.tw >:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Ray Saintonge
>> > >
>> > > Hsiang-Tai Chien wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >The passport number and the National ID will be used for insurance
>> > > >purpose, and we will not leak your personal information to
>> > > any other third parties.
>> > > >
>> > > >Regards,
>> > > >
>> > > What does my passport number have to do with your insurance?
>> > > If you insist on having the number on line I can always
>> > > invent a number.
>> > >
>> > > Ec
>> >
>> > It's the insurance for wikimedians who want to join Wikimania when
>> > he/she is
>> > in Taipei. Of cause you can use a fake / invented number but you will
>> > not
>> > get the insurance from the insurance company if there is something
>> > unexpected happen when you are in Taipei.
>> >
>> > We will apply the travel insurance for every wikimedian or anyone who
>> > registered to join Wikimania. And the passport / National ID is the
>> > requirement from the insurance company in Taiwan (maybe in other
>> > countries / regions also?)
>> >
>> > Travel Insurance (information only, the actual insurance content might
>> > be offered differently from our insurance company):
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travel_insurance
>> >
>> > I will ask the Taipei team to see if we can put more details on the
>> > insurance on the Wikimania site.
>> >
>> > Hope this helps.
>> >
>> > H.T.
>