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Fwd: presentation on Wikipedia goes well!
The first of the two conferences went quite well.
I only ran into a couple of problems and these
could perhaps be solved for the next conference.

It was held at Wentworth-by-the-Sea in Newcastle
NH, right next to Rye and Hampton Beach... the
place was gorgeous! And the facilities were awesome,
the AV folks there were very helpful in getting the
equipment all connected and very accomodating.

However the costs were pricey, an internet live
connect went for $150. A live AV support person
was $500 for the day... I didn't need an AV person
but even so, they were helpful anyway... no charge
for getting the connectors and making sure I was
ok to start the presentation, they were very helpful
indeed and very friendly!

All in all I presented on Friday and Saturday and
the headcount totals were over 100 educators,
school admins and staff from Northern New England
area.

The presentation on Wikipedia was well received...
the major objection, or should I say concern, is the
question that "how can Wikipedia content be
accurate without 'experts' writing the articles?"

My response is that the articles could be checked
against other online ecyclopedia content and thus
one could be reassured of the quality of content.
Also that there are safeguards like 'peer editing'
and 'npov' which help make the articles both
accurate and non-biased, or as much as a npov
objective can guarantee.

If there are other good points to counteract this
objection I'd be interested in putting this into the
next presentation... although for this next one
at McAuliffe Center Tech Conference I'll have a
fraction of the time I had at the NHAWLT presentation.

One of the problems I ran into was that I lost 'mousage',
I lost the mouse pointer, when I projected the laptop screen.
I used two different projectors and also tried an attached
USB mouse instead of the glidepoint.

But the instance of MediaWiki running
on the Linspire laptop was flawless of itself... a really
good example of how powerful and yet easy to use and
learn to edit the wiki engine is...

OpenOffice was very handy as a presentation tool.
I used the suggested presentation from French and
edited it and thinned it down for the time I had to
work with... I also used the screen shots of the
different language Wikipedias (that was done
around February)... And I incorporated the Alexa
charts to compare with Britannica, Groliers, Ecyclopedia.com
and refer.com so as to give some idea of Wikipedia's
growth and expansion.

I also briefly explained some of the other sister projects
and highlighted why the wiki software lends itself so
well to collaborative projects...

The next conference is in December.

With thanks to all who helped get me get MediaWiki
running on Linspire and also those that gave me
good suggestions on what to say during the presentation!

Best regards,
Jay Bowks
[[w:en:User:ILVI]]

On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:42:54 +0200, Ashar Voultoiz <hashar@altern.org> wrote:
> ilooy wrote:
>
>
> > Hi fellow Wikipedians,
> >
> > I'll be doing a presentation on Wikipedia for
> > the McAuliffe Conference and the NHAWLT
> > Teachers' Conference in the coming weeks
> > and was wondering if anyone else has done
> > a presentation to a large group... what features
> > would be good to highlight... and what seems
> > to work well with a group that has not heard
> > much about the project yet.
> >
> > If you have some ideas as to what might
> > be good points to bring out please let me
> > know. I appreciate any insights you may
> > offer on this subject.
> >
> > with sincere regards,
> > Jay B.
> > [[w:en:User:ILVI]]
>


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ilooy.gaon@gmail.com
Re: Fwd: presentation on Wikipedia goes well! [ In reply to ]
Quoting ilooy, from the post of Fri, 12 Nov:
>
> The presentation on Wikipedia was well received...
> the major objection, or should I say concern, is the
> question that "how can Wikipedia content be
> accurate without 'experts' writing the articles?"

My my, what a modest Email address you've got... :-)

when you first asked us about this I thought you were talking about
MediaWiki as a tool for a type of a presentation, I didn't realize you
were going to present the Wikipedia itself... what kind of confference
was it, I'm just curious...

--
Hot Stuff
Ira Abramov
http://ira.abramov.org/email/
Re: Fwd: presentation on Wikipedia goes well! [ In reply to ]
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 22:07:34 -0500, ilooy <ilooy.gaon@gmail.com> wrote:
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Such questions are in the Wikipedia FAQ and Help. (specifically,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Our_responses_to_our_critics
may be of interest.)

Good luck in future presentations!

-- Jamie
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Thank you to JosephM for inviting me to Gmail!
Re: Fwd: presentation on Wikipedia goes well! [ In reply to ]
I very much appreciate discussions like this on the list. I, too, will
be speaking this March at an academic conference on the ethics of
teaching distance education literature (like surveys and such)
courses. Some of my initial thoughts are on my blog:

<http://litmuse.maconstate.edu/~glucas/archives/000468.shtml>
<http://litmuse.maconstate.edu/~glucas/archives/000465.shtml>

I have not really begun too much research into this yet for a couple
of reasons: (1) I'm going to rely on my own primary data, and (2) I'm
busy. However, I have begun at least thinking about it, and this
conversation has helped. I appreciate the link to Wikipedia -- thanks
Jamie -- and I'm just wondering if anyone has any more suggestions
about what I could read as far as using wikis in teaching humanities
courses. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Jerry

BTW, my own course wiki (LitWiki) is linked off my web site:

<http://litmuse.maconstate.edu/>


On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 16:10:27 -0500, Jamie Bliss
<astronouth7303@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 22:07:34 -0500, ilooy <ilooy.gaon@gmail.com> wrote:
> > [clip]
>
> Such questions are in the Wikipedia FAQ and Help. (specifically,
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Our_responses_to_our_critics
> may be of interest.)
>
> Good luck in future presentations!
>
> -- Jamie
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> Thank you to JosephM for inviting me to Gmail!
>
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