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Geonotice improvements that could make Wikinews great (among other benefits)
One of the great frustrations of Wikinews for me is that it doesn't
have a system for identifying and pointing users toward opportunities
to get out into the offline world and do original reporting. A
fine-grained cross-project opt-in geonotice system could be a
solution.

Here's how I imagine it working: there is a new opt-in geonotice (in
addition to the current one that reaches everyone in the specified
geography). For the opt-in geonotice (which would hopefully be able
to reach across projects, since many causal Wikinewsies visit that
site only rarely) any trusted user could add new items to let nearby
people know about reporting or photography opportunities. For these
opt-in notices, we would not need to lock down the ability to add
items like we do for the current geonotice system (it's a fully
protected page), since people who opt-in will expect a bit a noise.

So, for example, I would set a notice that Senator Chris Dodd is
holding a public discussion about health care reform on such-and-such
date in Hartford, Connecticut. I mark this as a photo opportunity and
a reporting opportunity. The system sets a default radius (or better
yet, users specify the radius they want to be notified within) and
everyone within x kilometers of Hartford who has opted in to the
notice gets a watchlist message pointing to more details. I can
imagine a wide range of tips and events that could be spread to the
right people with such a system.

This would do a couple things: it would draw in new users to Wikinews,
and given enough participation it could provide a resource that is
useful for professional journalists. Journalists are eager to figure
out useful ways to tap the knowledge of amateurs, and a widely used
geography-based tip-line is something that Wikimedia still has a
chance to be the first organization to do well. I think finding a way
to play a major part in the ongoing changes in the journalism world
ought to be a high priority for the Foundation.

-Sage Ross (User:Ragesoss)

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Re: Geonotice improvements that could make Wikinews great (among other benefits) [ In reply to ]
The Strategic Planning wiki is a good place to discuss this idea and
how it changed and/or implemented:
http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals/Geonotice_improvements
http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Proposals/Geonotice_improvements

-Sage

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Sage Ross<ragesoss+wikipedia@gmail.com> wrote:
> One of the great frustrations of Wikinews for me is that it doesn't
> have a system for identifying and pointing users toward opportunities
> to get out into the offline world and do original reporting.  A
> fine-grained cross-project opt-in geonotice system could be a
> solution.
>
> Here's how I imagine it working: there is a new opt-in geonotice (in
> addition to the current one that reaches everyone in the specified
> geography).  For the opt-in geonotice (which would hopefully be able
> to reach across projects, since many causal Wikinewsies visit that
> site only rarely) any trusted user could add new items to let nearby
> people know about reporting or photography opportunities.  For these
> opt-in notices, we would not need to lock down the ability to add
> items like we do for the current geonotice system (it's a fully
> protected page), since people who opt-in will expect a bit a noise.
>
> So, for example, I would set a notice that Senator Chris Dodd is
> holding a public discussion about health care reform on such-and-such
> date in Hartford, Connecticut.  I mark this as a photo opportunity and
> a reporting opportunity.  The system sets a default radius (or better
> yet, users specify the radius they want to be notified within) and
> everyone within x kilometers of Hartford who has opted in to the
> notice gets a watchlist message pointing to more details.  I can
> imagine a wide range of tips and events that could be spread to the
> right people with such a system.
>
> This would do a couple things: it would draw in new users to Wikinews,
> and given enough participation it could provide a resource that is
> useful for professional journalists.  Journalists are eager to figure
> out useful ways to tap the knowledge of amateurs, and a widely used
> geography-based tip-line is something that Wikimedia still has a
> chance to be the first organization to do well.  I think finding a way
> to play a major part in the ongoing changes in the journalism world
> ought to be a high priority for the Foundation.
>
> -Sage Ross (User:Ragesoss)
>

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Re: Geonotice improvements that could make Wikinews great (among other benefits) [ In reply to ]
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Sage Ross<ragesoss+wikipedia@gmail.com> wrote:
> One of the great frustrations of Wikinews for me is that it doesn't
> have a system for identifying and pointing users toward opportunities
> to get out into the offline world and do original reporting.  A
> fine-grained cross-project opt-in geonotice system could be a
> solution.
>
> Here's how I imagine it working: there is a new opt-in geonotice (in
> addition to the current one that reaches everyone in the specified
> geography).  For the opt-in geonotice (which would hopefully be able
> to reach across projects, since many causal Wikinewsies visit that
> site only rarely) any trusted user could add new items to let nearby
> people know about reporting or photography opportunities.  For these
> opt-in notices, we would not need to lock down the ability to add
> items like we do for the current geonotice system (it's a fully
> protected page), since people who opt-in will expect a bit a noise.

I think this would be awesome to try out! Geonotices have proved to be
wonderful for helping out with local meetups; I can even imagine
having two filters, opt-into notifications for local events and
opt-into notifications for wikinews stuff. Both pages to set the
notifications could be unprotected, and we could just see how it went.

That is all :)
phoebe

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