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Hi, Jakob,

Sorry for late reply.

We are still doing our budget. As when we bid for hosting Wikimania 2007, we
have found some sponsorship to cover the meals and accommodation, the
accommodation cost is just for avoiding waste.

Generally in Taipei, the room rate in an ordinary hotel is between NTD 2500
to NTD 4000 (USD75-120) per night, and Wikimania accommodation cost will be
under $20 per night. We will announce the rate in detail when the
registration is open.

We have ordered the CTOYAC rooms from Aug.1 to Aug. 5, which means everybody
has to check out on Aug. 6. After the Wikimania, there will be other
activities held in CTOYAC, so it is nearly impossible to order more days. We
will try to get more other hotel information for those who want to stay
longer.

And I have to say sorry again, the original registration manager left the
preparation team. That's why we responded lately. We are trying to find an
appropriate person to take charge of this super important matter, and of
course as soon as possible. The registration system and website are still
ongoing, so don't worry for us. Littlebtc and Alex are still here. :D

Sincerely yours,

THD

2007/2/6, Jakob Voss <jakob.voss at nichtich.de>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> As I was not able to figure out who is responsible for what at Wikimania
> 2007 planning and my last request did not achieve to get to the last
> Wikimania Taipai Team meeting I would like to repeat my question:
>
> 1. What will accomodation cost at Wikimania 2007 location (CTOYAC)?
>
> 2. How many days you can stay? Can you come earlier and stay longer if
> you want?
>
> Please add the answer at
> http://wikimania2007.wikimedia.org/wiki/Venue
>
> And update the misleading list
> http://wikimania2007.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Team_and_Volunteers
>
> Greetings,
> Jakob
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Hi THD,

I really hope you can find either before either after the wikimania at least
a few days chep accomodation, as usually ticktets are cheaper when you stay
at leas a week. And of course it would be the easiest to be able to stay in
the same room that time, as moving is always asking time yu'd like to spend
on other things, such as looking around on taiwan :)

Lodewijk

2007/2/6, THD <theodoranian at gmail.com>:
>
> Hi, Jakob,
>
> Sorry for late reply.
>
> We are still doing our budget. As when we bid for hosting Wikimania 2007,
> we have found some sponsorship to cover the meals and accommodation, the
> accommodation cost is just for avoiding waste.
>
> Generally in Taipei, the room rate in an ordinary hotel is between NTD
> 2500 to NTD 4000 (USD75-120) per night, and Wikimania accommodation cost
> will be under $20 per night. We will announce the rate in detail when the
> registration is open.
>
> We have ordered the CTOYAC rooms from Aug.1 to Aug. 5, which means
> everybody has to check out on Aug. 6. After the Wikimania, there will be
> other activities held in CTOYAC, so it is nearly impossible to order more
> days. We will try to get more other hotel information for those who want to
> stay longer.
>
> And I have to say sorry again, the original registration manager left the
> preparation team. That's why we responded lately. We are trying to find an
> appropriate person to take charge of this super important matter, and of
> course as soon as possible. The registration system and website are still
> ongoing, so don't worry for us. Littlebtc and Alex are still here. :D
>
> Sincerely yours,
>
> THD
>
> 2007/2/6, Jakob Voss <jakob.voss at nichtich.de>:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > As I was not able to figure out who is responsible for what at Wikimania
> > 2007 planning and my last request did not achieve to get to the last
> > Wikimania Taipai Team meeting I would like to repeat my question:
> >
> > 1. What will accomodation cost at Wikimania 2007 location (CTOYAC)?
> >
> > 2. How many days you can stay? Can you come earlier and stay longer if
> > you want?
> >
> > Please add the answer at
> > http://wikimania2007.wikimedia.org/wiki/Venue
> >
> > And update the misleading list
> > http://wikimania2007.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Team_and_Volunteers
> >
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Jakob
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Wikimania-l mailing list
> > Wikimania-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Wikimania-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
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Regarding accomodations....

I think it would be a good idea that the board organise a board meeting
either immediately before or immediately after Wikimania. This may be a
meeting with some invited non-board members.

I would like to know who is exactly in charge of accomodation, so that
we can see what are the accomodation possibilities in the days before or
after Wikimania.

Thanks

Ant

On 2/10/07, Florence Devouard <anthere at anthere.org> wrote:
> I think it would be a good idea that the board organise a board meeting
> either immediately before or immediately after Wikimania. This may be a
> meeting with some invited non-board members.

Also some committees, chapters ... In Boston due to heavy schedule
Comcom gave up to hold its own meeting, though almost more than half
were there. It was a pity indeed.

Btw I heard there was a plan of organisational workshop along
HackingDays. How does it go along? It vanished?

--
KIZU Naoko
Wikiquote: http://wikiquote.org
* habent enim emolumentum in labore suo *

Hi, Anthere,

Daucter just agreed to be responsible for the registration (including
accommodation), and he will answer the question about the accommodation of
board meeting.
Originally he is only responsible for the venue things, and we lost
communication with the original registration coordinator.
Thanks for your patience.

THD

2007/2/10, Florence Devouard <anthere at anthere.org>:
>
> Regarding accomodations....
>
> I think it would be a good idea that the board organise a board meeting
> either immediately before or immediately after Wikimania. This may be a
> meeting with some invited non-board members.
>
> I would like to know who is exactly in charge of accomodation, so that
> we can see what are the accomodation possibilities in the days before or
> after Wikimania.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ant
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wikimania-l mailing list
> Wikimania-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
>
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Dear Anthere:

I'm DAUCTER, and just take resposible for the registration and the
accomadaiton for Wikimina 2007.

If the board wanted to have a meeting before or after Wikiminia, please just
let us know the further dertails. And we would like to arrange for the board
meeting.
Let me remind you, because the summer vocation, Chien Tan Overseas Youth
(CTOY) will become popular during this time. It may need to registrate for
the accommodations earlier. And I'll ask CTOY when is deadline to confirm
the accommodation.

So, if the board make the decision as earlier as you can, it's much easy to
arrange everything. Even if CTOY didn't have the rooms or conference room,
we can also arange the other places for the board.

I will look forward to the accommodation for you, but please do not hesitate
to contact me or the tean, should you require any further information.

DAUCTER
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Aphaia wrote:

>On 2/10/07, Florence Devouard <anthere at anthere.org> wrote:
>
>
>>I think it would be a good idea that the board organise a board meeting
>>either immediately before or immediately after Wikimania. This may be a
>>meeting with some invited non-board members.
>>
>>
>Also some committees, chapters ... In Boston due to heavy schedule
>Comcom gave up to hold its own meeting, though almost more than half
>were there. It was a pity indeed.
>
>Btw I heard there was a plan of organisational workshop along
>HackingDays. How does it go along? It vanished?
>
There was certainly a lot of discussion about this in the informal
gatherings after Wikimania Boston. Some people did remark that a large
proportion of those attending Wikimania were not Wikipedians themselves,
and that they would enjoy at least one day of
brainstorming/problem-solving open only to active Wikipedians. Unlike
Hacking Days this would focus on non-technical issues. I don't know if
it could happen at the same time; that depends on how many people would
want to attend both.

An expanded Board meeting would probably fit in best after Wikimania
when attendees could wrap together the ideas that they have picked up at
Wikimania itself as well as whatever other meetings are organized.

The effect of this on accomodations is that some will be needed both
before and after Wikimania. Some people may want to arrive a day
earlier to adjust to jetlag, or could have their travel affected by the
timing of airline connections. Since Taiwan is an island the latter may
be more of a factor than it was in the last two years. I don't expect
that we would have the same bargain accomodations for these extensions
as there are for the main part of Wikimania, but if enough people want
to stay longer perhaps block rates are available.

Ec

I'm working in the catering industry, so let me give you a
"professionnal" point of view, if you want a more precise one I'll
need more informations (as how much tourists are heading to Taipei in
August :) )

First of all, in order to have block rates you will need to have a
good idea on how many nights, for how many personn you will need. The
more accurate the estimations are, the easier it is to talk about
price.

You will have to set before few things as: single or two bedded rooms,
including/excluding breakfasts.

An other thing is giving a guarantee.
Let me explain, on individual reservations it is asked to have
CreditCard number/society fax/ Pre paiement to make the booking,
sometimes they accept booking without guarantee but with a 6pm
deadline (wich would be a problem in our case). For groups bookings
they ask for a guarantee, without any gurantee they will, normally,
not make the booking. Moreover if you want to talk about having
special rates Otherwise having special rates will be harder.

But you can propose them something else, than a guarantee, something
they could like.

Ask for a "block booking". It's slightly different from a group booking.
As soon as you have a good estimation about how many night/room you
would need, call hotels to talk about the rates and tell them each
participant will make his own booking on the block booking. So they
will ask individual guarantees to each participant. The only thing
with block booking is they will put a deadline, something like 1month
or 15days before check-in they won't accept any new reservations on
the block booking.


I don't speak chinese, but if you want I can call/mail some hotels,
and talk rates with them.



--
schiste

Dear Daucter,

Thanks for the answer.

I'll discuss the issue of the board meeting in the next few days with
the board and staff and will come back to you on this.

Thanks a lot

Anthere

daucter wrote:

> Dear Anthere:
>
> I'm DAUCTER, and just take resposible for the registration and the
> accomadaiton for Wikimina 2007.
>
> If the board wanted to have a meeting before or after Wikiminia,
> please just let us know the further dertails. And we would like to
> arrange for the board meeting.
> Let me remind you, because the summer vocation, Chien Tan Overseas
> Youth (CTOY) will become popular during this time. It may need to
> registrate for the accommodations earlier. And I'll ask CTOY when is
> deadline to confirm the accommodation.
>
> So, if the board make the decision as earlier as you can, it's much
> easy to arrange everything. Even if CTOY didn't have the
> rooms or conference room, we can also arange the other places for the
> board.
>
> I will look forward to the accommodation for you, but please do not
> hesitate to contact me or the tean, should you require any further
> information.
>
> DAUCTER
>
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