Mailing List Archive: Have we started to chop up the B-space into /24's.

Have we started to chop up the B-space into /24's.

Jan 30, 1996, 4:56 PM

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Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 17:50:09 +0000
From: William griffin <wgriffin@mci.net>
To: insc@sprintlink.net
Cc: trouble@mci.net, pp000314@interamp.com
Subject: route not being advertised

We have a customer with the following address: 164.103.3.0/24 and it seems
that you are not accepting our advertising of it. Could you please adv.

--
The darkness illuminates the light.

William Griffin
Network Engineer
wgriffin@mci.net
(800)977-4662

Re: Have we started to chop up the B-space into /24's. [ In reply to ]

ipasha at ulysses

Jan 30, 1996, 10:44 AM

Post #2 of 5 (790 views)

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As I recall, at some point Internic was handing out subnets
of old class B space and reserving the remaining subnets for the same
organisation. If that's the case here then, 164.103.0.0/16
should be advertised sprintlink instead of 164.103.3.0/24.

--Ismat

On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, Peter Lothberg wrote:

>
> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 17:50:09 +0000
> From: William griffin <wgriffin@mci.net>
> To: insc@sprintlink.net
> Cc: trouble@mci.net, pp000314@interamp.com
> Subject: route not being advertised
>
> We have a customer with the following address: 164.103.3.0/24 and it seems
> that you are not accepting our advertising of it. Could you please adv.
>
> --
> The darkness illuminates the light.
>
> William Griffin
> Network Engineer
> wgriffin@mci.net
> (800)977-4662
>
>

Re: Have we started to chop up the B-space into /24's. [ In reply to ]

GAVRON at ACES

Jan 30, 1996, 11:47 AM

Post #3 of 5 (785 views)

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>As I recall, at some point Internic was handing out subnets
>of old class B space and reserving the remaining subnets for the same
>organisation. If that's the case here then, 164.103.0.0/16
>should be advertised sprintlink instead of 164.103.3.0/24.

Nice thought, except it doesn't work in practice.
We have 169.197.0/18. When we advertise it, Sean's
filters prevent ICM/ICP from getting it. When we
mis-advertise it as /16 the filter lets us through.

My two messages to INSC, 2 to engineer@sl, and 4 to Sean
didn't generate any solutions, so what makes you think
it will work for 164.103.3.0/24?

> --Ismat

Ehud

Re: Have we started to chop up the B-space into /24's. [ In reply to ]

bwatson at mci

Jan 30, 1996, 5:01 PM

Post #4 of 5 (784 views)

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the customer owns the whole /16 but for some reason they only announce this
/24.

-brett

> At 04:56 PM 1/30/96 MET, Peter Lothberg wrote:
>
> >
> >Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 17:50:09 +0000
> >From: William griffin <wgriffin@mci.net>
> >To: insc@sprintlink.net
> >Cc: trouble@mci.net, pp000314@interamp.com
> >Subject: route not being advertised
> >
> >We have a customer with the following address: 164.103.3.0/24 and it seems
> >that you are not accepting our advertising of it. Could you please adv.
> >
> >--
> >The darkness illuminates the light.
> >
> >William Griffin
> >Network Engineer
> >wgriffin@mci.net
> >(800)977-4662
> >
> >
>
> Hmm.
>
> According to WHOIS, 164.103/16 appears to belong to:
>
> % whois 164.103
> Telecommunications Department of Information Systems (NET-IPAPER)
> International Paper
> Southwind Computer Center
> 3232 Players Club Parkway
> Memphis, TN 38125
>
> Netname: IPAPER
> Netnumber: 164.103.0.0
>
> Coordinator:
> Harrison, Donald R. (DRH37) PP000314@INTERRAMP.COM
> (901) 748-5459 (FAX) (901) 748-5401
>
> Record last updated on 08-Feb-93.
>
> The InterNIC Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet Information
> (Networks, ASN's, Domains, and POC's).
> Please use the whois server at nic.ddn.mil for MILNET Information.
>
> - paul
>

Re: Have we started to chop up the B-space into /24's. [ In reply to ]

bwatson at mci

Jan 30, 1996, 5:08 PM

Post #5 of 5 (784 views)

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the problem is that sprint is filtering this announcement per sean's policy.

-brett

>
> Hmm:
>
> Well since the Net 39 experiment proved that it is ok to chop
> larger class-full address block into smaller class-less address
> blocks, why not.
>
> --jon.
>
>
> From list-admin@merit.edu Tue Jan 30 08:19:07 1996
> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 96 16:56:54 MET
> From: Peter Lothberg <roll@stupi.se>
> To: nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: Have we started to chop up the B-space into /24's.
>
>
> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 17:50:09 +0000
> From: William griffin <wgriffin@mci.net>
> To: insc@sprintlink.net
> Cc: trouble@mci.net, pp000314@interamp.com
> Subject: route not being advertised
>
> We have a customer with the following address: 164.103.3.0/24 and it seems
> that you are not accepting our advertising of it. Could you please adv.
>
> --
> The darkness illuminates the light.
>
> William Griffin
> Network Engineer
> wgriffin@mci.net
> (800)977-4662
>
>
> % whois 164.103.0.0
>
> Telecommunications Department of Information Systems (NET-IPAPER)
> International Paper
> Southwind Computer Center
> 3232 Players Club Parkway
> Memphis, TN 38125
>
> Netname: IPAPER
> Netnumber: 164.103.0.0
>
> Coordinator:
> Harrison, Donald R. (DRH37) PP000314@INTERRAMP.COM
> (901) 748-5459 (FAX) (901) 748-5401
>
> Record last updated on 08-Feb-93.