Mailing List Archive: lists in virtual domains and bounces

lists in virtual domains and bounces

Mar 6, 1997, 4:41 AM

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I have a mailing list on a virtual domain. The list is called
corps@tres-corps.org, and hence the owner is corps-owner@tres-corps.org

in control/virtualdomains I have:
tres-corps.org:alias-tres

in control/alias I have
.qmail-tres-corps [the mailing list]
.qmail-tres-corps-owner [the list owner]

It is a "manually" maintained list (ie does not use qlist)

A buonce was generated by a couple of bad addresses in the list, but
the bounce, instead of sending to corps-owner@tres-corps.org went to
alias-tres-corps-owner@tres-corps.org

When qmail received this, it mapped the virtual domain, so it
was looking for the file
control/alias/.qmail-tres-alias-tres-corps-owner
Which of course doesn't (and shouldn't) exist.

Did I do something wrong? Or is it a bug in qmail?

this is qmail-0.92 btw.

Timothy
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Hi. This is the qmail-send program at jade.xara.net.
I tried to deliver a bounce message to this address, but the bounce bounced!

<alias-tres-corps-owner@tres-corps.org>:
Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1)

- --- Below this line is the original bounce.

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Received: (qmail 8241 invoked for bounce); 6 Mar 1997 11:12:20 -0000
Date: 6 Mar 1997 11:12:20 -0000
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To: alias-tres-corps-owner@tres-corps.org
Subject: failure notice
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lists in virtual domains and bounces [ In reply to ]

nelson at crynwr

Mar 6, 1997, 7:52 AM

Post #2 of 5 (817 views)

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Timothy Hunt writes:
> A bounce was generated by a couple of bad addresses in the list, but
> the bounce, instead of sending to corps-owner@tres-corps.org went to
> alias-tres-corps-owner@tres-corps.org
>
> When qmail received this, it mapped the virtual domain, so it
> was looking for the file
> control/alias/.qmail-tres-alias-tres-corps-owner
> Which of course doesn't (and shouldn't) exist.
>
> Did I do something wrong? Or is it a bug in qmail?

Ugh. Essentially, yes. When qmail sees that a .qmail-LOCAL-owner file
exists, it sets the sender address to LOCAL-owner@HOST. The problem
is that LOCAL has already been modified with the RHS of the
virtualdomains entry.

The work-around is to set the proper sender via the -f option to
qmail-inject.

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Re: lists in virtual domains and bounces [ In reply to ]

qmail at timothy

Mar 6, 1997, 10:25 AM

Post #3 of 5 (816 views)

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> >
> > Did I do something wrong? Or is it a bug in qmail?
>
> Ugh. Essentially, yes. When qmail sees that a .qmail-LOCAL-owner file
> exists, it sets the sender address to LOCAL-owner@HOST. The problem
> is that LOCAL has already been modified with the RHS of the
> virtualdomains entry.
>
> The work-around is to set the proper sender via the -f option to
> qmail-inject.
>

How do I do this exactly? or, alternatively, is there a Better Way to handle
the virtual domains in a later release of qmail? (given I really shoudl
upgrade...)

Timothy

Re: lists in virtual domains and bounces [ In reply to ]

djb at koobera

Mar 12, 1997, 4:19 PM

Post #4 of 5 (822 views)

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> alias-tres-corps-owner@tres-corps.org

qmail-alias is not designed to handle mailing lists at virtual
addresses. (ezmlm is.) You should forward the mail to a real address.

---Dan
Let your users manage their own mailing lists. http://pobox.com/~djb/qmail.html

Re: lists in virtual domains and bounces [ In reply to ]

qmail at timothy

Mar 13, 1997, 4:16 AM

Post #5 of 5 (816 views)

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>
> qmail-alias is not designed to handle mailing lists at virtual
> addresses. (ezmlm is.) You should forward the mail to a real address.
>
Any chance of a likely release date for ezmlm?

Timothy