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On 8/7/06, Jeffrey V. Merkey <jmerkey@wolfmountaingroup.com> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know when the enwiki dump will get fixed?
>
> In response to Fred, I doubt you will ever get any of the ISP's on
> anyone's side but their own. They have no incentive to listen
> and Wikipedia has a serious credibility problem with many of them due to
> the fact that any of the 600+ admins can file these
> reports, and many of them are malicious and spoofed. Your suggestion
> they should only come from the ARBCOM is a good
> one. Last time an administrator sent an ISP complaint in on me last
> year, the email was thrown in the trash -- and after they
> reviewed the article on me and the press issues with the JFK story, they
> told me they won't ever accept them again from
> Wikipedia.
>
> There's also the problem with the Asian ISP's -- they could care less
> and won't respond, esspecially the ones in Taiwan --
> I've tried.
>
> Jeff
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Basically, the foundation needs to make these complaints via official
channels. There is no use for each admin to bombard them with such
complaints.
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On Aug 6, 2006, at 9:02 PM, Jeffrey V. Merkey wrote:

> In response to Fred, I doubt you will ever get any of the ISP's on
> anyone's side but their own.

Actually I am getting cooperation. The technician has suggested a
good solution is to put their customer who is behind Tojo on a fixed
ip. This solution does not require them to lose a customer. In fact,
it is a sort of upgrade.

Fred

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Nathan Carter wrote:

>On 8/7/06, Jeffrey V. Merkey <jmerkey@wolfmountaingroup.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Does anyone know when the enwiki dump will get fixed?
>>
>>In response to Fred, I doubt you will ever get any of the ISP's on
>>anyone's side but their own. They have no incentive to listen
>>and Wikipedia has a serious credibility problem with many of them due to
>>the fact that any of the 600+ admins can file these
>>reports, and many of them are malicious and spoofed. Your suggestion
>>they should only come from the ARBCOM is a good
>>one. Last time an administrator sent an ISP complaint in on me last
>>year, the email was thrown in the trash -- and after they
>>reviewed the article on me and the press issues with the JFK story, they
>>told me they won't ever accept them again from
>>Wikipedia.
>>
>>There's also the problem with the Asian ISP's -- they could care less
>>and won't respond, esspecially the ones in Taiwan --
>>I've tried.
>>
>>Jeff
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>>
>>
>
>Basically, the foundation needs to make these complaints via official
>channels. There is no use for each admin to bombard them with such
>complaints.
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Absolutely correct. They WILL take a letter from Brad or Fred seriously.
No Question of that.

Jeff
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Fred Bauder wrote:

>On Aug 6, 2006, at 9:02 PM, Jeffrey V. Merkey wrote:
>
>
>
>>In response to Fred, I doubt you will ever get any of the ISP's on
>>anyone's side but their own.
>>
>>
>
>Actually I am getting cooperation. The technician has suggested a
>good solution is to put their customer who is behind Tojo on a fixed
>ip. This solution does not require them to lose a customer. In fact,
>it is a sort of upgrade.
>
>Fred
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>
>
Fred,

I agree that coming from someone reputable like you or Brad will
probably work. And getting Toyo in Japan
to respond quickly is amazing. They also have a pretty high powered
relationship with NTT in Japan, who runs
all the phone companies ....

Jeff
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Jeffrey V. Merkey wrote:

> Fred Bauder wrote:
>
>> On Aug 6, 2006, at 9:02 PM, Jeffrey V. Merkey wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> In response to Fred, I doubt you will ever get any of the ISP's on
>>> anyone's side but their own.
>>>
>>
>> Actually I am getting cooperation. The technician has suggested a
>> good solution is to put their customer who is behind Tojo on a fixed
>> ip. This solution does not require them to lose a customer. In fact,
>> it is a sort of upgrade.
>>
>> Fred
>>
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>>
>>
> Fred,
>
> I agree that coming from someone reputable like you or Brad will
> probably work. And getting Toyo in Japan
> to respond quickly is amazing. They also have a pretty high powered
> relationship with NTT in Japan, who runs
> all the phone companies ....
>
> Jeff


And I don't know what the heck happened at Wikimania, but I am getting
1720 visitors and 50,000+ hits an hour in Wikigadugi.org which started
about noon yesterday and has been increasing at a rate of 6% an hour.
Anyone know what happened? I think it's great, but did the site get
mention to folks in the press or something? I had to add two more proxy
servers this morning before heading up into the Kamas wilderness with
the family for the afternoon to handle the caching load.

Jeff

*period* Month Aug 2006
*First visit* NA
*Last visit* 06 Aug 2006 - 22:29
Unique visitors Number of visits Pages Hits Bandwidth
Viewed traffic* *1329*
*1720*
(1.29visits/visitor) *7982*
(4.64pages/visit) *23214*
(13.49hits/visit) *365.03 MB*
(217.32KB/visit)
Not viewed traffic*
*15965* *16007* *138.70 MB*

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