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I wouldn't dignify it with a direct response - we've got a refresh of the
'open' wiki page in progress, I'll see if there are specifically confusing
aspects of 'open' that we could highlight:

Open to many vendors (not just one)

Open to debate.
On Mar 14, 2013 3:48 AM, "Diego Parrilla" <diego.parrilla@stackops.com>
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I have just came across this blog post in the OpenNebula website. I was
> shocked when I read it, but honestly not surprised.
>
> http://blog.opennebula.org/?p=4372
>
> Probably a smart and nice response from the Foundation would be the right
> move.
>
> Regards
> Diego
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On 03/14/2013 03:46 AM, Diego Parrilla wrote:
> I have just came across this blog post in the OpenNebula website. I was
> shocked when I read it, but honestly not surprised.

Randy Bias gave a very nice answer on that post.

I agree with Joshua's comment: engaging in a pissing contest does us no
good.

/stef

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are shouting you down.

-Matt

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Stefano Maffulli
<stefano@openstack.org> wrote:
> On 03/14/2013 03:46 AM, Diego Parrilla wrote:
>>
>> I have just came across this blog post in the OpenNebula website. I was
>> shocked when I read it, but honestly not surprised.
>
>
> Randy Bias gave a very nice answer on that post.
>
> I agree with Joshua's comment: engaging in a pissing contest does us no
> good.
>
> /stef
>
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You are probably right. I will take my pills to take my pressure down ;-)

The fact is that the post is smart and with good arguments, but about the
'Production readiness' of Openstack he argues that Openstack is
'Production/Enterprise ready' only if it's supported by Vendors. This is
not true. It's Production ready because of a collaborative effort of the
community. Vendor support is a (natural, by the way) need of enterprise of
good support and easy product delivery.

So assuming that Openstack is 'production ready only if you use
Semi-Vendor-Locked openstack components' is incorrect and opens the gate to
fragmentation if vendors believe so.

Let's look at the Android community, If we change the product 'Openstack'
to 'Android', that would mean that the product readiness of Android comes
from the efforts of each manufacturer, and not from the Android community
by itself. Everybody knows this is not true.

Ok, these are my early morning thoughts.
Cheers

Diego

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On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Joshua McKenty <joshua@pistoncloud.com>wrote:

> I wouldn't dignify it with a direct response - we've got a refresh of the
> 'open' wiki page in progress, I'll see if there are specifically confusing
> aspects of 'open' that we could highlight:
>
> Open to many vendors (not just one)
>
> Open to debate.
> On Mar 14, 2013 3:48 AM, "Diego Parrilla" <diego.parrilla@stackops.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I have just came across this blog post in the OpenNebula website. I was
>> shocked when I read it, but honestly not surprised.
>>
>> http://blog.opennebula.org/?p=4372
>>
>> Probably a smart and nice response from the Foundation would be the right
>> move.
>>
>> Regards
>> Diego
>> --
>> Diego Parrilla
>> <http://www.stackops.com>*CEO*
>> *www.stackops.com | * diego.parrilla@stackops.com** | +34 649 94 43 29 |
>> skype:diegoparrilla*
>> * <http://www.stackops.com>
>> *
>>
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