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Why some don't get scanned?
I have an occasional mail that doesn't appear to get evaluated by my SA.
The headers below are from a mail that was forwarded from an off-site
account to my Linux machine running SA. I get lots of mail this way
(forwarded from other accts), and almost all get evaluated properly - So why
would an occasional mail NOT get an SA eval? Here are the headers of one
that got through without an eval. It obviously was tagged at the -other-
server, but again, I have others like this that DO get the ususal eval
by -MY- SA.

Return-Path: <qcvqeakxxy@yahoo.com>
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From: "Willie Hearn" <yryaop@yahoo.com>
To: fleming.john@1umc.net
Cc: fleming.phyllis@1umc.net
Subject: {Spam?} 0--The girls will never let you go with this--sideman
Mime-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: ankara vale some
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 14:38:05 -0700
Reply-To: "Willie Hearn" <domajawb@yahoo.com>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="4028093727050907701"
Message-Id: <PNYSNLZ-0008510467325@pater>
X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more
information
X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean
X-yoursite-MailScanner-SpamCheck: spam, spamcop.net,
SpamAssassin (score=13.708, required 6, BAYES_99 5.40,
FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD 0.90, HTML_70_80 0.10, HTML_FONT_INVISIBLE 0.60,
HTML_MESSAGE 0.10, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET 1.50, RCVD_IN_DSBL 0.71,
RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK 2.60, RCVD_IN_NJABL 0.10, RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY 0.50,
RCVD_IN_SORBS 0.10, RCVD_IN_SORBS_HTTP 1.10)
X-yoursite-MailScanner-SpamScore: sssssssssssss
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Re: Why some don't get scanned? [ In reply to ]
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Fleming" <john@wa9als.com>
To: <spamassassin-users@incubator.apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 7:46 PM
Subject: Why some don't get scanned?


> I have an occasional mail that doesn't appear to get evaluated by my SA.
> The headers below are from a mail that was forwarded from an off-site
> account to my Linux machine running SA. I get lots of mail this way
> (forwarded from other accts), and almost all get evaluated properly - So
why
> would an occasional mail NOT get an SA eval? Here are the headers of one
> that got through without an eval. It obviously was tagged at the -other-
> server, but again, I have others like this that DO get the ususal eval
> by -MY- SA.
>
> Return-Path: <qcvqeakxxy@yahoo.com>
> X-Original-To: john@wa9als.com
> Delivered-To: john@wa9als.com
> Received: from 1umc.net (elisha.churchquest.com [207.44.194.116])
> by wa9als.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DCC64A45
> for <john@wa9als.com>; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 16:39:17 -0500 (EST)
> Received: from elisha.churchquest.com (root@localhost)
> by 1umc.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i1LLdF107151;
> Sat, 21 Feb 2004 15:39:15 -0600
> X-ClientAddr: 81.224.196.209
> Received: from h209n1fls22o918.bredband.comhem.se
> (h209n1fls22o918.bredband.comhem.se [81.224.196.209])
> by elisha.churchquest.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id i1LLd4i07126;
> Sat, 21 Feb 2004 15:39:04 -0600
> Received: from [16.37.191.14] by 81.224.196.209 with HTTP;
> Sat, 21 Feb 2004 16:36:05 -0500
> From: "Willie Hearn" <yryaop@yahoo.com>
> To: fleming.john@1umc.net
> Cc: fleming.phyllis@1umc.net
> Subject: {Spam?} 0--The girls will never let you go with this--sideman
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> X-Mailer: ankara vale some
> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 14:38:05 -0700
> Reply-To: "Willie Hearn" <domajawb@yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> boundary="4028093727050907701"
> Message-Id: <PNYSNLZ-0008510467325@pater>
> X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more
> information
> X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean
> X-yoursite-MailScanner-SpamCheck: spam, spamcop.net,
> SpamAssassin (score=13.708, required 6, BAYES_99 5.40,
> FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD 0.90, HTML_70_80 0.10, HTML_FONT_INVISIBLE 0.60,
> HTML_MESSAGE 0.10, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET 1.50, RCVD_IN_DSBL 0.71,
> RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK 2.60, RCVD_IN_NJABL 0.10, RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY 0.50,
> RCVD_IN_SORBS 0.10, RCVD_IN_SORBS_HTTP 1.10)
> X-yoursite-MailScanner-SpamScore: sssssssssssss
> Status:
>

In followup, here are headers from a mail that was tagged at the first
server, but was then also properly tagged at my server. So the question is
still why a few emails that get tagged at the first server don't even appear
to get evaluated at my server (like the one above) , when almost all of them
do (like the one below)? Thanks - John

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From: Betty <LuisAli@tor.co.za>
To: fleming.john@1umc.net, fleming.phyllis@1umc.net
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 19:46:28 -0100
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* 1.0 J_CHICKENPOX_23 BODY: {2}Letter - punctuation - {3}Letter
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Re: Why some don't get scanned? [ In reply to ]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Raquel Rice" <raquel@thericehouse.net>
To: <spamassassin-users@incubator.apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: Why some don't get scanned?


> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 19:51:55 -0500
> "John Fleming" <john@wa9als.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Fleming" <john@wa9als.com>
> > To: <spamassassin-users@incubator.apache.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 7:46 PM
> > Subject: Why some don't get scanned?
> >
> >
> > > I have an occasional mail that doesn't appear to get evaluated
> > > by my SA. The headers below are from a mail that was forwarded
> > > from an off-site account to my Linux machine running SA. I get
> > > lots of mail this way(forwarded from other accts), and almost
> > > all get evaluated properly - So
> > why
> > > would an occasional mail NOT get an SA eval? Here are the
> > > headers of one that got through without an eval. It obviously
> > > was tagged at the -other- server, but again, I have others like
> > > this that DO get the ususal eval by -MY- SA.
> > >
> > > SpamAssassin (score=13.708, required 6
> > SpamAssassin (score=10.019, required 6
> > X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=21.5 required=5.0
>
> Given the results, above, I'm not sure how you can say that it's not
> being evaluated.

I was afraid someone would say that. It's because it -is- being evaluated
by SA at the first server, but not again at my server. Others get eval by
the first server AND my server. I posted another example of one that gets
evaluated by BOTH servers - My SA adds a different tag ([SPAM] instead of
{Spam?}) and doesn't have the "X-yoursite-MailScanner" part etc etc (See my
followup post with TWO examples.) Tnx