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This is fantastic news!
I've met Eugene a couple times through RecentChangesCamp and other venues,
and he is just the man for the job. You couldn't have picked someone
better.

Steven Walling

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Sue Gardner <sgardner@wikimedia.org>wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I am delighted to announce that Wikimedia's collaborative strategy
> development project, which was first discussed here on this list a few
> months ago, will be led by Eugene Eric Kim.
>
> Eugene is principal and co-founder of Blue Oxen Associates
> <http://blueoxen.com/>, a San Francisco-based socially-conscious
> consulting firm that focuses on understanding and improving how people
> collaborate. He's worked at all levels of the collaborative process,
> from strategy development to facilitation. His past clients have
> included People for the American Way, NASA, the Institute for
> International Education, Socialtext, and the Sierra Club.
>
> Eugene is also a long-time member of the Wiki community. He is the
> co-author of PurpleWiki, he spoke at the first Wikimania in Frankfurt,
> he was a keynote speaker at WikiSym 2006, and he was one of the
> instigators of the first RecentChangesCamp.
>
> Eugene will start today, July 13. He'll work in our San Francisco
> office. He will report to me, and the project's Facilitator and
> Research Analyst will report to him.
>
> I expect he'll take the first few weeks to catch up on the thinking
> that's been done so far, and you'll start hearing from him soon. We
> expect planning to take a few months, and the project itself will
> likely formally kick off shortly after Wikimania.
>
> I am thrilled to have Eugene join us for the strategy project, the
> Wikimedia Foundation's top priority in 2009-10. His wealth of
> experience and his deep understanding of our world make him a perfect
> partner to lead this project on our behalf. Please join me in
> congratulating and welcoming him. Also, my thanks to Erik Moeller and
> Jennifer Riggs for sitting on the hiring committee.
>
> Thanks,
> Sue
>
>
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Thanks for the welcome, Sue, and the kind words Steven! I'm glad to be
participating.

As Sue mentioned, I'll be ramping up for the next few weeks. As part
of that, we'll be setting up spaces for conversations. In the
meantime, don't hesitate to contact me with your thoughts, questions,
or simply just to say hi. I'm anxious to hear your thoughts and ideas
about the process and the hoped-for outcomes.

Thanks again!

=Eugene

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Sue Gardner<sgardner@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I am delighted to announce that Wikimedia's collaborative strategy
> development project, which was first discussed here on this list a few
> months ago, will be led by Eugene Eric Kim.
>
> Eugene is principal and co-founder of Blue Oxen Associates
> <http://blueoxen.com/>, a San Francisco-based socially-conscious
> consulting firm that focuses on understanding and improving how people
> collaborate. He's worked at all levels of the collaborative process,
> from strategy development to facilitation. His past clients have
> included People for the American Way, NASA, the Institute for
> International Education, Socialtext, and the Sierra Club.
>
> Eugene is also a long-time member of the Wiki community. He is the
> co-author of PurpleWiki, he spoke at the first Wikimania in Frankfurt,
> he was a keynote speaker at WikiSym 2006, and he was one of the
> instigators of the first RecentChangesCamp.
>
> Eugene will start today, July 13.  He'll work in our San Francisco
> office. He will report to me, and the project's Facilitator and
> Research Analyst will report to him.
>
> I expect he'll take the first few weeks to catch up on the thinking
> that's been done so far, and you'll start hearing from him soon. We
> expect planning to take a few months, and the project itself will
> likely formally kick off shortly after Wikimania.
>
> I am thrilled to have Eugene join us for the strategy project, the
> Wikimedia Foundation's top priority in 2009-10.  His wealth of
> experience and his deep understanding of our world make him a perfect
> partner to lead this project on our behalf.  Please join me in
> congratulating and welcoming him.  Also, my thanks to Erik Moeller and
> Jennifer Riggs for sitting on the hiring committee.
>
> Thanks,
> Sue

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Eugene Eric Kim ................................ http://xri.net/=eekim
Blue Oxen Associates ........................ http://www.blueoxen.com/
======================================================================

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Hoi,
There is one question that is obvious for me to ask.. What will the role be
of language, internationalisation and localisation in the strategy of the
WMF and how will it be possible to measure this ?
Thanks,
GerardM

PS Welcome

2009/7/13 Eugene Eric Kim <eekim@blueoxen.com>

> Thanks for the welcome, Sue, and the kind words Steven! I'm glad to be
> participating.
>
> As Sue mentioned, I'll be ramping up for the next few weeks. As part
> of that, we'll be setting up spaces for conversations. In the
> meantime, don't hesitate to contact me with your thoughts, questions,
> or simply just to say hi. I'm anxious to hear your thoughts and ideas
> about the process and the hoped-for outcomes.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> =Eugene
>
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Sue Gardner<sgardner@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I am delighted to announce that Wikimedia's collaborative strategy
> > development project, which was first discussed here on this list a few
> > months ago, will be led by Eugene Eric Kim.
> >
> > Eugene is principal and co-founder of Blue Oxen Associates
> > <http://blueoxen.com/>, a San Francisco-based socially-conscious
> > consulting firm that focuses on understanding and improving how people
> > collaborate. He's worked at all levels of the collaborative process,
> > from strategy development to facilitation. His past clients have
> > included People for the American Way, NASA, the Institute for
> > International Education, Socialtext, and the Sierra Club.
> >
> > Eugene is also a long-time member of the Wiki community. He is the
> > co-author of PurpleWiki, he spoke at the first Wikimania in Frankfurt,
> > he was a keynote speaker at WikiSym 2006, and he was one of the
> > instigators of the first RecentChangesCamp.
> >
> > Eugene will start today, July 13. He'll work in our San Francisco
> > office. He will report to me, and the project's Facilitator and
> > Research Analyst will report to him.
> >
> > I expect he'll take the first few weeks to catch up on the thinking
> > that's been done so far, and you'll start hearing from him soon. We
> > expect planning to take a few months, and the project itself will
> > likely formally kick off shortly after Wikimania.
> >
> > I am thrilled to have Eugene join us for the strategy project, the
> > Wikimedia Foundation's top priority in 2009-10. His wealth of
> > experience and his deep understanding of our world make him a perfect
> > partner to lead this project on our behalf. Please join me in
> > congratulating and welcoming him. Also, my thanks to Erik Moeller and
> > Jennifer Riggs for sitting on the hiring committee.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Sue
>
> --
> ======================================================================
> Eugene Eric Kim ................................ http://xri.net/=eekim
> Blue Oxen Associates ........................ http://www.blueoxen.com/
> ======================================================================
>
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Hi Gerard,

Thanks for the welcome! There are really two questions here: The
importance of language, internationalization, and localization in the
context of the plan itself, and the importance of all of these things
in the context of the strategic process. They'll be important for
both.

What specifically are you interested in measuring?

=Eugene

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Gerard
Meijssen<gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hoi,
> There is one question that is obvious for me to ask.. What will the role be
> of language, internationalisation and localisation in the strategy of the
> WMF and how will it be possible to measure this ?
> Thanks,
>     GerardM
>
> PS Welcome

--
======================================================================
Eugene Eric Kim ................................ http://xri.net/=eekim
Blue Oxen Associates ........................ http://www.blueoxen.com/
======================================================================

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Hoi,
With some 50% of our traffic in other languages then English it is obvious
that languages, internationalisation and localisation are of a profound
importance to the WMF. There are over 250 Wikipedias and we support over 300
linguistic entities at translatewiki.net where our internationalisation and
localisation is located. When a strategic plan for the WMF is to be made,
addressing the needs for these other languages is consequently as important
as the needs for the English projects.

When you look at the investments and the projects of the WMF, the other 50%
hardly feature. The Usability Initiative is about improving the English
Wikipedia, the new project for Commosn is to improve the ability of getting
images in while you need to know English to get images out of Commons. When
we get 100.000 images from the Tropenmuseum, how will we support Indonesian
and English when the annotations are Dutch? What if there are over 200 GLAM
in the Netherlands alone ??

The LocalisationUpdate extension is imho the most relevant piece of software
to improve the localisation of our projects and to motivate our localisers,
it was developed outside of the WMF. The MediaWiki software does not support
African languages well. We know what the problem is but we fail African
languages.

When I ask for measurments, I ask for numbers that show how the WMF
implements its strategy for other languages. How long does it take for
localisations to go life. What is the relation between the popularity of our
projects for a language and the localisation. What are is the amount of WMF
money spend on exclusively English language projects compared to the amount
of money exclusively earmarked for the other languages. How many words are
used in the annual reports on issues that are English vs the issues for the
other languages.

I have been pushing the cause of the "other languages" for quite some time.
I would like to see that the "other languages" have as much traction as
English in the WMF because I believe the "other projects" have a potential
that is bigger then the English Wikipedia.
Thanks,
GerardM


2009/7/14 Eugene Eric Kim <eekim@blueoxen.com>

> Hi Gerard,
>
> Thanks for the welcome! There are really two questions here: The
> importance of language, internationalization, and localization in the
> context of the plan itself, and the importance of all of these things
> in the context of the strategic process. They'll be important for
> both.
>
> What specifically are you interested in measuring?
>
> =Eugene
>
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Gerard
> Meijssen<gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hoi,
> > There is one question that is obvious for me to ask.. What will the role
> be
> > of language, internationalisation and localisation in the strategy of the
> > WMF and how will it be possible to measure this ?
> > Thanks,
> > GerardM
> >
> > PS Welcome
>
> --
> ======================================================================
> Eugene Eric Kim ................................ http://xri.net/=eekim
> Blue Oxen Associates ........................ http://www.blueoxen.com/
> ======================================================================
>
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