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Hi Mike,

I haven't see anything. ETA are difficult to give. For example, is a ship available or is it already in the middle of a job. These ships are quite busy. Not only do they do repairs for undersea optics, but they lay cables for offshore oil platforms, regional cables, etc.

And even if a ship is available, maybe it has to return to port for provisioning (pick up fiber optic cable stockpiled by the undersea cable system or some of its repeaters).

And then the ship has to locate the fault. You can't calculate the exact point where a failure has occurred. So you have to look for it with an unmanned submarine.

Lots of potential headaches.

Roderick S. Beck
Director of European Sales
Hibernia Atlantic
1, Passage du Chantier, 75012 Paris
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Wireless: 1-212-444-8829.
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``Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.'' Albert Einstein.



-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Lyon [mailto:mike.lyon@gmail.com]
Sent: Fri 2/1/2008 6:59 PM
To: Rod Beck
Cc: outages at isotf.org
Subject: Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

Hmmm. I thought I saw Osama putting on his diving suit... ***SHRUG*** :)

Have there been any ETAs named yet for all three of these cable repairs?

We have an office in India and it made me think, when these American
companies decided to outsource to India, did any of them consider ANY
of the telecom infrastructure over there? I don't want to come across
as negative but our experiences with all the telecom providers over in
India have been horrible! Echoey PSTN networks, extreme network
congestion, etc...

-Mike

On Feb 1, 2008 10:16 AM, Rod Beck <Rod.Beck at hiberniaatlantic.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Of course, we all know the Mossad (Israeli secret services) and CIA did it
> as part of the global conspiracy against the Middle East and Third World ...
>
> In recent years I have restrained myself, but from time to time the 'old
> Rod Beck' manages to evade the supervision of the Super Ego (presumably you
> know your Freudian psychology).
>
> But seriously, double failures occur all the time. TAT-14 went dark for
> over 24 hours on December 28, 2003 when one cable was damaged and the switch
> of traffic to the other cable caused the second cable to experience a
> repeater failure.
>
> Probability dictates that the improbable will happen given enough time. The
> improbable is unlikely, not impossible.
>
>
> Roderick S. Beck
> Director of European Sales
> Hibernia Atlantic
> 1, Passage du Chantier, 75012 Paris
> http://www.hiberniaatlantic.com
> Wireless: 1-212-444-8829.
> Landline: 33-1-4346-3209.
> French Wireless: 33-6-14-33-48-97.
> AOL Messenger: GlobalBandwidth
> rod.beck at hiberniaatlantic.com
> rodbeck at erols.com
> ``Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.'' Albert
> Einstein.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ahmed Maged (amaged) [mailto:amaged at cisco.com]
> Sent: Fri 2/1/2008 6:05 PM
> To: Steven M. Bellovin; Martin Hannigan
> Cc: Rod Beck; Hank Nussbacher; Sean Donelan; nanog at merit.edu
> Subject: RE: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption
>
> Doesn't look normal to me that both cables were cut 'accidently'
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog at merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog at merit.edu] On Behalf Of
> Steven M. Bellovin
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 6:49 PM
> To: Martin Hannigan
> Cc: Rod Beck; Hank Nussbacher; Sean Donelan; nanog at merit.edu
> Subject: Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption
>
>
>
> Today's NY Times reports that the problem was caused by two
> near-simultaneous cable failures:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/business/worldbusiness/31cable.html
>
>

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