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Concerning 192.x.x.x and routing
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From: "John S. Pinnow" <jspinnow@allmalt.cs.uwm.edu>
Subject: Concerning 192.x.x.x and routing
To: paul.weber@mci.com, jeff@UWM.EDU, EJNORMAN@MACC.WISC.EDU,
hostmaster@cic.net, JKRey@ISI.EDU
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 14:29:30 -0600 (CST)
Cc: jspinnow@allmalt.cs.uwm.edu (John S. Pinnow)

I am trying to reach 192.135.135.1 and I know it is up. They are
trying to get out with no success.

Now every time I trying to telnet,rlogin,ftp to this place. The packets
are sent down the wrong route.

192.135.135.1 is supposed to hop on to wiscnet.net and make its way
to csdnb.csd.mu.edu and then route over via that server. This is not
happening.

From serveral accounts I tried. Each funneling the packets down mci net.

Interesting enough I tried random destinations on the 192.x.x.x network
and they all want to wrote the same way. I think something is funny here.

Someone along the line has some weird mask set that is funneling the
whole 192 net down a pipe that it may not have to travel threw.

traceroute to csdnb.csd.mu.edu. It makes it fine. Thats where the
192.135.135.x packets are destined for, but they never get there.


Now... I ask you kindly to research this. I already got a message
to contact whois 192.135.135. Now don't give me that. I know the administrator
and he is just as puzzled as I am about this mess. They can't get out
and I can't get back in. I am a bit frustrated.

If you kindly give me information on who to contact to get this routing
mess back under control, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thank you for assistance!
--
John S. Pinnow `net:jspinnow@cs.uwm.edu ` Home Voice: [414] 761-1537
My opinions are not that of UWM, I am not operating in any official compacity


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From: John Stewart Pinnow <jspinnow@winternet.com>
Subject: Why?
To: JKRey@ISI.EDU
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 21:09:18 -0600 (CST)
Content-Type: text
Content-Length: 838



%/usr/etc/traceroute 192.135.135.1
traceroute to 192.135.135.1 (192.135.135.1), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 winternet-gw.winternet.com (198.174.169.254) 8 ms 24 ms 41 ms
2 mrnet-Winternet1.MR.Net (137.192.18.1) 55 ms 13 ms 34 ms
3 MIXNet-gw.MR.Net (137.192.241.254) 49 ms 69 ms 41 ms
4 192.168.168.5 (192.168.168.5) 43 ms 56 ms 55 ms
5 border3-hssi1-0.Chicago.mci.net (204.70.26.5) 177 ms 189 ms 162 ms
6 *

Why is 192.135.135.x routing down threw MCINET????? it should be
routing to wiscnet and then to csdnb.csd.mu.edu
--
John S. Pinnow|net:jspinnow@cs.uwm.edu |Home Voice: [414] 761-1537
<=T=> TR <=R=>| jspinnow@world.std.com|Voice Mail: [414] 287-5252
Milwaukee, WI | jspinnow@winternet.com|http://www.uwm.edu/~jspinnow
Disclaimer----> The views expressed are not necessarily those of U.W.M


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Re: Concerning 192.x.x.x and routing [ In reply to ]
Jon, I don't know why you were copied on this, but this was an internal
WISCnet issue and has been resolved.

-dorian

On Mon, 8 Jan 1996 postel@ISI.EDU wrote:

>
> ----- Begin Included Message -----
>
> From: "John S. Pinnow" <jspinnow@allmalt.cs.uwm.edu>
> Subject: Concerning 192.x.x.x and routing
> To: paul.weber@mci.com, jeff@UWM.EDU, EJNORMAN@MACC.WISC.EDU,
> hostmaster@cic.net, JKRey@ISI.EDU
> Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 14:29:30 -0600 (CST)
> Cc: jspinnow@allmalt.cs.uwm.edu (John S. Pinnow)
>
> I am trying to reach 192.135.135.1 and I know it is up. They are
> trying to get out with no success.
>
> Now every time I trying to telnet,rlogin,ftp to this place. The packets
> are sent down the wrong route.
>
> 192.135.135.1 is supposed to hop on to wiscnet.net and make its way
> to csdnb.csd.mu.edu and then route over via that server. This is not
> happening.
>
> >From serveral accounts I tried. Each funneling the packets down mci net.
>
> Interesting enough I tried random destinations on the 192.x.x.x network
> and they all want to wrote the same way. I think something is funny here.
>
> Someone along the line has some weird mask set that is funneling the
> whole 192 net down a pipe that it may not have to travel threw.
>
> traceroute to csdnb.csd.mu.edu. It makes it fine. Thats where the
> 192.135.135.x packets are destined for, but they never get there.
>
>
> Now... I ask you kindly to research this. I already got a message
> to contact whois 192.135.135. Now don't give me that. I know the administrator
> and he is just as puzzled as I am about this mess. They can't get out
> and I can't get back in. I am a bit frustrated.
>
> If you kindly give me information on who to contact to get this routing
> mess back under control, I would greatly appreciate it.
>
> Thank you for assistance!
> --
> John S. Pinnow `net:jspinnow@cs.uwm.edu ` Home Voice: [414] 761-1537
> My opinions are not that of UWM, I am not operating in any official compacity
>
>
> ----- End Included Message -----
> ----- Begin Included Message -----
>
> From: John Stewart Pinnow <jspinnow@winternet.com>
> Subject: Why?
> To: JKRey@ISI.EDU
> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 21:09:18 -0600 (CST)
> Content-Type: text
> Content-Length: 838
>
>
>
> %/usr/etc/traceroute 192.135.135.1
> traceroute to 192.135.135.1 (192.135.135.1), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
> 1 winternet-gw.winternet.com (198.174.169.254) 8 ms 24 ms 41 ms
> 2 mrnet-Winternet1.MR.Net (137.192.18.1) 55 ms 13 ms 34 ms
> 3 MIXNet-gw.MR.Net (137.192.241.254) 49 ms 69 ms 41 ms
> 4 192.168.168.5 (192.168.168.5) 43 ms 56 ms 55 ms
> 5 border3-hssi1-0.Chicago.mci.net (204.70.26.5) 177 ms 189 ms 162 ms
> 6 *
>
> Why is 192.135.135.x routing down threw MCINET????? it should be
> routing to wiscnet and then to csdnb.csd.mu.edu
> --
> John S. Pinnow|net:jspinnow@cs.uwm.edu |Home Voice: [414] 761-1537
> <=T=> TR <=R=>| jspinnow@world.std.com|Voice Mail: [414] 287-5252
> Milwaukee, WI | jspinnow@winternet.com|http://www.uwm.edu/~jspinnow
> Disclaimer----> The views expressed are not necessarily those of U.W.M
>
>
> ----- End Included Message -----
>

______________________________________________________________________________
Dorian Kim Email: dorian@cic.net 2901 Hubbard Drive
Network Engineer Phone: (313)998-6976 Ann Arbor MI 48105
CICNet Network Systems Fax: (313)998-6105 http://www.cic.net/~dorian
Re: Concerning 192.x.x.x and routing [ In reply to ]
from my little nook:

traceroute to 192.135.135.1 (192.135.135.1) 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 eth-3.gw-4.hck.idt.net (169.132.32.254) 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms
2 eth-0.gw-1.hck.idt.net (169.132.34.250) 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms
3 hck-t1.gw-1.nynap.idt.net (206.20.128.17) 8 ms 9 ms 8 ms
4 192.157.69.11 (192.157.69.11) 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms
5 border2-hssi1-0.NewYork.mci.net (204.70.45.5) 137 ms 41 ms 209 ms
6 core-fddi-1.NewYork.mci.net (204.70.3.17) 157 ms 195 ms 292 ms
7 core1-hssi-2.WestOrange.mci.net (204.70.1.98) 33 ms 15 ms 15 ms
8 core1-hssi-3.NorthRoyalton.mci.net (204.70.1.101) 27 ms 28 ms 31 ms
9 core-hssi-2.Chicago.mci.net (204.70.1.93) 36 ms 39 ms 38 ms
10 border2-fddi-0.Chicago.mci.net (204.70.3.82) 39 ms 36 ms 38 ms
11 cicnet.Chicago.mci.net (204.70.25.10) 41 ms 34 ms 40 ms
12 dgf-fddi1.cic.net (192.217.0.4) 41 ms 37 ms 34 ms
13 dgb-fddi0.cic.net (131.103.1.17) 34 ms 35 ms 36 ms
14 mke-dgb.cic.net (131.103.25.226) 131 ms 78 ms 60 ms
15 wiscnet.csd.uwm.edu (129.89.6.3) 128 ms 165 ms 109 ms
16 marquette-milwaukee.wiscnet.net (140.189.32.2) 235 ms 117 ms 278 ms
17 csdnb.csd.mu.edu (134.48.1.80) 110 ms (ttl=47!) 156 ms (ttl=47!)
182 ms (ttl=47!)
18 192.135.135.9 (192.135.135.9) 422 ms 387 ms 452 ms
19 192.135.135.1 (192.135.135.1) 329 ms (ttl=236!) 392 ms (ttl=236!)
403 ms (ttl=236!)
yes, there is a redirect problem probably near the host, maybe that kills ya.

Mike


On Mon, 8 Jan 1996 postel@ISI.EDU wrote:

>
> ----- Begin Included Message -----
>
> From: "John S. Pinnow" <jspinnow@allmalt.cs.uwm.edu>
> Subject: Concerning 192.x.x.x and routing
> To: paul.weber@mci.com, jeff@UWM.EDU, EJNORMAN@MACC.WISC.EDU,
> hostmaster@cic.net, JKRey@ISI.EDU
> Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 14:29:30 -0600 (CST)
> Cc: jspinnow@allmalt.cs.uwm.edu (John S. Pinnow)
>
> I am trying to reach 192.135.135.1 and I know it is up. They are
> trying to get out with no success.
>
> Now every time I trying to telnet,rlogin,ftp to this place. The packets
> are sent down the wrong route.
>
> 192.135.135.1 is supposed to hop on to wiscnet.net and make its way
> to csdnb.csd.mu.edu and then route over via that server. This is not
> happening.
>
> >From serveral accounts I tried. Each funneling the packets down mci net.
>
> Interesting enough I tried random destinations on the 192.x.x.x network
> and they all want to wrote the same way. I think something is funny here.
>
> Someone along the line has some weird mask set that is funneling the
> whole 192 net down a pipe that it may not have to travel threw.
>
> traceroute to csdnb.csd.mu.edu. It makes it fine. Thats where the
> 192.135.135.x packets are destined for, but they never get there.
>
>
> Now... I ask you kindly to research this. I already got a message
> to contact whois 192.135.135. Now don't give me that. I know the administrator
> and he is just as puzzled as I am about this mess. They can't get out
> and I can't get back in. I am a bit frustrated.
>
> If you kindly give me information on who to contact to get this routing
> mess back under control, I would greatly appreciate it.
>
> Thank you for assistance!
> --
> John S. Pinnow `net:jspinnow@cs.uwm.edu ` Home Voice: [414] 761-1537
> My opinions are not that of UWM, I am not operating in any official compacity
>
>
> ----- End Included Message -----
> ----- Begin Included Message -----
>
> From: John Stewart Pinnow <jspinnow@winternet.com>
> Subject: Why?
> To: JKRey@ISI.EDU
> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 21:09:18 -0600 (CST)
> Content-Type: text
> Content-Length: 838
>
>
>
> %/usr/etc/traceroute 192.135.135.1
> traceroute to 192.135.135.1 (192.135.135.1), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
> 1 winternet-gw.winternet.com (198.174.169.254) 8 ms 24 ms 41 ms
> 2 mrnet-Winternet1.MR.Net (137.192.18.1) 55 ms 13 ms 34 ms
> 3 MIXNet-gw.MR.Net (137.192.241.254) 49 ms 69 ms 41 ms
> 4 192.168.168.5 (192.168.168.5) 43 ms 56 ms 55 ms
> 5 border3-hssi1-0.Chicago.mci.net (204.70.26.5) 177 ms 189 ms 162 ms
> 6 *
>
> Why is 192.135.135.x routing down threw MCINET????? it should be
> routing to wiscnet and then to csdnb.csd.mu.edu
> --
> John S. Pinnow|net:jspinnow@cs.uwm.edu |Home Voice: [414] 761-1537
> <=T=> TR <=R=>| jspinnow@world.std.com|Voice Mail: [414] 287-5252
> Milwaukee, WI | jspinnow@winternet.com|http://www.uwm.edu/~jspinnow
> Disclaimer----> The views expressed are not necessarily those of U.W.M
>
>
> ----- End Included Message -----
>

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Michael F. Nittmann ---------
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Re: Concerning 192.x.x.x and routing [ In reply to ]
so what precisely is the problem??

rodan 184% traceroute 192.135.135.1
traceroute to 192.135.135.1 (192.135.135.1), 30 hops max, 40 byte
packets
1 IBMpc02 (153.39.130.1) 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms
2 Fddi0/0.GW2.FFX1.Alter.Net (137.39.12.2) 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms
3 Hssi2/0.Vienna1.VA.Alter.Net (137.39.100.69) 5 ms 13 ms 3 ms
4 192.41.177.180 (192.41.177.180) 120 ms 6 ms 4 ms
5 borderx2-hssi2-0.Washington.mci.net (204.70.74.117) 190 ms 8 ms 13 ms
6 core2-fddi-1.Washington.mci.net (204.70.74.65) 6 ms 6 ms 7 ms
7 core2-hssi-3.WestOrange.mci.net (204.70.1.105) 334 ms 17 ms 510 ms
8 borderx1-fddi-1.WestOrange.mci.net (204.70.64.52) 19 ms 11 ms 11 ms
9 core1-fddi-0.WestOrange.mci.net (204.70.64.17) 10 ms 12 ms 12 ms
10 core1-hssi-3.NorthRoyalton.mci.net (204.70.1.101) 29 ms 23 ms 27 ms
11 core-hssi-2.Chicago.mci.net (204.70.1.93) 34 ms 33 ms 37 ms
12 border2-fddi-0.Chicago.mci.net (204.70.3.82) 35 ms 31 ms 34 ms
13 cicnet.Chicago.mci.net (204.70.25.10) 30 ms 32 ms 33 ms
14 dgf-fddi1.cic.net (192.217.0.4) 34 ms 31 ms 33 ms
15 dgb-fddi0.cic.net (131.103.1.17) 30 ms 33 ms 30 ms
16 mke-dgb.cic.net (131.103.25.226) 336 ms 104 ms 365 ms
17 wiscnet.csd.uwm.edu (129.89.6.3) 40 ms 92 ms 68 ms
18 marquette-milwaukee.wiscnet.net (140.189.32.2) 69 ms 148 ms 138 ms
19 csdnb.csd.mu.edu (134.48.1.80) 216 ms 148 ms 151 ms
20 192.135.135.9 (192.135.135.9) 497 ms 434 ms 428 ms
21 192.135.135.1 (192.135.135.1) 364 ms 349 ms 282 ms
rodan 185%
Re: Concerning 192.x.x.x and routing [ In reply to ]
Just looks like a case of someone believing different DBs in whatever
order they choose. Not sure why it would 'suddenly' manifest, but MCI
is telling it loudly enough for sprint to believe it [appended] and for
it to work. I don't know other 192.x.x.x hit [none were listed], but
192.108.186.0/24 (one of my customers) seems just peachy from BBN-land.

Fireless smoke or a transient?

Cheers,
Joe Provo
Network Operations Center
UltraNet Communications, Inc.
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% whorad 192.135.135.0
route: 192.135.135.0/24
descr: Washington High School
descr: 2525 N. Sherman Blvd
descr: Milwaukee
descr: WI 53210, USA
origin: AS2381
comm-list: COMM_NSFNET
advisory: AS690 1:3561(27) 2:3561(218) 3:3561(147) 4:3561(11) 5:3561(144)
mnt-by: MAINT-AS2381
changed: nsfnet-admin@merit.edu 950411
source: RADB

route: 192.0.0.0/2
descr: See aut-num for AS0
origin: AS0
advisory: AS690 1:0
mnt-by: ANS
changed: selina@ans.net 951003
source: ANS

route: 192.135.135.0/24
descr: WHS-DOM
descr: Washington High School
descr: 2525 N. Sherman Blvd
descr: Milwaukee, WI 53210
descr: USA
origin: AS2381
advisory: AS690 1:3561
mnt-by: CICNET-NS
changed: tko@cic.net 950410
source: MCI
---
%trac 192.135.135.1
traceroute to 192.135.135.1 (192.135.135.1), 30 hops max, 40 byte
packets
1 core-7.ultra.net (199.232.56.27) 5 ms 3 ms 4 ms
2 sl-pen-5-S3/0-T1.sprintlink.net (144.228.65.73) 62 ms 44 ms 37 ms
3 sl-pen-2-F0/0.sprintlink.net (144.228.60.2) 76 ms 77 ms 157 ms
4 sprintnap.mci.net (192.157.69.11) 58 ms 54 ms 60 ms
5 border2-hssi1-0.NewYork.mci.net (204.70.45.5) 61 ms 54 ms 95 ms
6 core-fddi-1.NewYork.mci.net (204.70.3.17) 56 ms 36 ms 56 ms
7 core1-hssi-2.WestOrange.mci.net (204.70.1.98) 74 ms 52 ms 67 ms
8 core1-hssi-3.NorthRoyalton.mci.net (204.70.1.101) 84 ms 115 ms 132 ms
9 core-hssi-2.Chicago.mci.net (204.70.1.93) 118 ms 80 ms 63 ms
10 border2-fddi-0.Chicago.mci.net (204.70.3.82) 66 ms 66 ms 78 ms
11 cicnet.Chicago.mci.net (204.70.25.10) 69 ms 72 ms 61 ms
12 dgf-fddi1.cic.net (192.217.0.4) 54 ms 61 ms 65 ms
13 dgc-fddi0.cic.net (131.103.1.18) 74 ms 56 ms 74 ms
14 mke-dgc.cic.net (131.103.26.226) 277 ms 92 ms 290 ms
15 wiscnet.csd.uwm.edu (129.89.6.3) 154 ms 317 ms 141 ms
16 marquette-milwaukee.wiscnet.net (140.189.32.2) 127 ms 119 ms 477 ms
17 csdnb.csd.mu.edu (134.48.1.80) 222 ms 134 ms 189 ms
18 192.135.135.9 (192.135.135.9) 508 ms 1063 ms 432 ms
19 192.135.135.1 (192.135.135.1) 316 ms 373 ms 453 ms
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Re: Concerning 192.x.x.x and routing [ In reply to ]
There is no problem anymore. Please drop this.
Thanks,
jeff