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Hi Josh,

it's been around for a while:

https://github.com/openbsd/src/commit/8747197a4a479407167d01f46017ddb99cc3cae2

Though the commit doesn't say why it needs the \r.

Cheers,
Marian

On 11/11/23 00:38, Joshua Rogers wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have recently only discovered that openssh prints lines to stderr
> separated by CLRF pairs, and am trying to understand where this
> behavior comes from.
>
> This behavior can be seen here:
> --snip--
> $ ssh u@u 2>&1 | sed -n l
> ssh: Could not resolve hostname u: Name or service not known\r$
> --snip--
>
> I have seen section 11.3 from rfc4253, but am unsure whether that is
> the origin of this behavior. Is a "Debug Message"(SSH_MSG_DEBUG)
> considered anything that is logged on stderr?
>
> Any insights welcome!
>
> Cheers,
> Josh
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On Sat, 11 Nov 2023, Marian Beermann wrote:

> Though the commit doesn't say why it needs the \r.

When the terminal is in raw mode, \n is not the line separator
but \x0D\x0A is: \x0D moves the cursor to the beginning of the
line and \x0A moves it to one line below but does not change
the horizontal position.

So it’s a requirement when in raw mode and doesn’t hurt in
cooked mode.

bye,
//mirabilos
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Hi Thorsten,

Thank you for the clarification.

Cheers,
Josh

On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 1:57?AM Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 11 Nov 2023, Marian Beermann wrote:
>
> > Though the commit doesn't say why it needs the \r.
>
> When the terminal is in raw mode, \n is not the line separator
> but \x0D\x0A is: \x0D moves the cursor to the beginning of the
> line and \x0A moves it to one line below but does not change
> the horizontal position.
>
> So it’s a requirement when in raw mode and doesn’t hurt in
> cooked mode.
>
> bye,
> //mirabilos
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