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oh 3g, 3g, wherefore art thou 3g

Feb 28, 2011, 2:03 AM

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Hi guys, could it be that a magic setting exist some where?

I'm currently in Buenos Aires, Argentina. Never have I seen my network
indicator go above 2.5g, I bought my wife an android motorola backflip
and it is most of the time indicating 3g.

Is there no real 3g networks in Argentina? is my Nokia N900 missing
the band that is active here for 3g?

Any ways, if someone from Argentina, or if someone knows about this,
please help me understand or set my phone correctly. I traveled to
Italy and England last September and my phone went even up to 4g in
Cortina d' Ampezzo.

f(t)
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Re: oh 3g, 3g, wherefore art thou 3g [ In reply to ]

listas.apl at gmail

Feb 28, 2011, 5:30 AM

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Francisco Diaz Trepat - gmail wrote:
> Hi guys, could it be that a magic setting exist some where?
>
> I'm currently in Buenos Aires, Argentina. Never have I seen my network
> indicator go above 2.5g, I bought my wife an android motorola backflip
> and it is most of the time indicating 3g.
>
> Is there no real 3g networks in Argentina? is my Nokia N900 missing
> the band that is active here for 3g?
>
> Any ways, if someone from Argentina, or if someone knows about this,
> please help me understand or set my phone correctly. I traveled to
> Italy and England last September and my phone went even up to 4g in
> Cortina d' Ampezzo.

There is no way to use 3G with the N900 in Argentina. The 1900 MHZ band used in Argentina for 3G is not supported by the N900.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Deployed_UMTS_networks#Americas

From http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/devices/nokia-n900/specifications :

Operating Frequency

* Quad-band EGSM 850/900/1800/1900, WCDMA 900/1700/2100

Alejandro.

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Re: oh 3g, 3g, wherefore art thou 3g [ In reply to ]

francisco.diaztrepat at gmail

Feb 28, 2011, 6:47 AM

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Momento que soy lento (Homer, Latam edition)

EGSM 1900 is not the 3g 1900MHZ of Personal Carrier?

Please excuse my ignorance. And thank you for your replies.

f(t)

2011/2/28 Alejandro López <listas.apl@gmail.com>:
>
>
> Francisco Diaz Trepat - gmail wrote:
>> Hi guys, could it be that a magic setting exist some where?
>>
>> I'm currently in Buenos Aires, Argentina. Never have I seen my network
>> indicator go above 2.5g, I bought my wife an android motorola backflip
>> and it is most of the time indicating 3g.
>>
>> Is there no real 3g networks in Argentina? is my Nokia N900 missing
>> the band that is active here for 3g?
>>
>> Any ways, if someone from Argentina, or if someone knows about this,
>> please help me understand or set my phone correctly. I traveled to
>> Italy and England last September and my phone went even up to 4g in
>> Cortina d' Ampezzo.
>
> There is no way to use 3G with the N900 in Argentina. The 1900 MHZ band used in Argentina for 3G is not supported by the N900.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Deployed_UMTS_networks#Americas
>
> From http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/devices/nokia-n900/specifications :
>
> Operating Frequency
>
> * Quad-band EGSM 850/900/1800/1900, WCDMA 900/1700/2100
>
>
> Alejandro.
>
>
>>
>> f(t)
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Re: oh 3g, 3g, wherefore art thou 3g [ In reply to ]

listas.apl at gmail

Feb 28, 2011, 8:15 AM

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Francisco Diaz Trepat - gmail wrote:
> Momento que soy lento (Homer, Latam edition)
>
> EGSM 1900 is not the 3g 1900MHZ of Personal Carrier?

As far as I understand. EGSM means "Extended GSM" and is what you see as 2.5g.

Alejandro.

>
> Please excuse my ignorance. And thank you for your replies.
>
> f(t)
>
> 2011/2/28 Alejandro López <listas.apl@gmail.com>:
>>
>> Francisco Diaz Trepat - gmail wrote:
>>> Hi guys, could it be that a magic setting exist some where?
>>>
>>> I'm currently in Buenos Aires, Argentina. Never have I seen my network
>>> indicator go above 2.5g, I bought my wife an android motorola backflip
>>> and it is most of the time indicating 3g.
>>>
>>> Is there no real 3g networks in Argentina? is my Nokia N900 missing
>>> the band that is active here for 3g?
>>>
>>> Any ways, if someone from Argentina, or if someone knows about this,
>>> please help me understand or set my phone correctly. I traveled to
>>> Italy and England last September and my phone went even up to 4g in
>>> Cortina d' Ampezzo.
>> There is no way to use 3G with the N900 in Argentina. The 1900 MHZ band used in Argentina for 3G is not supported by the N900.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Deployed_UMTS_networks#Americas
>>
>> From http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/devices/nokia-n900/specifications :
>>
>> Operating Frequency
>>
>> * Quad-band EGSM 850/900/1800/1900, WCDMA 900/1700/2100
>>
>>
>> Alejandro.
>>
>>
>>> f(t)
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Re: oh 3g, 3g, wherefore art thou 3g [ In reply to ]

llatva at iki

Feb 28, 2011, 8:37 AM

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Hello,

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011, Alejandro López wrote:
>> Momento que soy lento (Homer, Latam edition)
>>
>> EGSM 1900 is not the 3g 1900MHZ of Personal Carrier?
>
> As far as I understand. EGSM means "Extended GSM" and is what you see as 2.5g.

Sorry that I post into a thread that is going littlebit off-topic, but...

E-GSM is actually extension to the GSM frequency range, please see e.g.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-GSM#E-GSM

So it doesn't increase the nominal user data rates but gives operators
more channels to expand their GSM network. AFAIK, "2.5G" usually refers
to GSM/EDGE (EGPRS) services: better than 2G (GPRS) but less than 3G.

Best regards,

--
Lasse Latva
http://www.iki.fi/~llatva

Re: oh 3g, 3g, wherefore art thou 3g [ In reply to ]

francisco.diaztrepat at gmail

Feb 28, 2011, 8:54 AM

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Yeah I kind of thought that was the case. What is weird is that 3g is
already running in the US and for the table at the article it seems
Argentina has the same bands.

The ones that differ a lot are the European ones, Italy and UK for instance.

So no problem, I would just need to move there.... :-)

Italy was so nice last september, I could live there and eat focaccias
and prosciutto...

f(t)

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Lasse Latva <llatva@iki.fi> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> On Mon, 28 Feb 2011, Alejandro López wrote:
>>>
>>> Momento que soy lento (Homer, Latam edition)
>>>
>>> EGSM 1900 is not the 3g 1900MHZ of Personal Carrier?
>>
>> As far as I understand. EGSM means "Extended GSM" and is what you see as
>> 2.5g.
>
> Sorry that I post into a thread that is going littlebit off-topic, but...
>
> E-GSM is actually extension to the GSM frequency range, please see e.g.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-GSM#E-GSM
>
> So it doesn't increase the nominal user data rates but gives operators
> more channels to expand their GSM network. AFAIK, "2.5G" usually refers to
> GSM/EDGE (EGPRS) services: better than 2G (GPRS) but less than 3G.
>
> Best regards,
>
> --
> Lasse Latva
> http://www.iki.fi/~llatva
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Re: oh 3g, 3g, wherefore art thou 3g [ In reply to ]

francisco.diaztrepat at gmail

Feb 28, 2011, 9:00 AM

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I really don't understand I have the US version of the N900 as far as
I know (told me so the guy from whom I bought the phone) and it seems
the us doesn't have 2100.

weird

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Francisco Diaz Trepat - gmail
<francisco.diaztrepat@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah I kind of thought that was the case. What is weird is that 3g is
> already running in the US and for the table at the article it seems
> Argentina has the same bands.
>
> The ones that differ a lot are the European ones, Italy and UK for instance.
>
> So no problem, I would just need to move there.... :-)
>
> Italy was so nice last september, I could live there and eat focaccias
> and prosciutto...
>
> f(t)
>
> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Lasse Latva <llatva@iki.fi> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> On Mon, 28 Feb 2011, Alejandro López wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Momento que soy lento (Homer, Latam edition)
>>>>
>>>> EGSM 1900 is not the 3g 1900MHZ of Personal Carrier?
>>>
>>> As far as I understand. EGSM means "Extended GSM" and is what you see as
>>> 2.5g.
>>
>> Sorry that I post into a thread that is going littlebit off-topic, but...
>>
>> E-GSM is actually extension to the GSM frequency range, please see e.g.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-GSM#E-GSM
>>
>> So it doesn't increase the nominal user data rates but gives operators
>> more channels to expand their GSM network. AFAIK, "2.5G" usually refers to
>> GSM/EDGE (EGPRS) services: better than 2G (GPRS) but less than 3G.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> --
>> Lasse Latva
>> http://www.iki.fi/~llatva
>> _______________________________________________
>> maemo-users mailing list
>> maemo-users@maemo.org
>> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
>>
>>
>
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Re: oh 3g, 3g, wherefore art thou 3g [ In reply to ]

hartti at gmail

Feb 28, 2011, 9:51 AM

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There are two main GSM operators in U.S: T-Mobile and AT&T. They use
different bands for 3G. N900 can connect with 3G when in T-Mobile network
but not when in AT&T network.
You can find the bands used by the two operators on these wikipedia pages
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_USA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT&T_Mobility

Also I am pretty sure that there is no special N900 HW for US markets. The
same HW is used all around the world (although I seem to have forgotten
already a lot of the N900 technical details...)

Hartti

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Francisco Diaz Trepat - gmail <
francisco.diaztrepat@gmail.com> wrote:

> I really don't understand I have the US version of the N900 as far as
> I know (told me so the guy from whom I bought the phone) and it seems
> the us doesn't have 2100.
>
> weird
>
> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Francisco Diaz Trepat - gmail
> <francisco.diaztrepat@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yeah I kind of thought that was the case. What is weird is that 3g is
> > already running in the US and for the table at the article it seems
> > Argentina has the same bands.
> >
> > The ones that differ a lot are the European ones, Italy and UK for
> instance.
> >
> > So no problem, I would just need to move there.... :-)
> >
> > Italy was so nice last september, I could live there and eat focaccias
> > and prosciutto...
> >
> > f(t)
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Lasse Latva <llatva@iki.fi> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> On Mon, 28 Feb 2011, Alejandro López wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Momento que soy lento (Homer, Latam edition)
> >>>>
> >>>> EGSM 1900 is not the 3g 1900MHZ of Personal Carrier?
> >>>
> >>> As far as I understand. EGSM means "Extended GSM" and is what you see
> as
> >>> 2.5g.
> >>
> >> Sorry that I post into a thread that is going littlebit off-topic,
> but...
> >>
> >> E-GSM is actually extension to the GSM frequency range, please see e.g.
> >>
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-GSM#E-GSM
> >>
> >> So it doesn't increase the nominal user data rates but gives operators
> >> more channels to expand their GSM network. AFAIK, "2.5G" usually refers
> to
> >> GSM/EDGE (EGPRS) services: better than 2G (GPRS) but less than 3G.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> --
> >> Lasse Latva
> >> http://www.iki.fi/~llatva
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> maemo-users@maemo.org
> >> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
> >>
> >>
> >
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