Mailing List Archive: NANOG Summary

Here is a summary of recent events on NANOG
regarding Root Name Server problems.

1. People are complaining about Root Name Server
corruption, etc.

2. Some people hypothesize that people unhappy
with the IAHC outcome are causing trouble.

3. During that discussion, someone noted they could
not get to the server run by Paul Vixie.

4. I asked if Paul "filters" traffic to that server. No answer.

5. A few people tried to twist that and to take a simple
question regarding filtering and make more
out of it. Paul finally sort of admitted that
he filters a small percentage.

6. I summarized the situation and noted that the IANA
and Network Solutions were making changes
to the Root Name Server arrangements and
suggested, that could be the cause of the
problems noted in #1 above.

7. George Herbert claimed these changes have
corrupted the H root server and that these
changes should cease and desist.

8. I pointed out that Jon Postel (the IANA) is making
those changes....

...now there is silence at NANOG...I guess all of the
Root Name Server problems have either disappeared
or have been solved....

--
Jim Fleming
Unir Corporation

e-mail:
JimFleming@unety.net
JimFleming@unety.s0.g0 (EDNS/IPv8)

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>Here is a summary of recent events on NANOG
>regarding Root Name Server problems.
>
>1. People are complaining about Root Name Server
> corruption, etc.

Matthew Kaufman @ scruznet, primarily.

>2. Some people hypothesize that people unhappy
> with the IAHC outcome are causing trouble.
>
>3. During that discussion, someone noted they could
> not get to the server run by Paul Vixie.

No, this was Matthew in the initial diagnostics of the problem.

>4. I asked if Paul "filters" traffic to that server. No answer.
>
>5. A few people tried to twist that and to take a simple
> question regarding filtering and make more
> out of it. Paul finally sort of admitted that
> he filters a small percentage.
>
>6. I summarized the situation and noted that the IANA
> and Network Solutions were making changes
> to the Root Name Server arrangements and
> suggested, that could be the cause of the
> problems noted in #1 above.
>
>7. George Herbert claimed these changes have
> corrupted the H root server and that these
> changes should cease and desist.

You're missing some steps here, Jim.

At least as they hit my mail server, there were a couple of more
of your postings about *your* alternative root servers that arrived
in the midst of this. Pardon me if I ran threads together, but it's
a bit hard to sort them out all the time.

>8. I pointed out that Jon Postel (the IANA) is making
> those changes....

...and if the only major changes of note were Jon's introduction
of the new root-servers.net machines, then my comments about your
activity are of course moot. I was under the impression from
what you now seem to be claiming were unrelated postings that
you'd made changes with your "roots" as well. If that is not
in fact correct, then there is no issue here.

>...now there is silence at NANOG...I guess all of the
>Root Name Server problems have either disappeared
>or have been solved....

I think Matthew's problems (and anyone else pinging h.root-servers.net
over the downtime period) went away promptly after he got ahold of the
right person to reboot the machine, as was also discussed on the nanog
list the day after it all started. Some days ago now. Nobody else has
reported new problems since then, though there has been on and off
discussion about it.

So yes, it appears that all the Root Name Server problems dissapeared
or were solved.

-george william herbert
gherbert@crl.com

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