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Re: Summit450X - strange IGMP-snooping on port connected to Linux server?
Hi,
I am running a Juniper M10 as Multicast router in my network. It automatically becomes the DR of the "VLAN" as the Linux server is situated on. I also have other Linux servers on that switch in the same VLAN and IGMP-snooping is working for them.

They are running RedHat and not Suse though. They are not listed as "Router" by the Summit450X.

When doing a tcpdump on my Linux server I do not see any traffic going to 224.0.0.2 (all routers) so I don't understand why the switch lists that Linux as a router. Really strange...

BR
/// Fredrik



From: MLouis@nwnit.com
To: fabian.extr@gmail.com; extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:10:44 -0400
Subject: Re: [e-nsp] Summit450X - strange IGMP-snooping on port connected to Linux server?











In my experience, IGMP snooping will not work unless the layer 2 switch snoops the client report. Meaning you have to have clients who want to join a group sending IGMP join reports that the switch
can snoop. This usually requires that something be performing the quierier process, ie a multicast enabled router. 224.0.0.2 is all routers MC address. Enable PIM on the router and see if IGMP snooping works.


From: extreme-nsp-bounces@puck.nether.net [extreme-nsp-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Fabian [fabian.extr@gmail.com]

Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 7:28 AM

To: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net

Subject: Re: [e-nsp] Summit450X - strange IGMP-snooping on port connected to Linux server?







Hi Frederik,

If your server is considered as a Router, that means that it is advertising on multicast address :
224.0.0.2

So do a TCPDUMP to check if so and verify if you don’t have a router feature enabled.

Regards, Fabian.



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On Behalf Of F J

Sent: mardi 16 septembre 2008 12:26

To: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net

Subject: Re: [e-nsp] Summit450X - strange IGMP-snooping on port connected to Linux server?



Hi,

Thanks for your answer. But isn't the BCR and CBSR config only important if

you are running the Switch in layer3?



I am only using it as a layer2 switch.



I still think that it is strange that the switch is considering this server as being

a "router" when running the show commands. There must be some critera for

the switch to do that or?



More info about this Linux server:

My Linux server is running JBoss and I see some IGMP-join packages to going to

224.0.0.75 and 228.30.4.76 when starting up.



Best Regards

/// Fredrik













Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:52:02 +0300

From: napstertash@gmail.com

To: ripprapp@hotmail.com

Subject: Re: [e-nsp] Summit450X - strange IGMP-snooping on port connected to Linux server?

CC: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net





Hello FJ,

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 8:21 AM, F J <ripprapp@hotmail.com> wrote:



Hi,

I am using a Summit450X as a layer2 switch in my multicast network.

I am using PIM SM on my routers and I am running IGMP snooping on my layer2 switches.



On this 450X-switch I have a HP server runnning Linux connected to port 21.



When running some show commands (see below) it looks like the switch thinks that the


server is a router? And that it should get all Multicast streams?





You might have to play a lot more with the priorities so you figure this out, I would think.










Can anyone explain what is causing this?






I think the answer might be between the configuration settings you have got for both the BSR and CBSR.








Is my switch misconfigured or is my server doing something strange?

What is the criteria for being listed as a router by the switch?



Port 45 is connected to the closest router.



Any ideas of what could be causing this kind of behaviour is appreciated!






If you don't want this box to participate the the multicast traffic then I would suggest you remove that port form the selected list, OR make the specified port that you
want to be the BSR by using the priorities.





Hope it helps.





Regards










Best Regards

Fredrik



X450a-48tdc.19 # sh igmp snooping

Vlan Vid Port #Senders #Receivers Router Enable

--------------------------------------------------------------

SN102 164 6 Yes

19 2 No

20 5 No

21 3 Yes

45 0 Yes



VLAN SN102 (164) Snooping=Enabled

Group Sender Age

239.1.1.1
10.21.65.5 14

239.1.1.2
10.21.65.5 10

228.0.198.75
10.21.64.4 25

228.0.198.76
10.21.64.4 13

228.0.198.77
10.21.64.4 13

5 Incoming multicast streams



Port Host Subscribed Age

19 10.21.64.2
225.10.10.10 66

19 10.21.64.2
226.10.10.10 63

20 10.21.64.3
224.2.127.254 67

20 10.21.64.3
224.2.127.255 69

20 10.21.64.3
234.5.6.7 63

20 10.21.64.3
239.1.1.1 64

20 10.21.64.3
239.1.1.2 61

21 10.21.64.4
228.0.198.75 68

21 10.21.64.4
228.0.198.76 63

21 10.21.64.4
228.0.198.77 60

21 10.21.64.4 All Groups 69


45 10.21.64.1 All Groups 1









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Re: Summit450X - strange IGMP-snooping on port connected to Linux server? [ In reply to ]
Hey

Check if the server is sending out any control protocol or routing
protocols or any other packet that you expect only a router to send. I
really dont know the list, but as you suggested there are few protocol
packets, observing which the L2 box assumes that there is a router on
the other end....

regards,
shankar


On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 6:24 PM, F J <ripprapp@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> I am running a Juniper M10 as Multicast router in my network. It
> automatically becomes the DR of the "VLAN" as the Linux server is situated
> on. I also have other Linux servers on that switch in the same VLAN and
> IGMP-snooping is working for them.
>
> They are running RedHat and not Suse though. They are not listed as "Router"
> by the Summit450X.
>
> When doing a tcpdump on my Linux server I do not see any traffic going to
> 224.0.0.2 (all routers) so I don't understand why the switch lists that
> Linux as a router. Really strange...
>
> BR
> /// Fredrik
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: MLouis@nwnit.com
> To: fabian.extr@gmail.com; extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net
> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:10:44 -0400
> Subject: Re: [e-nsp] Summit450X - strange IGMP-snooping on port connected to
> Linux server?
>
> In my experience, IGMP snooping will not work unless the layer 2 switch
> snoops the client report. Meaning you have to have clients who want to join
> a group sending IGMP join reports that the switch can snoop. This usually
> requires that something be performing the quierier process, ie a multicast
> enabled router. 224.0.0.2 is all routers MC address. Enable PIM on the
> router and see if IGMP snooping works.
> ________________________________
> From: extreme-nsp-bounces@puck.nether.net
> [extreme-nsp-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Fabian
> [fabian.extr@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 7:28 AM
> To: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [e-nsp] Summit450X - strange IGMP-snooping on port connected to
> Linux server?
>
> Hi Frederik,
>
>
>
> If your server is considered as a Router, that means that it is advertising
> on multicast address : 224.0.0.2
>
>
>
> So do a TCPDUMP to check if so and verify if you don't have a router feature
> enabled.
>
>
>
> Regards, Fabian.
>
>
>
> From: extreme-nsp-bounces@puck.nether.net
> [mailto:extreme-nsp-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of F J
> Sent: mardi 16 septembre 2008 12:26
> To: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [e-nsp] Summit450X - strange IGMP-snooping on port connected to
> Linux server?
>
>
>
> Hi,
> Thanks for your answer. But isn't the BCR and CBSR config only important if
> you are running the Switch in layer3?
>
> I am only using it as a layer2 switch.
>
> I still think that it is strange that the switch is considering this server
> as being
> a "router" when running the show commands. There must be some critera for
> the switch to do that or?
>
> More info about this Linux server:
> My Linux server is running JBoss and I see some IGMP-join packages to going
> to
> 224.0.0.75 and 228.30.4.76 when starting up.
>
> Best Regards
> /// Fredrik
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:52:02 +0300
> From: napstertash@gmail.com
> To: ripprapp@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [e-nsp] Summit450X - strange IGMP-snooping on port connected to
> Linux server?
> CC: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net
>
> Hello FJ,
>
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 8:21 AM, F J <ripprapp@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I am using a Summit450X as a layer2 switch in my multicast network.
> I am using PIM SM on my routers and I am running IGMP snooping on my layer2
> switches.
>
> On this 450X-switch I have a HP server runnning Linux connected to port 21.
>
> When running some show commands (see below) it looks like the switch thinks
> that the
> server is a router? And that it should get all Multicast streams?
>
>
>
> You might have to play a lot more with the priorities so you figure this
> out, I would think.
>
>
>
> Can anyone explain what is causing this?
>
>
>
> I think the answer might be between the configuration settings you have got
> for both the BSR and CBSR.
>
>
>
> Is my switch misconfigured or is my server doing something strange?
> What is the criteria for being listed as a router by the switch?
>
> Port 45 is connected to the closest router.
>
> Any ideas of what could be causing this kind of behaviour is appreciated!
>
>
>
> If you don't want this box to participate the the multicast traffic then I
> would suggest you remove that port form the selected list, OR make the
> specified port that you want to be the BSR by using the priorities.
>
>
>
> Hope it helps.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Best Regards
> Fredrik
>
> X450a-48tdc.19 # sh igmp snooping
> Vlan Vid Port #Senders #Receivers Router Enable
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> SN102 164 6 Yes
> 19 2 No
> 20 5 No
> 21 3 Yes
> 45 0 Yes
>
> VLAN SN102 (164) Snooping=Enabled
> Group Sender Age
> 239.1.1.1 10.21.65.5 14
> 239.1.1.2 10.21.65.5 10
> 228.0.198.75 10.21.64.4 25
> 228.0.198.76 10.21.64.4 13
> 228.0.198.77 10.21.64.4 13
> 5 Incoming multicast streams
>
> Port Host Subscribed Age
> 19 10.21.64.2 225.10.10.10 66
> 19 10.21.64.2 226.10.10.10 63
> 20 10.21.64.3 224.2.127.254 67
> 20 10.21.64.3 224.2.127.255 69
> 20 10.21.64.3 234.5.6.7 63
> 20 10.21.64.3 239.1.1.1 64
> 20 10.21.64.3 239.1.1.2 61
> 21 10.21.64.4 228.0.198.75 68
> 21 10.21.64.4 228.0.198.76 63
> 21 10.21.64.4 228.0.198.77 60
> 21 10.21.64.4 All Groups 69
> 45 10.21.64.1 All Groups 1
>
>
>
>
>
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