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Micorsoft said they will "fix" the shell in the next release of NT so that
associations work correctly.

-- Dick

At 01:19 AM 11/10/95 UT, Ralph Shillington wrote:
>It would seem to my that we remain a victim of vestiges of DOS. This makes
>life really difficult for those of us trying to rationalize using NT as a WWW
>server platform. Am As a Microsoft SP my hand are tied but one could always
>hope for fully support alternative shell to cmd.
>
>Cheers
>Ralph Shillington
>
>----------
>From: owner-ntperl@mail.hip.com on behalf of Stuart Poulin
>Sent: Thursday, November 09, 1995 1:01 PM
>To: ntperl@mail.hip.com
>Subject: The -S switch and associations.
>
>Will the next release of Perl for Win32 support the associations
>(assoc .pl=perl) with the -S switch?
>
>Currently it complains it can't execute a script.
>
>C:\users\stuart> perl -S foo.pl"
>Can't execute c:\users\stuart\bin/foo.pl.
>
>Should it really care? Shouldn't it just find the script and read
>the lines.
>
>Just typing foo.pl does work ( But then I can't pass command line
>args :-( ).
>
>Is it me, or is this whole start up issue on NT bogus? The pl2bat is a
>lucky hack, and the .pl=perl association only half works. I just want
>to startup my scripts and pass command line arguments. Why all the
>hassle? (Just Venting)
>
>Thanks,
> Stuart
>
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Ok, this is an old story, but I think I have more input.

First, this is Windows NT 3.51 (Service Pack 2) and Perl Version 5
Release 100 Beta 2 (according to "release.txt") built from source
(with VC++4.0 if that matters).

As Stuart Poulin reported below, using an association (assoc .pl=perl)
perl still can't run a ".pl" script because it reports it as being not
executable:

> >C:\users\stuart> perl -S foo.pl"
^
|__
(sic)
> >Can't execute c:\users\stuart\bin/foo.pl.

The problem lies with the function "cando" in doio.cpp and Microsoft C
library stat() function: only files with certain extensions have their
execute bit set in the 'struct stat' returned by stat(). The
documentation of '_stat' in VC++4.0 doesn't mention wich extensions
these are, but according to the comment in doio.cpp, they are "exe",
"com" and "bat".

At least when your filesystem is NTFS, you can set the execution bit
on a file-by-file basis.

Maybe the NT port of perl could get around Microsoft C library stat()
and explicitly check for the execution bit ?


Dick Hardt writes:
> Micorsoft said they will "fix" the shell in the next release of NT so that
> associations work correctly.
>
> -- Dick
>
> At 01:19 AM 11/10/95 UT, Ralph Shillington wrote:
> >It would seem to my that we remain a victim of vestiges of DOS. This makes
> >life really difficult for those of us trying to rationalize using NT as a WWW
> >server platform. Am As a Microsoft SP my hand are tied but one could always
> >hope for fully support alternative shell to cmd.
> >
> >Cheers
> >Ralph Shillington
> >
> >----------
> >From: owner-ntperl@mail.hip.com on behalf of Stuart Poulin
> >Sent: Thursday, November 09, 1995 1:01 PM
> >To: ntperl@mail.hip.com
> >Subject: The -S switch and associations.
> >
> >Will the next release of Perl for Win32 support the associations
> >(assoc .pl=perl) with the -S switch?
> >
> >Currently it complains it can't execute a script.
> >
> >C:\users\stuart> perl -S foo.pl"
> >Can't execute c:\users\stuart\bin/foo.pl.
> >
> >Should it really care? Shouldn't it just find the script and read
> >the lines.
> >
> >Just typing foo.pl does work ( But then I can't pass command line
> >args :-( ).
> >
> >Is it me, or is this whole start up issue on NT bogus? The pl2bat is a
> >lucky hack, and the .pl=perl association only half works. I just want
> >to startup my scripts and pass command line arguments. Why all the
> >hassle? (Just Venting)
> >
> >Thanks,
> > Stuart
> >
> >+---------------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
> >| Stuart Poulin | Phone: 206 882 5211 (Direct) |
> >| Applied Microsystems Corporation | 206 882 2000 |
> >| 5020 148th Ave NE | Email: stuart@amc.com |
> >| Redmond WA 98073 | WWW: http://www.amc.com |
> >+---------------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
> >#
> >
> >
> >
> --~--~--~--~-- hi mom! -~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~
> mailto:Dick_Hardt@hip.com fax: 604.654.9881
> http://info.hip.com/info me: 604.685.0124
> hip communications inc.
> 350 - 1122 Mainland Street, Vancouver BC, V6B 5L1

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