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Re: Fwd: Embperl 3.0.0-rc.1 is released
I can see on the list archive that Gerald apparently replied to my
question about [$ hidden $] back in August. I never received a copy of
his message. I do recieve some emails from the list, which suggests that
I am in fact still on it, in some way at least, but I have no idea why I
would receive some messages from it, but not others. I don't have any
Spamassassin milter active in my Sendmail config. It's very
straightforward and goes straight through to my email client,
Thunderbird, which as I said previously has a filter to put messages
from the Embperl list into a folder prior to spam classification. So I
don't know why I wouldn't be getting some of those embperl messages. Is
it possibly an issue on the sending side? Or could it be my problem, I
don't seem to have any issues with emails from dozens or hundreds of
other sources. I don't know, and like I said I am tired of trying to
sort this out. I'm tired of people blaming me for something I have no
idea about, I get some messages but not others. I am tired of the lack
of support that Embperl has had over the last few years. I am tired of
everything, and I don't think I am going to continue with this list as I
don't need yet another source of aggravation pointing fingers at me. Bye
now.

On 11/19/23 23:35, Michael Smith wrote:
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: <embperl@actevy.io <mailto:embperl@actevy.io>>
> Date: Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 7:10?AM
> Subject: Re: Embperl 3.0.0-rc.1 is released
> To: Neil Gunton <neil@nilspace.com <mailto:neil@nilspace.com>>, Michael
> Smith <michael.smith@dianomi.com <mailto:michael.smith@dianomi.com>>
> Cc: Ruben Safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com <mailto:ruben@mrbrklyn.com>>, Jim
> Tappe <jtappe@gmail.com <mailto:jtappe@gmail.com>>,
> <embperl@perl.apache.org <mailto:embperl@perl.apache.org>>
>
>
> Hi Neil,
>
> I have answered ALL your mails. Nobody has blocked you. There is only
> one mailing list and as I already wrote embperl@actevy.io
> <mailto:embperl@actevy.io> is my personal mail account. See
>
> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/perl-embperl
> <https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/perl-embperl>
>
> Regards
>
> Gerald
>
> P.S. @Michael, just in case Neil doesn't get mail I send from
> embperl@actevy.io <mailto:embperl@actevy.io>, could you please forward
> this mail to him. Thanks!
>
> > Neil Gunton <neil@nilspace.com <mailto:neil@nilspace.com>> hat am
> 19.11.2023 22:34 CET geschrieben:
> >
> >
> > I run my own mail server and I have filters on my client (Thunderbird)
> > that put messages from the list into the appropriate folder before the
> > spam filters are applied. I also check my spam folder every day for
> > false positives. Since I do get some messages from the list, like this
> > latest one, and I don't have any spam modules installed in my Sendmail
> > (e.g. Spamassassin), there shouldn't be any reason why I wouldn't be
> > getting these emails.
> >
> > I have been assuming that I've been frozen out of this community for
> > some reason, since I ask questions (like I've asked before about this
> > other email list, "actevy.io <http://actevy.io>") and nobody replied.
> So that's sad, since
> > I am a heavy user of Embperl, and I feel like either the tool has been
> > abandoned, or else I have been for whatever reason. To be honest I
> > stopped trying to communicate here, since I never seem to get any
> > responses and then when something does come through, it seems to be via
> > someone else who cc'd me. I don't know, and I'm close to not caring any
> > more to be honest.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > On 11/19/23 13:19, Michael Smith wrote:
> > > Hi Neil
> > >
> > > I think everyone else on the list is getting all these emails. So I'm
> > > pretty sure everything is working fine but perhaps there is an
> issue on
> > > your end?
> > >
> > > Have you checked your spam and filters?
> > >
> > > Can't be much more help than that I'm afraid.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, 19 Nov 2023, 20:20 Neil Gunton, <neil@nilspace.com
> <mailto:neil@nilspace.com>
> > > <mailto:neil@nilspace.com <mailto:neil@nilspace.com>>> wrote:
> > >
> > >     I don't know what is going on with this list, but I never got this
> > >     message that is quoted from Gerald. Are there two email lists?
> Where is
> > >     the other one, and how do I sign up for it?
> > >
> > >     I didn't even know there was an rc.2 release candidate. Could
> someone
> > >     please tell me what is going on, I have asked before but got no
> answer.
> > >
> > >     Thanks,
> > >
> > >     Neil
> > >
> > >     On 11/19/23 10:23, Ruben Safir wrote:
> > >      > On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 07:35:30PM +0100, embperl@actevy.io
> <mailto:embperl@actevy.io>
> > >     <mailto:embperl@actevy.io <mailto:embperl@actevy.io>> wrote:
> > >      >> Hi Neil,
> > >      >>
> > >      >> were you able to verify that Embperl rc.2 fixes this test
> issue?
> > >      >>
> > >      >> Would be great to get some feedback, so I can prepare the final
> > >     release of Embperl 3.0.0 and upload it to CPAN.
> > >      >>
> > >      >> Thanks & Regards
> > >      >>
> > >      >> Gerald
> > >      >>
> > >      >
> > >      >
> > >      > Gerald Ricter?
> > >      >>
> > >      >>> Neil Gunton <neil@nilspace.com <mailto:neil@nilspace.com>
> <mailto:neil@nilspace.com <mailto:neil@nilspace.com>>> hat
> > >     am 05.10.2023 18:32 CEST geschrieben:
> > >      >>>
> > >      >>>
> > >      >>> On Devuan release (Daedalus, based on Debian bookworm minus
> > >     systemd),
> > >      >>> the new release compiles ok, albeit with some warnings (let me
> > >     know if
> > >      >>> the warnings would be useful).
> > >      >>>
> > >      >>> make test gives this error, same as what happens on Embperl
> > >     that ships
> > >      >>> with Debian:
> > >      >>>
> > >      >>> #115 includeerr2.htm...
> > >      >>> Error in Line 1
> > >      >>> Is: <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Embperl Error</TITLE></HEAD><BODY
> > >     bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
> > >      >>> Should:     <EOF>
> > >      >>> Input:              test/html/includeerr2.htm
> > >      >>> Output:             test/tmp/out.htm
> > >      >>> Compared to:        test/cmp/includeerr2.htm520
> > >      >>> Log:                test/tmp/test.log
> > >      >>> Testparameter:
> > >      >>>     cmpext = 520
> > >      >>>     version = 2
> > >      >>>     condition = $] >= 5.019400
> > >      >>>     repeat = 2
> > >      >>>     errors = 7
> > >      >>>
> > >      >>>    ERRORS detected! NOT all tests have been passed
> successfully
> > >      >>>
> > >      >>> cat: test/tmp/httpd.pid: No such file or directory
> > >      >>> make: *** [Makefile:1468: test_dynamic] Error 1
> > >      >>>
> > >      >>>
> > >      >>> On 10/5/23 09:00, Jim Tappe wrote:
> > >      >>>> Wow, Thank you!
> > >      >>>>
> > >      >>>> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 11:52?PM <embperl@actevy.io
> <mailto:embperl@actevy.io>
> > >     <mailto:embperl@actevy.io <mailto:embperl@actevy.io>>
> > >      >>>> <mailto:embperl@actevy.io <mailto:embperl@actevy.io>
> <mailto:embperl@actevy.io <mailto:embperl@actevy.io>>>> wrote:
> > >      >>>>
> > >      >>>>      __
> > >      >>>>      I am happy to anounnce Embperl 3.0.0. It is the first
> > >     release after
> > >      >>>>      8 years and it brings Embperl up to date with
> current linux
> > >      >>>>      distributions and software.
> > >      >>>>
> > >      >>>>      This is the first release candidate. Please give it
> a try
> > >     and and
> > >      >>>>      send feedback to the Embperl mailinglist.
> > >      >>>>      The release candidate is available from
> > >      >>>> https://www.embperl.org/downloads/Embperl-3.0.0_1.tar.gz
> <https://www.embperl.org/downloads/Embperl-3.0.0_1.tar.gz>
> > >     <https://www.embperl.org/downloads/Embperl-3.0.0_1.tar.gz
> <https://www.embperl.org/downloads/Embperl-3.0.0_1.tar.gz>>
> > >      >>>>
> <https://www.embperl.org/downloads/Embperl-3.0.0_1.tar.gz
> <https://www.embperl.org/downloads/Embperl-3.0.0_1.tar.gz>
> > >     <https://www.embperl.org/downloads/Embperl-3.0.0_1.tar.gz
> <https://www.embperl.org/downloads/Embperl-3.0.0_1.tar.gz>>>
> > >      >>>>      For installation instructions see INSTALL.pod
> > >      >>>>
> > >      >>>>      The release mainly incoporates the patches for
> Debian and
> > >     for Fedora
> > >      >>>>      based systems.
> > >      >>>>      It also includes some small fixes from myself.
> > >      >>>>
> > >      >>>>      There are no new features for Embperl itself in this
> > >     release, but
> > >      >>>>      Embperl::Form has a lot of enhancements. If you use
> > >     Embperl::Form,
> > >      >>>>      please test before use.
> > >      >>>>
> > >      >>>>      I like to thank all the people who have continually put
> > >     work into
> > >      >>>>      Embperl:
> > >      >>>>      - The Debian Perl Group, especially Dominic Hargreaves,
> > >     Florian
> > >      >>>>      Schlichting and Axel Beckert
> > >      >>>>      - Marcus Doemling for the Fedora patches
> > >      >>>>      and others.
> > >      >>>>      Please note the webiste at www.embperl.org
> <http://www.embperl.org>
> > >     <http://www.embperl.org <http://www.embperl.org>>
> <http://www.embperl.org <http://www.embperl.org>
> > >     <http://www.embperl.org <http://www.embperl.org>>>
> > >      >>>>      has also been updated to reflect the update.
> > > perl.apache.org/embperl <http://perl.apache.org/embperl>
> <http://perl.apache.org/embperl <http://perl.apache.org/embperl>>
> > >      >>>>      <http://perl.apache.org/embperl
> <http://perl.apache.org/embperl>
> > >     <http://perl.apache.org/embperl
> <http://perl.apache.org/embperl>>> is not yet updated, but will be soon.
> > >      >>>>      Changes in 3.0.0-rc.1  31. Sept 2023
> > >      >>>>
> > >      >>>>           - Apply debian patches
> > >      >>>>
> > >     (https://sources.debian.org/patches/libembperl-perl/2.5.0-17/
> <https://sources.debian.org/patches/libembperl-perl/2.5.0-17/>
> > >     <https://sources.debian.org/patches/libembperl-perl/2.5.0-17/
> <https://sources.debian.org/patches/libembperl-perl/2.5.0-17/>>
> > >      >>>>
> > >     <https://sources.debian.org/patches/libembperl-perl/2.5.0-17/
> <https://sources.debian.org/patches/libembperl-perl/2.5.0-17/>
> > >     <https://sources.debian.org/patches/libembperl-perl/2.5.0-17/
> <https://sources.debian.org/patches/libembperl-perl/2.5.0-17/>>>).
> > >      >>>>             Thanks to the Debian Perl Group, especially
> > >     Dominic Hargreaves,
> > >      >>>>             Florian Schlichting and Axel Beckert
> > >      >>>>           - Apply patches for fedora
> > >      >>>>
> > >     (https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148621
> <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148621>
> > >     <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148621
> <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148621>>
> > >      >>>>
> <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148621
> <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148621>
> > >     <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148621
> <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148621>>> and
> > >      >>>> https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148702
> <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148702>
> > >     <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148702
> <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148702>>
> > >      >>>>
> <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148702
> <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148702>
> > >     <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148702
> <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148702>>>)
> > >      >>>>             Thanks to Marcus Doemling
> > >      >>>>           - Fixed compilation/Makefile of/for libxml2 and
> libxslt
> > >      >>>>           - Fixed warnings about undefined values in log.
> Note
> > >     this
> > >      >>>>             is done by goning back to the old behaviour, were
> > >      >>>>             using uninitialized values were not a
> warning. So if
> > >      >>>>             you like to have warnings about uninitialized
> values
> > >      >>>>             add [* use warnings "uninitialized" *] to
> your code.
> > >      >>>>           - Add a lot of enhancements to Embperl::Form
> > >      >>>>
> > >      >>
> > >      >>
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