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hello all,

my employer is planning on the purchase of some juniper routers
(m20's specifically) and i am looking for suggestions on good
books to read (in addition to the docs on their website). i come
from a cisco background and have only minimal knowledge of the
hows/whys of juniper (but am looking forward to learning).

some that looked promising on amazon were:

juniper networks field guide and reference
juniper and cisco routing: policy & protocols for multivendor networks
juniper networks reference guide: junos routing, config, & architecture

the jncia/jncip books look interesting too, but there were no reviews....

thanks

joshua


"Walk with me through the Universe,
And along the way see how all of us are Connected.
Feast the eyes of your Soul,
On the Love that abounds.
In all places at once, seemingly endless,
Like your own existence."
- Stephen Hawking -
juniper books [ In reply to ]
I thoroughly recomend the Juniper Networks reference guide - lots of examples and co-written by Jeff Doyle.

The field guide and reference seems mostly to be duplication of manuals and such like. Useful if you want that sort of information in the one place, but with that you get the lack of verbosity as you get with the online juniper.net material.


Chris

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Smith [mailto:joshua.ej.smith@usa.net]
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 9:31 AM
> To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
> Subject: [j-nsp] juniper books
>
>
> hello all,
>
> my employer is planning on the purchase of some juniper routers
> (m20's specifically) and i am looking for suggestions on good
> books to read (in addition to the docs on their website). i come
> from a cisco background and have only minimal knowledge of the
> hows/whys of juniper (but am looking forward to learning).
>
> some that looked promising on amazon were:
>
> juniper networks field guide and reference
> juniper and cisco routing: policy & protocols for multivendor networks
> juniper networks reference guide: junos routing, config, &
> architecture
>
> the jncia/jncip books look interesting too, but there were no
> reviews....
>
> thanks
>
> joshua
>
>
> "Walk with me through the Universe,
> And along the way see how all of us are Connected.
> Feast the eyes of your Soul,
> On the Love that abounds.
> In all places at once, seemingly endless,
> Like your own existence."
> - Stephen Hawking -
>
>
>
> juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
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juniper books [ In reply to ]
Here are some good Juniper URLs:

Various application notes:
www.juniper.net/techcenter/app_note/

Other articles in the Solutions & Technology Literature section:
www.juniper.net/techcenter/

Detailed step by step how-to documents written by JTAC folks (requires login):
www.juniper.net/support/csc/techdocs/

Knowledge Base by JTAC folks (requires login):
www.juniper.net/kb/

Free Juniper Networks Online Technical Training
Introduction to Configuring JUNOS Internet Software Video
https://www.juniper.net/training/elearning/junos_cli/

Technology Notes, White Papers, Application Notes, Brochures, Customer
Profiles, FAQs, Interoperability Test Papers, Solution Briefs
http://www.juniper.net/techcenter/

Technical Documentation - Software and Hardware
Electronic versions of all documentation
HTML, PDF, Tar, Palm Pilot, CD-ROM TAR, eBook
http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/

Software upgrades, support related info (Login required)
www.juniper.net/support

Technical Documentation Quick Reference Cards (QRC) in PDF
Hardware, Installation, Command-Line Interface, Interfaces, Routing Protocols
www.juniper.net/techpubs/qrc/

Juniper Networks Image Library - Visio Stencils, PPT Icons, etc.
http://www.juniper.net/artwork/

Good Juniper book
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0072194812/junipernetwor-20/102-9300337-3936933

Sign up for the "Juniper Network Service Provider" mailing list @
http://puck.nether.net/lists/

Juniper Networks Technical Certification Program
http://www.juniper.net/training/certification/index.html

JNCIS/JNCIE Certification Preparation Guide
http://www.juniper.net/training/certification/prep_guide.html

Technical Certification Resources
http://www.juniper.net/training/certification/resources.html

Juniper Technical Education Services
http://www.juniper.net/training/education/
juniper books [ In reply to ]
I found the complete reference guide to be very useful in conveying Juniper
behavior and it was also helpful for the JNCIE.

Cody
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joshua Smith" <joshua.ej.smith@usa.net>
To: <juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:30 PM
Subject: [j-nsp] juniper books


hello all,

my employer is planning on the purchase of some juniper routers
(m20's specifically) and i am looking for suggestions on good
books to read (in addition to the docs on their website). i come
from a cisco background and have only minimal knowledge of the
hows/whys of juniper (but am looking forward to learning).

some that looked promising on amazon were:

juniper networks field guide and reference
juniper and cisco routing: policy & protocols for multivendor networks
juniper networks reference guide: junos routing, config, & architecture

the jncia/jncip books look interesting too, but there were no reviews....

thanks

joshua


"Walk with me through the Universe,
And along the way see how all of us are Connected.
Feast the eyes of your Soul,
On the Love that abounds.
In all places at once, seemingly endless,
Like your own existence."
- Stephen Hawking -


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juniper books [ In reply to ]
Hi Joshua,

The field guide and reference is a condensation of the JUNOS, M-series,
and T-series from about 9000 pages into 900 pages. This might provided a
good overview, but we lifted almost all the text straight from the
product documentation, reorganizing or reformatting some of it.

We (Juniper book publishing team) reviewed drafts of the Juniper and
Cisco routing book, and didn't think much of it. But Addison-Wesley
published it anyway. Maybe someone else can give you comments on this
book.

If the third book is the complete reference, this is a good overview of
JUNOS software written by a number of Juniper training and professional
services folks.

The certification books were just released in the last week or two, so
that's probably why there are no reviews. I've only glanced at them, and
they are specifically geared towards the categories of questions on the
JNCIA and JNCIP exams. This means that they are probably very good
product overviews.

We (Juniper) haven't really gotten any multivendor (JUNOS and IOS)
books published yet. For information about what we're doing, see
http://www.juniper.net/training/jnbooks/index.html

Thanks,
..Aviva

--------------------------------
Aviva Garrett
Director, Technical Publications
Juniper Networks, Inc.
(408) 745-2077


In message <576HBZuEx3312S03.1046291449@uwdvg003.cms.usa.net>you write:
> hello all,
>
> my employer is planning on the purchase of some juniper routers
> (m20's specifically) and i am looking for suggestions on good
> books to read (in addition to the docs on their website). i come
> from a cisco background and have only minimal knowledge of the
> hows/whys of juniper (but am looking forward to learning).
>
> some that looked promising on amazon were:
>
> juniper networks field guide and reference
> juniper and cisco routing: policy & protocols for multivendor networks
> juniper networks reference guide: junos routing, config, & architecture
>
> the jncia/jncip books look interesting too, but there were no reviews....
>
> thanks
>
> joshua
>
>
> "Walk with me through the Universe,
> And along the way see how all of us are Connected.
> Feast the eyes of your Soul,
> On the Love that abounds.
> In all places at once, seemingly endless,
> Like your own existence."
> - Stephen Hawking -
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
> http://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
juniper books [ In reply to ]
Hi all,

I've had a cheeky sneak peak at the JNCIP book in early February and it
reads very well. Unfortunately I only had a few minutes to browse through a
few chapters, but it seems like Harry Reynolds (author) has done a great job
showing practical examples with real life lab scenarios. Not only does he
explain how the configuration should be created, but also shows what you
"should" and should not expect the boxes to do. This will undoubtedly help
those of us who need a refresher of how protocols work and are configured,
as well as helping towards obtaining the JNCIP accreditation.

Regards,

Umar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Aviva Garrett [mailto:aviva@juniper.net]
Sent: 26 February 2003 21:39
To: Joshua Smith
Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net; aviva@juniper.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] juniper books


Hi Joshua,

The field guide and reference is a condensation of the JUNOS, M-series,
and T-series from about 9000 pages into 900 pages. This might provided a
good overview, but we lifted almost all the text straight from the
product documentation, reorganizing or reformatting some of it.

We (Juniper book publishing team) reviewed drafts of the Juniper and
Cisco routing book, and didn't think much of it. But Addison-Wesley
published it anyway. Maybe someone else can give you comments on this
book.

If the third book is the complete reference, this is a good overview of
JUNOS software written by a number of Juniper training and professional
services folks.

The certification books were just released in the last week or two, so
that's probably why there are no reviews. I've only glanced at them, and
they are specifically geared towards the categories of questions on the
JNCIA and JNCIP exams. This means that they are probably very good
product overviews.

We (Juniper) haven't really gotten any multivendor (JUNOS and IOS)
books published yet. For information about what we're doing, see
http://www.juniper.net/training/jnbooks/index.html

Thanks,
..Aviva

--------------------------------
Aviva Garrett
Director, Technical Publications
Juniper Networks, Inc.
(408) 745-2077


In message <576HBZuEx3312S03.1046291449@uwdvg003.cms.usa.net>you write:
> hello all,
>
> my employer is planning on the purchase of some juniper routers
> (m20's specifically) and i am looking for suggestions on good
> books to read (in addition to the docs on their website). i come
> from a cisco background and have only minimal knowledge of the
> hows/whys of juniper (but am looking forward to learning).
>
> some that looked promising on amazon were:
>
> juniper networks field guide and reference
> juniper and cisco routing: policy & protocols for multivendor networks
> juniper networks reference guide: junos routing, config, & architecture
>
> the jncia/jncip books look interesting too, but there were no reviews....
>
> thanks
>
> joshua
>
>
> "Walk with me through the Universe,
> And along the way see how all of us are Connected.
> Feast the eyes of your Soul,
> On the Love that abounds.
> In all places at once, seemingly endless,
> Like your own existence."
> - Stephen Hawking -
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
> http://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
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juniper books [ In reply to ]
Hi,

I'm gearing up for the JNCIA/S exams, so have just bought the JNCIA book.
In addition, I have the Complete reference too.

As a history thing, I haven't been that impressed with Sybex revision books
- mainly from a Cisco perspective.
This book however seems to be a step away from the norm - which is quite
refreshing.

A CD is included (like all the similar Cisco Press books for
CCNA/CCDA/CCNP/CCDP).
You get flash cards, 100's of exam questions, study guides, a palm/pocketPC
revision app & the bonus of a pdf covering the entire book (aka Cisco) !

At the front of the book is a detachable pull-out study guide which
recommends reading certain chapters for different parts of the exam, i.e. a
hint at what you will be tested on maybe ????
Book is split into sections (naturally) which run through the following;

Chapter 1: The Components of a Juniper Networks Router
Chapter 2: Interfaces
Chapter 3: Protocol-Independent Routing
Chapter 4: Routing Policy
Chapter 5: The Routing Information Protocol (RIP)
Chapter 6: Open Shortest Path First (OSPF)
Chapter 7: Intermediate System to Intermediate System (IS-IS)
Chapter 8: Border Gateway Protocol (BGP)
Chapter 9: Multicast
Chapter 10: Firewall Filters
Chapter 11: Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS)


Differences between the JNCIA and the Complete ref are;

JNCIA has multicast.
JNCIA has CD.
Complete ref has a lot more about the 'boxes'.
Complete ref has intro to VPN (but not much).
Complete ref is a lot heavier.
Complete ref has more configuration examples.

If you're thinking of revising (and if you haven't got the complete ref)
then this is the book to go for.
Combine this with Routing TCP/IP, a glance through the most excellent
Juniper tech pdf's, hands-on the box and the Boson software exam guides
(http://www.boson.com/tests/juniper.htm - VERY good) and you should breeze
through..


On the whole I am impressed with the book, but give me a little more time
and I'll come back and tell you more.
I'm also reading the Multicast book for Cisco & Juniper, boy I know how to
have fun !

Oh, and if you are in the UK/Europe then its listed on Amazon today at
?26.59, a steal.
Alternatively there is a deal for JNCIA & JNCIP for ?66.12.
(can seem to get the JNCIS yet..................)

Neil.

-----Original Message-----
From: Umar Ahmed [mailto:Umar.Ahmed@equinoxsolutions.com]
Sent: 27 February 2003 08:34
To: 'Aviva Garrett'; Joshua Smith
Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [j-nsp] juniper books


Hi all,

I've had a cheeky sneak peak at the JNCIP book in early February and it
reads very well. Unfortunately I only had a few minutes to browse through a
few chapters, but it seems like Harry Reynolds (author) has done a great job
showing practical examples with real life lab scenarios. Not only does he
explain how the configuration should be created, but also shows what you
"should" and should not expect the boxes to do. This will undoubtedly help
those of us who need a refresher of how protocols work and are configured,
as well as helping towards obtaining the JNCIP accreditation.

Regards,

Umar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Aviva Garrett [mailto:aviva@juniper.net]
Sent: 26 February 2003 21:39
To: Joshua Smith
Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net; aviva@juniper.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] juniper books


Hi Joshua,

The field guide and reference is a condensation of the JUNOS, M-series,
and T-series from about 9000 pages into 900 pages. This might provided a
good overview, but we lifted almost all the text straight from the
product documentation, reorganizing or reformatting some of it.

We (Juniper book publishing team) reviewed drafts of the Juniper and
Cisco routing book, and didn't think much of it. But Addison-Wesley
published it anyway. Maybe someone else can give you comments on this
book.

If the third book is the complete reference, this is a good overview of
JUNOS software written by a number of Juniper training and professional
services folks.

The certification books were just released in the last week or two, so
that's probably why there are no reviews. I've only glanced at them, and
they are specifically geared towards the categories of questions on the
JNCIA and JNCIP exams. This means that they are probably very good
product overviews.

We (Juniper) haven't really gotten any multivendor (JUNOS and IOS)
books published yet. For information about what we're doing, see
http://www.juniper.net/training/jnbooks/index.html

Thanks,
..Aviva

--------------------------------
Aviva Garrett
Director, Technical Publications
Juniper Networks, Inc.
(408) 745-2077


In message <576HBZuEx3312S03.1046291449@uwdvg003.cms.usa.net>you write:
> hello all,
>
> my employer is planning on the purchase of some juniper routers
> (m20's specifically) and i am looking for suggestions on good
> books to read (in addition to the docs on their website). i come
> from a cisco background and have only minimal knowledge of the
> hows/whys of juniper (but am looking forward to learning).
>
> some that looked promising on amazon were:
>
> juniper networks field guide and reference
> juniper and cisco routing: policy & protocols for multivendor networks
> juniper networks reference guide: junos routing, config, & architecture
>
> the jncia/jncip books look interesting too, but there were no reviews....
>
> thanks
>
> joshua
>
>
> "Walk with me through the Universe,
> And along the way see how all of us are Connected.
> Feast the eyes of your Soul,
> On the Love that abounds.
> In all places at once, seemingly endless,
> Like your own existence."
> - Stephen Hawking -
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
> http://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
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juniper books [ In reply to ]
Joshua,

I should clear up one thing. Since you did not include authors, I think
I might have misspoke about one of the books. The book we reviewed and
weren't thrilled with was "Juniper Networks Reference Guide," with Tom
Thomas as the lead author.

Thanks,
..Aviva

In message <200302262139.h1QLdJS92301@merlot.juniper.net>you write:
> Hi Joshua,
>
> The field guide and reference is a condensation of the JUNOS, M-series,
> and T-series from about 9000 pages into 900 pages. This might provided a
> good overview, but we lifted almost all the text straight from the
> product documentation, reorganizing or reformatting some of it.
>
> We (Juniper book publishing team) reviewed drafts of the Juniper and
> Cisco routing book, and didn't think much of it. But Addison-Wesley
> published it anyway. Maybe someone else can give you comments on this
> book.
>
> If the third book is the complete reference, this is a good overview of
> JUNOS software written by a number of Juniper training and professional
> services folks.
>
> The certification books were just released in the last week or two, so
> that's probably why there are no reviews. I've only glanced at them, and
> they are specifically geared towards the categories of questions on the
> JNCIA and JNCIP exams. This means that they are probably very good
> product overviews.
>
> We (Juniper) haven't really gotten any multivendor (JUNOS and IOS)
> books published yet. For information about what we're doing, see
> http://www.juniper.net/training/jnbooks/index.html
>
> Thanks,
> ..Aviva
>
> --------------------------------
> Aviva Garrett
> Director, Technical Publications
> Juniper Networks, Inc.
> (408) 745-2077
>
>
> In message <576HBZuEx3312S03.1046291449@uwdvg003.cms.usa.net>you write:
> > hello all,
> >
> > my employer is planning on the purchase of some juniper routers
> > (m20's specifically) and i am looking for suggestions on good
> > books to read (in addition to the docs on their website). i come
> > from a cisco background and have only minimal knowledge of the
> > hows/whys of juniper (but am looking forward to learning).
> >
> > some that looked promising on amazon were:
> >
> > juniper networks field guide and reference
> > juniper and cisco routing: policy & protocols for multivendor networks
> > juniper networks reference guide: junos routing, config, & architecture
> >
> > the jncia/jncip books look interesting too, but there were no reviews....
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > joshua
> >
> >
> > "Walk with me through the Universe,
> > And along the way see how all of us are Connected.
> > Feast the eyes of your Soul,
> > On the Love that abounds.
> > In all places at once, seemingly endless,
> > Like your own existence."
> > - Stephen Hawking -
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
> > http://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
juniper books [ In reply to ]
<Disclaimer>
I have a bit of a biased opinion here! ;-)
</Disclaimer>

>>This book however seems to be a step away from the norm - which is quite refreshing.
Thanks. We tried to make this an excellent reference book as well as cover all of the information you need for the JNCIA exam.

>>At the front of the book is a detachable pull-out study guide which recommends reading certain chapters for different parts of the >>exam, i.e. a hint at what you will be tested on maybe ????
An interesting and quite insightful comment!! ;-)

>>On the whole I am impressed with the book, but give me a little more time and I'll come back and tell you more.
Well, thanks. I hope that your good impressions continue throughout the entire book.

>>(can seem to get the JNCIS yet..................)
Jeez, give me some time!

On a serious note, let me say a few words about the study guide series. While all four of the books (JNCIS and JNCIE are coming!) work together as a set, they can also be split into two groups.

The JNCIA/JNCIS books cover the written exams and contain the background, history, theories, packet formats, configuration knobs, etc. for all of the protocols and features supported in the JUNOS software. Like the exams themselves, the JNCIA book covers the basics of each topic, while the JNCIS covers many of the same topics from an advanced viewpoint (it also has some additional topics not covered in the JNCIA book). The network maps and configuration examples in these two books are shown only to the extent of illustrating a specific function or aspect of a protocol.

The JNCIP/JNCIE books cover the hands-on exams and contain complex examples of the protocols interacting with each other. Complete configurations and maps are included to aid your development and troubleshooting. In a way, these books can be used to "practice" when you have little or no time on real equipment.

So, I hope that you enjoy the read and find the information useful. While it isn't finished yet, I'm still planning on using the www.corerouting.net website (my site - not affiliated /w Sybex) as a clearinghouse for known errata, resource center (maybe full configuration examples), and a way to contact the authors.

Thanks,
Joe Soricelli


-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Stirling [mailto:neil.stirling@nortelnetworks.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 4:44 AM
To: 'Umar Ahmed'; Aviva Garrett; Joshua Smith
Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [j-nsp] juniper books



Hi,

I'm gearing up for the JNCIA/S exams, so have just bought the JNCIA book.
In addition, I have the Complete reference too.

As a history thing, I haven't been that impressed with Sybex revision books - mainly from a Cisco perspective.
This book however seems to be a step away from the norm - which is quite refreshing.

A CD is included (like all the similar Cisco Press books for CCNA/CCDA/CCNP/CCDP).
You get flash cards, 100's of exam questions, study guides, a palm/pocketPC revision app & the bonus of a pdf covering the entire book (aka Cisco) !

At the front of the book is a detachable pull-out study guide which recommends reading certain chapters for different parts of the exam, i.e. a hint at what you will be tested on maybe ????

Book is split into sections (naturally) which run through the following;

Chapter 1: The Components of a Juniper Networks Router
Chapter 2: Interfaces
Chapter 3: Protocol-Independent Routing
Chapter 4: Routing Policy
Chapter 5: The Routing Information Protocol (RIP)
Chapter 6: Open Shortest Path First (OSPF)
Chapter 7: Intermediate System to Intermediate System (IS-IS)
Chapter 8: Border Gateway Protocol (BGP)
Chapter 9: Multicast
Chapter 10: Firewall Filters
Chapter 11: Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS)


Differences between the JNCIA and the Complete ref are;

JNCIA has multicast.
JNCIA has CD.
Complete ref has a lot more about the 'boxes'.
Complete ref has intro to VPN (but not much).
Complete ref is a lot heavier.
Complete ref has more configuration examples.

If you're thinking of revising (and if you haven't got the complete ref) then this is the book to go for.
Combine this with Routing TCP/IP, a glance through the most excellent Juniper tech pdf's, hands-on the box and the Boson software exam guides (http://www.boson.com/tests/juniper.htm - VERY good) and you should breeze through..


On the whole I am impressed with the book, but give me a little more time and I'll come back and tell you more.
I'm also reading the Multicast book for Cisco & Juniper, boy I know how to have fun !

Oh, and if you are in the UK/Europe then its listed on Amazon today at ?26.59, a steal.
Alternatively there is a deal for JNCIA & JNCIP for ?66.12.
(can seem to get the JNCIS yet..................)

Neil.

-----Original Message-----
From: Umar Ahmed [mailto:Umar.Ahmed@equinoxsolutions.com]
Sent: 27 February 2003 08:34
To: 'Aviva Garrett'; Joshua Smith
Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [j-nsp] juniper books


Hi all,

I've had a cheeky sneak peak at the JNCIP book in early February and it
reads very well. Unfortunately I only had a few minutes to browse through a
few chapters, but it seems like Harry Reynolds (author) has done a great job
showing practical examples with real life lab scenarios. Not only does he
explain how the configuration should be created, but also shows what you
"should" and should not expect the boxes to do. This will undoubtedly help
those of us who need a refresher of how protocols work and are configured,
as well as helping towards obtaining the JNCIP accreditation.

Regards,

Umar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Aviva Garrett [mailto:aviva@juniper.net]
Sent: 26 February 2003 21:39
To: Joshua Smith
Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net; aviva@juniper.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] juniper books


Hi Joshua,

The field guide and reference is a condensation of the JUNOS, M-series,
and T-series from about 9000 pages into 900 pages. This might provided a
good overview, but we lifted almost all the text straight from the
product documentation, reorganizing or reformatting some of it.

We (Juniper book publishing team) reviewed drafts of the Juniper and
Cisco routing book, and didn't think much of it. But Addison-Wesley
published it anyway. Maybe someone else can give you comments on this
book.

If the third book is the complete reference, this is a good overview of
JUNOS software written by a number of Juniper training and professional
services folks.

The certification books were just released in the last week or two, so
that's probably why there are no reviews. I've only glanced at them, and
they are specifically geared towards the categories of questions on the
JNCIA and JNCIP exams. This means that they are probably very good
product overviews.

We (Juniper) haven't really gotten any multivendor (JUNOS and IOS)
books published yet. For information about what we're doing, see
http://www.juniper.net/training/jnbooks/index.html

Thanks,
..Aviva

--------------------------------
Aviva Garrett
Director, Technical Publications
Juniper Networks, Inc.
(408) 745-2077


In message <576HBZuEx3312S03.1046291449@uwdvg003.cms.usa.net>you write:
> hello all,
>
> my employer is planning on the purchase of some juniper routers
> (m20's specifically) and i am looking for suggestions on good
> books to read (in addition to the docs on their website). i come
> from a cisco background and have only minimal knowledge of the
> hows/whys of juniper (but am looking forward to learning).
>
> some that looked promising on amazon were:
>
> juniper networks field guide and reference
> juniper and cisco routing: policy & protocols for multivendor networks
> juniper networks reference guide: junos routing, config, & architecture
>
> the jncia/jncip books look interesting too, but there were no reviews....
>
> thanks
>
> joshua
>
>
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juniper books [ In reply to ]
Josh,

If your network supports multicast or you have plans to support it, I
recommend the multicast book (Interdomain Multicast Routing, by Edwards,
Giuliano and Wright). I had always had trouble grasping the finer points of
multicast, but this book gave me the necessary understanding of the
protocols both at the conceptual and practical level.

The book discusses theory and gives practical real-world configs examples
for both Juniper and Cisco routers (which will help the jump from Cisco to
Juniper). All around its one of the better practical technical books I've
read. The MSDP and the SSM chapters in particular are clear sources of info
for these protocols, and the explanation of the MSDP RPF rules alone is
worth the book's purchase.

Cheers,
Steve

"Joshua Smith" <joshua.ej.smith@usa.net> wrote in message
news:576HBZuEx3312S03.1046291449@uwdvg003.cms.usa.net...
> hello all,
>
> my employer is planning on the purchase of some juniper routers
> (m20's specifically) and i am looking for suggestions on good
> books to read (in addition to the docs on their website). i come
> from a cisco background and have only minimal knowledge of the
> hows/whys of juniper (but am looking forward to learning).
>
> some that looked promising on amazon were:
>
> juniper networks field guide and reference
> juniper and cisco routing: policy & protocols for multivendor networks
> juniper networks reference guide: junos routing, config, & architecture
>
> the jncia/jncip books look interesting too, but there were no reviews....
>
> thanks
>
> joshua
>
>
> "Walk with me through the Universe,
> And along the way see how all of us are Connected.
> Feast the eyes of your Soul,
> On the Love that abounds.
> In all places at once, seemingly endless,
> Like your own existence."
> - Stephen Hawking -
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
> http://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp


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