Mailing List Archive: Licensing update rolled out in all languages/projects

Licensing update rolled out in all languages/projects

Jun 29, 2009, 3:31 PM

Post #1 of 3 (557 views)

After an initial reference implementation in the English Wikipedia and
some bottom-up implementations in a number of projects, the licensing
update to the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License as the
primary text license, with GFDL as a secondary license with
limitations, has now been implemented in all previously GFDL-licensed
Wikimedia Foundation projects.

Wiki communities can now customize these texts further in accordance
with the implementation guidelines issued by the Wikimedia Foundation
at:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Licensing_update/Implementation

Importantly, this allows Wikimedia wiki communities to create their
own copy of the terms of use, with specific limitations on or
guidelines for attribution of externally imported CC-BY-SA content,
more detailed explanations for re-users, etc. The implementation
guidelines do allow significant flexibility, but we're hoping to
ensure baseline consistency across projects and languages, so please
do not deviate significantly from the guidelines. (If you feel the
guidelines are flawed, feel free to comment on the talk page on meta.)

If the messages have not been translated into your language yet, it is
appreciated to do this work through <translatewiki.net> so that it
doesn't have to be redundantly done for each Wikimedia project in that
language. As translatewiki.net translators know, localization changes
from there are rolled out regularly alongside normal code updates.
Thanks to our good friends there for helping with the process so far,
and thanks to all the translators.

The relevant user interface texts are MediaWiki system messages and
can be viewed and edited through the MediaWiki: namespace. They are:

[[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyright]] for the site footer
[[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyrightwarning]] for the editing page, above
the save/preview buttons
[[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-editpage-tos-summary]] for the editing page,
below the save/preview buttons.

For the more technical users, these changes were introduced to
MediaWiki in the following code revision:
<http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/52361>. They
live in the WikimediaMessages extension, which is only used by
Wikimedia Foundation wikis. These messages override standard system
messages, [[MediaWiki:Copyright]] and [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning]].
[[MediaWiki:Edittools]] has sometimes been used to move this type of
licensing information below the buttons/summary; the newly introduced
[[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-editpage-tos-summary]] is meant to reflect this
need while allowing us to consistently update/review these messages.

Finally, a note on trademark recognition. Some projects have a little
trademark notice in the footers, others don't. This notice isn't
required (but helpful); we're working on standardized trademark usage
guidelines, and we'll probably add a link to the site footer to these
once they're finalized.

I'll be checking the wikis, and particularly [[m:Talk:Licensing
update]] and [[m:Talk:Licensing update/Implementation]] for comments,
but please let me know if there are any immediate issues.

Thanks,
Erik
--
Erik Möller
Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation

Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate

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Re: Licensing update rolled out in all languages/projects [ In reply to ]

yonidebest at gmail

Jul 3, 2009, 2:08 PM

Post #2 of 3 (498 views)

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I have four questions/requests:
1) Can you produce a list of all new mediawiki messages related to the
change? Also, a list of old messages and their old content is also needed,
to help us maintain a certain level of wording consistancy.
2) I have been translating word-by-word from English and found it hard to
explain some points. Especially was the idea that Wikipedian's contributions
are published as CC-BY-SA *and *as GFDL, while contributions from "outside"
people can be CC-BY-SA only. Why am I (a wikipedian) required to publish my
work in both licenses but my non-wikipedian friend isn't? If we are a
CC-BY-SA site as presented at the pottom of every en.wiki page, why bother
with GFDL licensing? It's too confusing.
3) More importantly, I get the impression that each community can add/change
their licensing. Can he.wiki decide that all contributions from this day and
onwards will be published as CC-BY-SA only?
4) What is the licensing of pre-June 15th 2009 revisions (which are
accessible through the history page)? Are they GFDL *and *CC-BY-SA now?

Thanks,
Yoni
2009/6/30 Erik Moeller <erik@wikimedia.org>

> After an initial reference implementation in the English Wikipedia and
> some bottom-up implementations in a number of projects, the licensing
> update to the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License as the
> primary text license, with GFDL as a secondary license with
> limitations, has now been implemented in all previously GFDL-licensed
> Wikimedia Foundation projects.
>
> Wiki communities can now customize these texts further in accordance
> with the implementation guidelines issued by the Wikimedia Foundation
> at:
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Licensing_update/Implementation
>
> Importantly, this allows Wikimedia wiki communities to create their
> own copy of the terms of use, with specific limitations on or
> guidelines for attribution of externally imported CC-BY-SA content,
> more detailed explanations for re-users, etc. The implementation
> guidelines do allow significant flexibility, but we're hoping to
> ensure baseline consistency across projects and languages, so please
> do not deviate significantly from the guidelines. (If you feel the
> guidelines are flawed, feel free to comment on the talk page on meta.)
>
> If the messages have not been translated into your language yet, it is
> appreciated to do this work through <translatewiki.net> so that it
> doesn't have to be redundantly done for each Wikimedia project in that
> language. As translatewiki.net translators know, localization changes
> from there are rolled out regularly alongside normal code updates.
> Thanks to our good friends there for helping with the process so far,
> and thanks to all the translators.
>
> The relevant user interface texts are MediaWiki system messages and
> can be viewed and edited through the MediaWiki: namespace. They are:
>
> [[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyright]] for the site footer
> [[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyrightwarning]] for the editing page, above
> the save/preview buttons
> [[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-editpage-tos-summary]] for the editing page,
> below the save/preview buttons.
>
> For the more technical users, these changes were introduced to
> MediaWiki in the following code revision:
> <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/52361>. They
> live in the WikimediaMessages extension, which is only used by
> Wikimedia Foundation wikis. These messages override standard system
> messages, [[MediaWiki:Copyright]] and [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning]].
> [[MediaWiki:Edittools]] has sometimes been used to move this type of
> licensing information below the buttons/summary; the newly introduced
> [[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-editpage-tos-summary]] is meant to reflect this
> need while allowing us to consistently update/review these messages.
>
> Finally, a note on trademark recognition. Some projects have a little
> trademark notice in the footers, others don't. This notice isn't
> required (but helpful); we're working on standardized trademark usage
> guidelines, and we'll probably add a link to the site footer to these
> once they're finalized.
>
> I'll be checking the wikis, and particularly [[m:Talk:Licensing
> update]] and [[m:Talk:Licensing update/Implementation]] for comments,
> but please let me know if there are any immediate issues.
>
> Thanks,
> Erik
> --
> Erik MÃ¶ller
> Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation
>
> Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
>
> _______________________________________________
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> foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
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Re: Licensing update rolled out in all languages/projects [ In reply to ]

gerard.meijssen at gmail

Jul 3, 2009, 2:52 PM

Post #3 of 3 (498 views)

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Hoi,
The messages can be found on translatewiki here..
http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special%3ATranslate&task=view&group=ext-wikimediamessages&language=nl&limit=100.
Change the nl to your language code and you will find all the messages
that are specific to the Wikimedia Foundation including the messages about
copyright and licensing.

As to question on how things work, things have been explained so many times
in so many places that I do not care to answer it. Look for it on Meta, look
for it in the archives of the mailing lists and I am sure you find as good
an answer as you are likely to get from me. PS I have to look for it as well
in order to answer you.;
Thanks,
GerardM

2009/7/3 Yoni Weiden <yonidebest@gmail.com>

> I have four questions/requests:
> 1) Can you produce a list of all new mediawiki messages related to the
> change? Also, a list of old messages and their old content is also needed,
> to help us maintain a certain level of wording consistancy.
> 2) I have been translating word-by-word from English and found it hard to
> explain some points. Especially was the idea that Wikipedian's
> contributions
> are published as CC-BY-SA *and *as GFDL, while contributions from "outside"
> people can be CC-BY-SA only. Why am I (a wikipedian) required to publish my
> work in both licenses but my non-wikipedian friend isn't? If we are a
> CC-BY-SA site as presented at the pottom of every en.wiki page, why bother
> with GFDL licensing? It's too confusing.
> 3) More importantly, I get the impression that each community can
> add/change
> their licensing. Can he.wiki decide that all contributions from this day
> and
> onwards will be published as CC-BY-SA only?
> 4) What is the licensing of pre-June 15th 2009 revisions (which are
> accessible through the history page)? Are they GFDL *and *CC-BY-SA now?
>
> Thanks,
> Yoni
> 2009/6/30 Erik Moeller <erik@wikimedia.org>
>
> > After an initial reference implementation in the English Wikipedia and
> > some bottom-up implementations in a number of projects, the licensing
> > update to the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License as the
> > primary text license, with GFDL as a secondary license with
> > limitations, has now been implemented in all previously GFDL-licensed
> > Wikimedia Foundation projects.
> >
> > Wiki communities can now customize these texts further in accordance
> > with the implementation guidelines issued by the Wikimedia Foundation
> > at:
> >
> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Licensing_update/Implementation
> >
> > Importantly, this allows Wikimedia wiki communities to create their
> > own copy of the terms of use, with specific limitations on or
> > guidelines for attribution of externally imported CC-BY-SA content,
> > more detailed explanations for re-users, etc. The implementation
> > guidelines do allow significant flexibility, but we're hoping to
> > ensure baseline consistency across projects and languages, so please
> > do not deviate significantly from the guidelines. (If you feel the
> > guidelines are flawed, feel free to comment on the talk page on meta.)
> >
> > If the messages have not been translated into your language yet, it is
> > appreciated to do this work through <translatewiki.net> so that it
> > doesn't have to be redundantly done for each Wikimedia project in that
> > language. As translatewiki.net translators know, localization changes
> > from there are rolled out regularly alongside normal code updates.
> > Thanks to our good friends there for helping with the process so far,
> > and thanks to all the translators.
> >
> > The relevant user interface texts are MediaWiki system messages and
> > can be viewed and edited through the MediaWiki: namespace. They are:
> >
> > [[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyright]] for the site footer
> > [[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyrightwarning]] for the editing page, above
> > the save/preview buttons
> > [[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-editpage-tos-summary]] for the editing page,
> > below the save/preview buttons.
> >
> > For the more technical users, these changes were introduced to
> > MediaWiki in the following code revision:
> > <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/52361>. They
> > live in the WikimediaMessages extension, which is only used by
> > Wikimedia Foundation wikis. These messages override standard system
> > messages, [[MediaWiki:Copyright]] and [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning]].
> > [[MediaWiki:Edittools]] has sometimes been used to move this type of
> > licensing information below the buttons/summary; the newly introduced
> > [[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-editpage-tos-summary]] is meant to reflect this
> > need while allowing us to consistently update/review these messages.
> >
> > Finally, a note on trademark recognition. Some projects have a little
> > trademark notice in the footers, others don't. This notice isn't
> > required (but helpful); we're working on standardized trademark usage
> > guidelines, and we'll probably add a link to the site footer to these
> > once they're finalized.
> >
> > I'll be checking the wikis, and particularly [[m:Talk:Licensing
> > update]] and [[m:Talk:Licensing update/Implementation]] for comments,
> > but please let me know if there are any immediate issues.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Erik
> > --
> > Erik MÃ¶ller
> > Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation
> >
> > Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > foundation-l mailing list
> > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
> >
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