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The correct format depends on what you choose in the schedules direct
configuration script (/usr/bin/tv_grab_sd_json --configure)

I don't know if it's easier to edit in mythweb - I've never done it that
way.

Rory

On 31 August 2016 at 12:57, Robert Fisher <robert@fisher.net.nz> wrote:

>
>
> On 31 August 2016 at 10:53, Rory Grant <rorzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You need to enter the Schedules Direct Channel ID in the "XMLTV ID:"
>> field.
>>
> So is the Channel ID (for example)
> 406723
> or
> INZ406723
> or
> INZ406723.json.schedulesdirect.org
>
> and is it easier to edit these in Mythweb?
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On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 13:11:09 +1200, you wrote:

>On 31 August 2016 at 13:00, Stephen Worthington <stephen_agent@jsw.gen.nz>
>wrote:
>
>> If you have turned on the option for xmltv updates Mythbuntu Control
>> Centre, you should already have at least xmltv 0.5.67-1 (which is what
>> I have in 14.04) which has the json grabbers. In that case, is there
>> a reason to want 0.5.68-1?
>>
>
>dpkg -l xmltv on my system shows that I have *0.5.67-0.1*
>but tv-find_grabbers does not find the json one.
>
>Is 0.5.67-1 correct? (I assumed it might be a typo)

No, not a typo. The full version from "dpkg -l mythtv" is
0.5.67-1+r5142p198~ubuntu14.0. Check that you have xmltv updates
turned on. If you have, there should be a
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/mythbuntu-xmltv-trusty.list file with this in
it:

deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/xmltv/ubuntu trusty main
# deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/xmltv/ubuntu trusty main

(Substitute "trusty" with your Ubuntu version).

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Same Topic - Different Tack

Have been resurrecting my test system for this development.

Starting with my ?buntu 14.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.13.0-40-generic i686
system with a myth system that reports it version thus:

tartarus@locarno:~/bin$ mythbackend --version
Please attach all output as a file in bug reports.
MythTV Version : v0.27.4-19-g65d92fd
MythTV Branch : fixes/0.27
Network Protocol : 77
Library API : 0.27.20141016-1
QT Version : 4.8.6

I too have now secured a working tv_grab_sd_json grabber and after
configuring my line-up have downloaded an xml file from SD.

I agree that the SD file seems more complete but I do have concerns
about the accuracy.

In the first program I checked (Lewis Prime Sun Evening) the SD data is
clearly wrong as it describes Series 1 Episode 3 whereas Prime will
actually be showing Series 8 Episode 3.

__I will not be integrating SD with Mythtv till this is resolved.__

NZ EIT [MHEG 5] Sourced Data

<programme start="20160904203000 +1200" stop="20160904223500 +1200"
channel="prime.freeviewnz.tv">

<!-- debug_crid_episode: crid://primetv.co.nz/SNZ10497601 -->

<!-- debug_crid_series: crid://primetv.co.nz/149501 -->

<title lang="en">Weekend Murders: Lewis</title>

<desc lang="en">'(Season Finale) One of Lewis' first cases is
appealed 13 years after the conviction, made suspicious when a crime
scene that matches the original a

<subtitles type="teletext" />

<rating system="BSA of NZ">

<value>PGR</value>

</rating>

</programme>


SD Sourced Data

<programme start="20160904083000 +0000" stop="20160904103500 +0000"
channel="INZ410759.json.schedulesdirect.org">

<title>Lewis</title>

<sub-title>Expiation</sub-title>

<desc>Lewis has doubts about the suicide verdict of a housewife
found hanged in her North Oxford home, after discovering a key piece of
information.</desc>

<credits>

<director>Bill Anderson</director>

<director>Dan Reed</director>

<director>Bille Eltringham</director>

<actor>Kevin Whately</actor>

<actor>Laurence Fox</actor>

<actor>Clare Holman</actor>

<actor>Rebecca Front</actor>

<writer>Colin Dexter</writer>

<writer>Alan Plater</writer>

<writer>Guy Andrews</writer>

<producer>Michele Buck</producer>

<producer>Damien Timmer</producer>

<guest>Timothy Carlton</guest>

<guest>Emma Croft</guest>

</credits>

<category>Mystery</category>

<category>Crime drama</category>

<category>Series</category>

<category>series</category>

<episode-num system="xmltv_ns">0.2/3.</episode-num>

<episode-num system="dd_progid">EP000337850003</episode-num>

<previously-shown start="20070304120000 +1300" />

<subtitles type="teletext" />

</programme>


Regards

Tony Sauri

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On 31/08/16 13:46, Rory Grant wrote:
> The correct format depends on what you choose in the schedules direct
> configuration script (/usr/bin/tv_grab_sd_json --configure)
>
> I don't know if it's easier to edit in mythweb - I've never done it
> that way.
You can edit xmltvid's at
http://server/mythweb/settings/tv/channels

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On 31/08/16 13:50, Stephen Worthington wrote:
> Check that you have xmltv updates
> turned on.
That ticked the box. Thanks.

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On 31/08/16 14:39, Tony Sauri wrote:
> I agree that the SD file seems more complete but I do have concerns
> about the accuracy.
Damn!
I just read this a few minutes after a successful migration to SD
(following Rory's howto)

I thought that I had read somewhere that Schedules Direct had EPG data
for three weeks but I only get seven days.

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On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 12:08 AM, Robert Fisher <robert@fisher.net.nz> wrote:
> I just read this a few minutes after a successful migration to SD (following
> Rory's howto)
>
> I thought that I had read somewhere that Schedules Direct had EPG data for
> three weeks but I only get seven days.

The amount of data that we get varies upon the provider; (US and
Europe providers give schedule out past 21 days) some are able
to lock in their schedule weeks in advance, and some don't, which is
why there's a variation in the amount of data available.

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Thanks Robert.

Rob Fisher

On 31 Aug 2016 5:15 pm, "Robert Kulagowski" <rkulagow@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 12:08 AM, Robert Fisher <robert@fisher.net.nz>
> wrote:
> > I just read this a few minutes after a successful migration to SD
> (following
> > Rory's howto)
> >
> > I thought that I had read somewhere that Schedules Direct had EPG data
> for
> > three weeks but I only get seven days.
>
> The amount of data that we get varies upon the provider; (US and
> Europe providers give schedule out past 21 days) some are able
> to lock in their schedule weeks in advance, and some don't, which is
> why there's a variation in the amount of data available.
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On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 13:00:07 +1200, you wrote:

>On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 10:53:03 +1200, you wrote:
>
>>I'm not a developer, and I've got schedules direct up and running on my
>>Ubuntu 16.04 system.
>[snip]
>>*2. Install xmltv 0.5.68-1 from Debian Sid* from here
>>https://packages.debian.org/sid/xmltv . There are 4 .deb packages you need:
>>xmltv, libxmltv-perl, xmltv-gui, xmltv-util.
>
>If you have turned on the option for xmltv updates Mythbuntu Control
>Centre, you should already have at least xmltv 0.5.67-1 (which is what
>I have in 14.04) which has the json grabbers. In that case, is there
>a reason to want 0.5.68-1?

I have just downloaded and built copies of the latest release and
nightly versions of xmltv on my test PC (Mythbuntu 16.04, MythTV
0.28-fixes). I did a diff between tv_grab_sd_json in the release
version and the installed 0.5.67-1 version in 16.04 xmltv-fixes. There
are quite a few changes, so it looks like you should download and
install the latest release version, or even the current snapshot
(nightly build) version which is different again.

I am using this page as a guide as to how to set things up:

https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Migrating_to_Schedules_Direct_in_the_UK

This is from the nightly build version, which I am trying out:

root@lith:~# tv_grab_sd_json --version
XMLTV module version 0.5.68
This is tv_grab_sd_json version 1.21, 2016/07/15 01:26:44

After configuring to use the Wellington transmitter lineup (because it
is normally identical to the Wharite lineup), I did a test run and got
a .xml file. So far, I have noticed a couple of things that I
probably should tell SD about:

1) The new HGTV channel is missing.
2) The old names are being used for RNZ National and RNZ Concert (the
xml file has them as Radio NZ National and Radio NZ Concert.

There seems to be a lot more detail available about programmes, such
as cast lists. Every programme I have checked has a dd_progid format
episode-num field, and some programmes also have other formats of
episode-num as well. That is excellent - it will prevent re-recording
of repeats. However, the episode-num data does not match the data in
the EPG collected from the MHEG5 EPG on the channels themselves. So
it will not match old recordings in my database.

The next step is to get tv_grab_sd_json to set up my channels in
MythTV on the test PC. But that will have to wait until I have some
more spare time.

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On 31 August 2016 at 21:45, Stephen Worthington
<stephen_agent@jsw.gen.nz> wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 13:00:07 +1200, you wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 10:53:03 +1200, you wrote:
>>
>>>I'm not a developer, and I've got schedules direct up and running on my
>>>Ubuntu 16.04 system.
>>[snip]
>>>*2. Install xmltv 0.5.68-1 from Debian Sid* from here
>>>https://packages.debian.org/sid/xmltv . There are 4 .deb packages you need:
>>>xmltv, libxmltv-perl, xmltv-gui, xmltv-util.
>>
>>If you have turned on the option for xmltv updates Mythbuntu Control
>>Centre, you should already have at least xmltv 0.5.67-1 (which is what
>>I have in 14.04) which has the json grabbers. In that case, is there
>>a reason to want 0.5.68-1?
>
> I have just downloaded and built copies of the latest release and
> nightly versions of xmltv on my test PC (Mythbuntu 16.04, MythTV
> 0.28-fixes). I did a diff between tv_grab_sd_json in the release
> version and the installed 0.5.67-1 version in 16.04 xmltv-fixes. There
> are quite a few changes, so it looks like you should download and
> install the latest release version, or even the current snapshot
> (nightly build) version which is different again.
>
> I am using this page as a guide as to how to set things up:
>
> https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Migrating_to_Schedules_Direct_in_the_UK
>
> This is from the nightly build version, which I am trying out:
>
> root@lith:~# tv_grab_sd_json --version
> XMLTV module version 0.5.68
> This is tv_grab_sd_json version 1.21, 2016/07/15 01:26:44
>
> After configuring to use the Wellington transmitter lineup (because it
> is normally identical to the Wharite lineup), I did a test run and got
> a .xml file. So far, I have noticed a couple of things that I
> probably should tell SD about:
>
> 1) The new HGTV channel is missing.
> 2) The old names are being used for RNZ National and RNZ Concert (the
> xml file has them as Radio NZ National and Radio NZ Concert.
>
> There seems to be a lot more detail available about programmes, such
> as cast lists. Every programme I have checked has a dd_progid format
> episode-num field, and some programmes also have other formats of
> episode-num as well. That is excellent - it will prevent re-recording
> of repeats. However, the episode-num data does not match the data in
> the EPG collected from the MHEG5 EPG on the channels themselves. So
> it will not match old recordings in my database.
>
> The next step is to get tv_grab_sd_json to set up my channels in
> MythTV on the test PC. But that will have to wait until I have some
> more spare time.
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Thanks to Rory for your helpful enabler/guide!

You're near Wharite too, eh Steven?

After quite some stuffing around updating all of my broken perl
scripts, then installing the latest xmltv, then adding extra perl
modules to get tv_grab_sd_json working, it all went pretty straight
forward.

I've gone with the "National" lineup for now, which does include HGTV,
but not TV33. It's really nice to have Te Reo channel data, and I
agree with Steven that the overall data looks pretty comprehensive. I
can't speak to how well it'll play with my old recordings, but that's
not a major consideration in our set up.

If the trial works out, I'm gonna plunk down the $25USD for sure.

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On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 4:45 AM, Stephen Worthington
<stephen_agent@jsw.gen.nz> wrote:
> 1) The new HGTV channel is missing.
> 2) The old names are being used for RNZ National and RNZ Concert (the
> xml file has them as Radio NZ National and Radio NZ Concert.

Please open a Lineup issue ticket at the Schedules Direct website so
that we can triage and track with our bugtracker.

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On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 5:28 AM, Curtis Walker <sultanoswing@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've gone with the "National" lineup for now, which does include HGTV,
> but not TV33.

Please open a Lineup issue ticket at the Schedules Direct website so
that we can triage and track with our bugtracker. That way we can make
the data better.

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On 31/08/16 21:45, Stephen Worthington wrote:
> I have just downloaded and built copies of the latest release and
> nightly versions of xmltv on my test PC (Mythbuntu 16.04, MythTV
> 0.28-fixes). I did a diff between tv_grab_sd_json in the release
> version and the installed 0.5.67-1 version in 16.04 xmltv-fixes. There
> are quite a few changes, so it looks like you should download and
> install the latest release version, or even the current snapshot
> (nightly build) version which is different again.
If 0.5.67-1 seems to work fine for me (and was easy to install after
ticking the right box) is there a compelling reason to install a later
version?

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Anyone here who has changed to Schedules Direct and noticed that the
scheduled daily recording of One News at 6 has gone weird?

Mine seems to have disappeared from "Upcoming recordings" and when I try
to add it I get a dotted border and messages such as " will record
earlier" or "will never record"

All of my other scheduled recordings still seem OK but I cannot get
this one right again.

I want to know if I am the only one with this problem (or not) before I
log a ticket with SD

I might switch back to the local grabber tomorrow to see what happens.

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On 2 September 2016 at 22:30, Robert Fisher <robert@fisher.net.nz> wrote:
> Anyone here who has changed to Schedules Direct and noticed that the
> scheduled daily recording of One News at 6 has gone weird?
>
> Mine seems to have disappeared from "Upcoming recordings" and when I try to
> add it I get a dotted border and messages such as " will record earlier" or
> "will never record"
>
> All of my other scheduled recordings still seem OK but I cannot get this
> one right again.
>
> I want to know if I am the only one with this problem (or not) before I log
> a ticket with SD
>
> I might switch back to the local grabber tomorrow to see what happens.
>
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No problem for me with One News recording last night (mythtv 0.28
under Arch). 7-Days recorded fine. So far so good. I note that
'Backbenches" on Prime still has Damian Christie listed as the
co-host, as opposed to Haley Holt.

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On 03/09/16 09:08, Curtis Walker wrote:
> On 2 September 2016 at 22:30, Robert Fisher <robert@fisher.net.nz> wrote:
>
> I might switch back to the local grabber tomorrow to see what happens.
I restored from backup and things were fine again (using tv_grab_nz-py)

Switched back to Schedules Direct and set up to record One News at 6 "at
any time on any channel"
For tonight it the note shows "This showing will be recorded"
For the rest of the week the note says "This episode will be recorded at
an earlier time instead"
> No problem for me with One News recording last night (mythtv 0.28
> under Arch). 7-Days recorded fine. So far so good.
I do wonder if
https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Migrating_to_Schedules_Direct_in_the_UK
has the answer in
Remove old program IDs from the database

Unfortunately I do not know enough about mysql to do it.

He suggests:-
update oldrecorded set programid='' where \
programid rlike '^EP[0-9]+[a-z]?$' or \
programid rlike '^MV[0-9]+[a-z]?$' or \
programid rlike '^SH[0-9]+[a-z]?$' or \
programid rlike '^SP[0-9]+[a-z]?$';
update recorded set programid='' where \
programid rlike '^EP[0-9]+[a-z]?$' or \
programid rlike '^MV[0-9]+[a-z]?$' or \
programid rlike '^SH[0-9]+[a-z]?$' or \
programid rlike '^SP[0-9]+[a-z]?$';
update recordedprogram set programid='' where \
programid rlike '^EP[0-9]+[a-z]?$' or \
programid rlike '^MV[0-9]+[a-z]?$' or \
programid rlike '^SH[0-9]+[a-z]?$' or \
programid rlike '^SP[0-9]+[a-z]?$';


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On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Curtis Walker <sultanoswing@gmail.com> wrote:
> No problem for me with One News recording last night (mythtv 0.28
> under Arch). 7-Days recorded fine. So far so good. I note that
> 'Backbenches" on Prime still has Damian Christie listed as the
> co-host, as opposed to Haley Holt.

Please open a ticket at the Schedules Direct website so that we can
triage and escalate with our upstream.

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On 03/09/16 09:08, Curtis Walker wrote:
> On 2 September 2016 at 22:30, Robert Fisher <robert@fisher.net.nz> wrote:
>> Anyone here who has changed to Schedules Direct and noticed that the
>> scheduled daily recording of One News at 6 has gone weird?
Tony has done some more research and found that there are some other
shows with the same problem which he compared to local EPG data to show
that the offending shows

display the same
static EPISODE-NUM issue

One of us will log a ticket with Schedules direct.

Rob


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I have reported the following to Schedules Direct.......

The EPISODE-NUM does not seem to advance for some shows for example "One
News at 6" and "Newshub Live at 6"

This means that MythTV thinks that all episodes are the same and will
only ever record 1 when the Schedules Direct data is loaded.

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Has anyone noticed that the plus 1 channels have their episode numbers
incremented, meaning that the same shows get recorded twice, one with
incorrectt information?

On 4 Sep 2016 11:43 a.m., "Robert Fisher" <robert@fisher.net.nz> wrote:

> I have reported the following to Schedules Direct.......
>
> The EPISODE-NUM does not seem to advance for some shows for example "One
> News at 6" and "Newshub Live at 6"
>
> This means that MythTV thinks that all episodes are the same and will only
> ever record 1 when the Schedules Direct data is loaded.
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On 04/09/16 12:17, Rory Grant wrote:
>
> Has anyone noticed that the plus 1 channels have their episode numbers
> incremented, meaning that the same shows get recorded twice, one with
> incorrectt information?
>
Yes I noticed that too.
Have you logged it?

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I've had a look through the future info, and this problem seems to have
cleared itself up. However, I found two further issues that I have
reported:

Some shows that have more than one episode screen in the same week have
doubled up data

Embarrassing example:

<programme start="20160909124500 +0000" stop="20160909131500 +0000"
channel="INZ431132.json.schedulesdirect.org">
<title>2 Broke Girls</title>
<episode-num system="dd_progid">EP014198720038</episode-num>

<programme start="20160907100000 +0000" stop="20160907103000 +0000"
channel="INZ431132.json.schedulesdirect.org">
<title>2 Broke Girls</title>
<episode-num system="dd_progid">EP014198720038</episode-num>


Second issue:

Big Bang Theory info is just plain wrong.

Both of these issues have been logged.

R

On 4 September 2016 at 12:56, Robert Fisher <robert@fisher.net.nz> wrote:

> On 04/09/16 12:17, Rory Grant wrote:
>
>>
>> Has anyone noticed that the plus 1 channels have their episode numbers
>> incremented, meaning that the same shows get recorded twice, one with
>> incorrectt information?
>>
>> Yes I noticed that too.
> Have you logged it?
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On 04/09/16 11:42, Robert Fisher wrote:
> I have reported the following to Schedules Direct.......
>
> The EPISODE-NUM does not seem to advance for some shows for example
> "One News at 6" and "Newshub Live at 6"
>
> This means that MythTV thinks that all episodes are the same and will
> only ever record 1 when the Schedules Direct data is loaded.

I have just added the show "Sunday" to this ticket.

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On 4 September 2016 at 15:18, Robert Fisher <robert@fisher.net.nz> wrote:
> On 04/09/16 11:42, Robert Fisher wrote:
>>
>> I have reported the following to Schedules Direct.......
>>
>> The EPISODE-NUM does not seem to advance for some shows for example "One
>> News at 6" and "Newshub Live at 6"
>>
>> This means that MythTV thinks that all episodes are the same and will only
>> ever record 1 when the Schedules Direct data is loaded.
>
>
> I have just added the show "Sunday" to this ticket.
>
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I've just ponied up the $25USD for a year's subs. The quality of the
data is definitely a step up on previous, and I do like the look of
all my channels now having guide data (damn OCD). Worth supporting.

Hopefully with user feedback the small kinks and errors will be
resolved. I guess it'll be a good chance to see how good the customer
service is in that regard!

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On 04/09/16 20:43, Curtis Walker wrote:
> I've just ponied up the $25USD for a year's subs. The quality of the
> data is definitely a step up on previous, and I do like the look of
> all my channels now having guide data (damn OCD). Worth supporting.
>
> Hopefully with user feedback the small kinks and errors will be
> resolved. I guess it'll be a good chance to see how good the customer
> service is in that regard!
>

I thought the whole point of the 90 day trial was that no refunds had to
be done if it didn't go ahead.



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