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Hi,

*what* SPF patch for sendmail? There are several. Help us help you,
please give us some more information to go with.

Kind regards,

Koen

On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 12:19:47AM +0530, Buchibabu wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i am using Redhat 9. I am unable to install SPF patch for sendmail. Please help me how to install this Patch. It is asking for Perl modules.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Buchibabu
>
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Thanks for the respnse Koen.

i am using perl Mail::SPF::Query module. it is asking for so many
dependancies. Also i am not able to install it properly.

Please let me know if there are any RPMs to install these patches or is
there any other patch that can be easily installed.

Thanks,
Buchibabu
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Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 1:59 AM
Subject: Re: [spf-help] Help me to install SPF patch for sendmail


> Hi,
>
> *what* SPF patch for sendmail? There are several. Help us help you,
> please give us some more information to go with.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Koen
>
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 12:19:47AM +0530, Buchibabu wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > i am using Redhat 9. I am unable to install SPF patch for sendmail.
Please help me how to install this Patch. It is asking for Perl modules.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Buchibabu
> >
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Buchibabu" <btungam@osi-tech.com>
To: <spf-help@v2.listbox.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [spf-help] Help me to install SPF patch for sendmail


> Thanks for the respnse Koen.
>
> i am using perl Mail::SPF::Query module. it is asking for so many
> dependancies. Also i am not able to install it properly.
>
> Please let me know if there are any RPMs to install these patches or is
> there any other patch that can be easily installed.
>
> Thanks,
> Buchibabu


Ahh, I see. You need to visit ftp://www.city-fan.org/pub/contrib/mail and
ftp://www.city-fan.org/pub/contrib/perl-modules/RPMS.rhl9/ where these are
already built up for you.

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Hi,

Yes, perl can be a pain in the *rs* sometimes. The best way to solve
this is to use the CPAN interface for installing perl stuff:

perl -MCPAN -e "Mail::SPF::Query"

this should install the dependencies automagically..

Just having the perl module, btw, is not enough to check SPF with
sendmail I believe, you need more than that. Check out the sites
spf.pobox.com, www.libspf.org and www.libspf2.org, they'll all contain
pointers to various different ways of implementing spf in sendmail.

If there's any more you'd like to know, just ask!

Koen

On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 02:45:41AM +0530, Buchibabu wrote:
> Thanks for the respnse Koen.
>
> i am using perl Mail::SPF::Query module. it is asking for so many
> dependancies. Also i am not able to install it properly.
>
> Please let me know if there are any RPMs to install these patches or is
> there any other patch that can be easily installed.
>
> Thanks,
> Buchibabu
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Koen Martens" <spf@metro.cx>
> To: <spf-help@v2.listbox.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 1:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [spf-help] Help me to install SPF patch for sendmail
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > *what* SPF patch for sendmail? There are several. Help us help you,
> > please give us some more information to go with.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Koen
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 12:19:47AM +0530, Buchibabu wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > i am using Redhat 9. I am unable to install SPF patch for sendmail.
> Please help me how to install this Patch. It is asking for Perl modules.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > Buchibabu
> > >
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Hi All,

We had serious stability problems when we used the perl modules. We
are now using the librariries and spfmilter from http://www.libspf2.org on
Solaris (Sparc/Intel) servers with Sendmail 8.13.0 and everything is
humming along.

Regards
SK






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Hi,

Yes, perl can be a pain in the *rs* sometimes. The best way to solve
this is to use the CPAN interface for installing perl stuff:

perl -MCPAN -e "Mail::SPF::Query"

this should install the dependencies automagically..

Just having the perl module, btw, is not enough to check SPF with
sendmail I believe, you need more than that. Check out the sites
spf.pobox.com, www.libspf.org and www.libspf2.org, they'll all contain
pointers to various different ways of implementing spf in sendmail.

If there's any more you'd like to know, just ask!

Koen

On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 02:45:41AM +0530, Buchibabu wrote:
> Thanks for the respnse Koen.
>
> i am using perl Mail::SPF::Query module. it is asking for so many
> dependancies. Also i am not able to install it properly.
>
> Please let me know if there are any RPMs to install these patches or is
> there any other patch that can be easily installed.
>
> Thanks,
> Buchibabu
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Koen Martens" <spf@metro.cx>
> To: <spf-help@v2.listbox.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 1:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [spf-help] Help me to install SPF patch for sendmail
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > *what* SPF patch for sendmail? There are several. Help us help you,
> > please give us some more information to go with.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Koen
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 12:19:47AM +0530, Buchibabu wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > i am using Redhat 9. I am unable to install SPF patch for sendmail.
> Please help me how to install this Patch. It is asking for Perl modules.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > Buchibabu
> > >
> > > -------
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Koen Martens" <spf@metro.cx>
To: <spf-help@v2.listbox.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: [spf-help] Help me to install SPF patch for sendmail


> Hi,
>
> Yes, perl can be a pain in the *rs* sometimes. The best way to solve
> this is to use the CPAN interface for installing perl stuff:
>
> perl -MCPAN -e "Mail::SPF::Query"
>
> this should install the dependencies automagically..
>
> Just having the perl module, btw, is not enough to check SPF with
> sendmail I believe, you need more than that. Check out the sites
> spf.pobox.com, www.libspf.org and www.libspf2.org, they'll all contain
> pointers to various different ways of implementing spf in sendmail.
>
> If there's any more you'd like to know, just ask!
>
> Koen

I recommend strongly against this approach in the package-bundled software
world. This kind of updating can shatter package compabilities of things
that are already installed, and will fail to report that you have already
installed the packages if you attempt to install another bundled package
with the dependency. Then you install a new bundled copy of the already
present software, and things become likely to break.

For a world like gentoo where you're doing your own package building, great,
but for the RPM or apt package worlds, use the packages or build your own
packages from the tarballs to maintain consistency and managability.

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On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 12:21:48PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> I recommend strongly against this approach in the package-bundled software
> world. This kind of updating can shatter package compabilities of things
> that are already installed, and will fail to report that you have already
> installed the packages if you attempt to install another bundled package
> with the dependency. Then you install a new bundled copy of the already
> present software, and things become likely to break.
>
> For a world like gentoo where you're doing your own package building, great,
> but for the RPM or apt package worlds, use the packages or build your own
> packages from the tarballs to maintain consistency and managability.

Ok, sorry for the bad advice. I always download & compile the source
from the project website anyway, mainly because package systems tend to
break if you go beyond the inflexible paths layed out for you. Sooner or
later, those dependencies _will_ get mixed up, and the only option is
the microsoft-solution: format & reinstall your os.

I think especially with SPF, where the current development is going fast
and the package maintainers don't pick up on changes as they happen, i
think my aproach has it's merits.

Koen

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