How much harder are the use-cases currently covered by managed
resources, if that module was removed?
For standalone instances, it is nearly as easy to edit the file and
reload the schema. And it will probably be more version-control
friendly than the files currently saved by the module.
What about for SolrCloud?
My feeling is that this module did not catch on, I don't think anybody
ever implemented additional managed resources, though I remember
seeing Jiras. So, unless there are super-special use cases, I am +1 on
deprecating it ASAP for 8.7 and removing it in 9. It will fit with the
overall theme of getting slimmer and more consistent.
Regards,
Alex.
P.s. Also, I think the question on SolrUsers about this had limited
response and mentioned a security issue.
On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 at 10:28, Timothy Potter <thelabdude@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I agree we should deprecate the managed resources feature, it was the first thing I was asked to build by LW nearly 7 years ago, before I was a committer. Restlet was already in place and I built on top of that, not sure who introduced it originally (nor do I care). Clearly from the vantage point of looking back, JAX-RS and Jersey won the day with REST in Java but that simply wasn't the case back then. What's important is how we move forward vs. bestowing judgement backed by wisdom of hindsight on decisions made many years ago.
>
> In the short term, does Apache have an Artifactory (or similar) where we can host the Restlet dependencies for Github to pull them from? If not, then we can port the code that's using Restlet over to using JAX-RS / Jersey. Personally I'd prefer we remove Managed Resources support from 9 instead of porting the Restlet code but I don't know if 9 is too soon from a deprecation stand point?
>
> Tim
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 11:33 PM Noble Paul <noble.paul@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> We should deprecate that feature and remove restlet dependency altogether
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 10:20 PM Joel Bernstein <joelsolr@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Restlet again!!!!!!!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Joel Bernstein
>> > http://joelsolr.blogspot.com/
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 7:18 AM Eric Pugh <epugh@opensourceconnections.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Do we have a community blessed alternative to restlet already?
>> >>
>> >> On Sep 20, 2020, at 9:40 AM, Noble Paul <noble.paul@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Haha.
>> >>
>> >> In fact schema APIs don't use restlet. Only the managed resources use it
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 3:35 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <ichattopadhyaya@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> If I were talend, I'd immediately start publishing to maven central. If I were the developer who built the schema APIs, I would never have used restlet to begin with.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sat, 19 Sep, 2020, 1:13 am Uwe Schindler, <uwe@thetaphi.de> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I was thinking the same. Because GitHub does not cache the downloaded artifacts like our jenkins servers.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It seems to run it in a new VM or container every time, so it downloads all artifacts. If I were Talend, I'd also block this.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Uwe
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Am September 18, 2020 7:32:47 PM UTC schrieb Dawid Weiss <dawid.weiss@gmail.com>:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I don't think it's http/https - I believe restlet repository simply
>> >>>>> bans github servers because of excessive traffic? These URLs work for
>> >>>>> me locally...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Dawid
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 6:35 PM Christine Poerschke (BLOOMBERG/
>> >>>>> LONDON) <cpoerschke@bloomberg.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> This sounds vaguely familiar. "http works, https does not work" and https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-13756 possibly related?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> From: dev@lucene.apache.org At: 09/18/20 10:01:29
>> >>>>>> To: dev@lucene.apache.org
>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: restlet dependencies
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I don't think it is, sadly.
>> >>>>>> https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/restlet
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> The link you provided (mvnrepository) aggregates from several maven
>> >>>>>> repositories.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> D.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 10:46 AM Ishan Chattopadhyaya
>> >>>>>> <ichattopadhyaya@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Sorry, afk, but I heard (*hearsay*) that restlet is also on maven central
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> these days. Can we confirm and switch to that? Sorry, if that's not the case.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Sep, 2020, 1:15 pm Dawid Weiss, <dawid.weiss@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Just FYI: can't get PR builds on github to work recently because of this:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Could not resolve all files for configuration
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> ':solr:core:compileClasspath'.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> 350 > Could not download org.restlet.ext.servlet-2.4.3.jar
>> >>>>>>>> (org.restlet.jee:org.restlet.ext.servlet:2.4.3)
>> >>>>>>>> 351 > Could not get resource
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 'https://maven.restlet.com/org/restlet/jee/org.restlet.ext.servlet/2.4.3/org.res
>> >>>>>> tlet.ext.servlet-2.4.3.jar'.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> 352 > Could not GET
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 'https://maven.restlet.com/org/restlet/jee/org.restlet.ext.servlet/2.4.3/org.res
>> >>>>>> tlet.ext.servlet-2.4.3.jar'.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> 353 > Connection reset
>> >>>>>>>> 354 > Could not download org.restlet-2.4.3.jar
>> >>>>>>>> (org.restlet.jee:org.restlet:2.4.3)
>> >>>>>>>> 355 > Could not get resource
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 'https://maven.restlet.com/org/restlet/jee/org.restlet/2.4.3/org.restlet-2.4.3.j
>> >>>>>> ar'.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> 356 > Could not GET
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 'https://maven.restlet.talend.com/org/restlet/jee/org.restlet/2.4.3/org.restlet-
>> >>>>>> 2.4.3.jar'.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> 357 > Connection reset
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> D.
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