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I've uploaded heartbeat 0.4.5a to the download directory of the web site, but
there are no pointers to it on the web site. The last part of the URLs are what
you'd expect:

heartbeat-0.4.5a.tar.gz
heartbeat-0.4.5a-1.src.rpm
heartbeat-0.4.5a-1.i386.rpm

You'll find them under:
http://www.henge.com/~alanr/ha/download

Give it a shot, and see what you think.

Hint: There's a new directive called "auth" in a new file called authkeys.
There's a sample in the doc directory.

You can send heartbeat a SIGHUP, and it'll reread the authkeys file (only) and
use new key information in it. It

Needs some good documentation (hint...)


-- Alan Robertson
alanr@bell-labs.com

On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 10:00:32PM -0600, Alan Robertson wrote:
>You'll find them under:
> http://www.henge.com/~alanr/ha/download

I've set up a mirror of them at ftp://ftp.tummy.com/pub/mirrors/linuxha/
They should start getting picked up by filewatcher.org within the next
24 hours.

Sean
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On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 10:00:32PM -0600, Alan Robertson wrote:
>You'll find them under:
> http://www.henge.com/~alanr/ha/download

I've set up a mirror of them at ftp://ftp.tummy.com/pub/mirrors/linuxha/
They should start getting picked up by filewatcher.org within the next
24 hours.

Sean
--
The sooner you start to code, the longer the program will take.
-- Roy Carlson
Sean Reifschneider, Inimitably Superfluous <jafo@tummy.com>
URL: <http://www.tummy.com/xvscan> HP-UX/Linux/FreeBSD/BSDOS scanning software.

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Alan Robertson wrote:

> I've uploaded heartbeat 0.4.5a to the download directory of the web site, but
> there are no pointers to it on the web site. The last part of the URLs are what
> you'd expect:
>
> heartbeat-0.4.5a.tar.gz
> heartbeat-0.4.5a-1.src.rpm
> heartbeat-0.4.5a-1.i386.rpm
>
> You'll find them under:
> http://www.henge.com/~alanr/ha/download
>
Got it.

> Give it a shot, and see what you think.
>
Will do.

> Hint: There's a new directive called "auth" in a new file called authkeys.
> There's a sample in the doc directory.
>
> You can send heartbeat a SIGHUP, and it'll reread the authkeys file (only) and
> use new key information in it. It
>
> Needs some good documentation (hint...)
>
>
> -- Alan Robertson
> alanr@bell-labs.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Linux-HA-Dev mailing list
> Linux-HA-Dev@lists.tummy.com
> http://lists.tummy.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-ha-dev
>
This new mailing list is a good idea.

Volker

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On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Alan Robertson wrote:

> I've uploaded heartbeat 0.4.5a to the download directory of the web site, but
> there are no pointers to it on the web site. The last part of the URLs are what
> you'd expect:
>
> heartbeat-0.4.5a.tar.gz
> heartbeat-0.4.5a-1.src.rpm
> heartbeat-0.4.5a-1.i386.rpm
>
> You'll find them under:
> http://www.henge.com/~alanr/ha/download
>
Got it.

> Give it a shot, and see what you think.
>
Will do.

> Hint: There's a new directive called "auth" in a new file called authkeys.
> There's a sample in the doc directory.
>
> You can send heartbeat a SIGHUP, and it'll reread the authkeys file (only) and
> use new key information in it. It
>
> Needs some good documentation (hint...)
>
>
> -- Alan Robertson
> alanr@bell-labs.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Linux-HA-Dev mailing list
> Linux-HA-Dev@lists.tummy.com
> http://lists.tummy.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-ha-dev
>
This new mailing list is a good idea.

Volker

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Mergenthalerallee 45-47 Mobile: +49 (0) 179 / 292 66 76
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Hi,
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 10:00:32PM -0600, Alan Robertson wrote:
> Give it a shot, and see what you think.
>
> Hint: There's a new directive called "auth" in a new file called authkeys.
> There's a sample in the doc directory.

Hmm don't find any hint in the doc directory ...
>

Also i get this erro on startup:
heartbeat: 1999/09/29_20:53:53 error: Illegal directive [logfacility] in /etc/ha
.d/ha.cf
heartbeat: 1999/09/29_20:53:53 error: Heartbeat not started: configuration error
.
heartbeat: 1999/09/29_20:53:53 error: Configuration error, heartbeat not started



Thomas
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Hi,
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 10:00:32PM -0600, Alan Robertson wrote:
> Give it a shot, and see what you think.
>
> Hint: There's a new directive called "auth" in a new file called authkeys.
> There's a sample in the doc directory.

Hmm don't find any hint in the doc directory ...
>

Also i get this erro on startup:
heartbeat: 1999/09/29_20:53:53 error: Illegal directive [logfacility] in /etc/ha
.d/ha.cf
heartbeat: 1999/09/29_20:53:53 error: Heartbeat not started: configuration error
.
heartbeat: 1999/09/29_20:53:53 error: Configuration error, heartbeat not started



Thomas
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-----------------------------------------------

On 1999-09-29T08:45:40,
Volker Wiegand <wiegand@suse.de> said:

> This new mailing list is a good idea.

Actually, may I ask why? ;-) I was subscribed automatically to linux-ha-dev,
but from the traffic on linux-ha it wasn't exactly obvious we needed to split
off a -dev list...

Sincerely,
Lars Marowsky-Brée

--
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Network Management

teuto.net Netzdienste GmbH

On 1999-09-29T08:45:40,
Volker Wiegand <wiegand@suse.de> said:

> This new mailing list is a good idea.

Actually, may I ask why? ;-) I was subscribed automatically to linux-ha-dev,
but from the traffic on linux-ha it wasn't exactly obvious we needed to split
off a -dev list...

Sincerely,
Lars Marowsky-Brée

--
Lars Marowsky-Brée
Network Management

teuto.net Netzdienste GmbH

Thomas Hepper wrote:
>
> Hi,
> On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 10:00:32PM -0600, Alan Robertson wrote:
> > Give it a shot, and see what you think.
> >
> > Hint: There's a new directive called "auth" in a new file called authkeys.
> > There's a sample in the doc directory.
>
> Hmm don't find any hint in the doc directory ...

Sorry. I thought it was. I added it to the CVS tree, and the makefile. I
assumed I did it right. Thanks for the feedback.

#
# Authentication file. Must be mode 600
#
#
# Must have exactly one auth directive at the front.
# auth send authentication using this method-id
#
# Then, list the method and key that go with that method-id
#
# Available methods: crc sha1, md5. Crc doesn't need/want a key.
#
# You normally only have one authentication method-id listed in this
file
#
# Put more than one to make a smooth transition when changing auth
# methods and/or keys.
#
#
# sha1 is believed to be the "best", md5 next best.
#
# crc adds no security, except from packet corruption.
# Use only on physically secure networks.
#
#auth 1
#1 crc
#2 sha1 HI!
#3 md5 Hello!


> Also i get this erro on startup:
> heartbeat: 1999/09/29_20:53:53 error: Illegal directive [logfacility] in /etc/ha
> .d/ha.cf
> heartbeat: 1999/09/29_20:53:53 error: Heartbeat not started: configuration error
> .
> heartbeat: 1999/09/29_20:53:53 error: Configuration error, heartbeat not started

The keyword chosen for that feature was "facility". It probably should be
logfacility. Facility is a very broad word.



-- Alan Robertson
alanr@bell-labs.com

Thomas Hepper wrote:
>
> Hi,
> On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 10:00:32PM -0600, Alan Robertson wrote:
> > Give it a shot, and see what you think.
> >
> > Hint: There's a new directive called "auth" in a new file called authkeys.
> > There's a sample in the doc directory.
>
> Hmm don't find any hint in the doc directory ...

Sorry. I thought it was. I added it to the CVS tree, and the makefile. I
assumed I did it right. Thanks for the feedback.

#
# Authentication file. Must be mode 600
#
#
# Must have exactly one auth directive at the front.
# auth send authentication using this method-id
#
# Then, list the method and key that go with that method-id
#
# Available methods: crc sha1, md5. Crc doesn't need/want a key.
#
# You normally only have one authentication method-id listed in this
file
#
# Put more than one to make a smooth transition when changing auth
# methods and/or keys.
#
#
# sha1 is believed to be the "best", md5 next best.
#
# crc adds no security, except from packet corruption.
# Use only on physically secure networks.
#
#auth 1
#1 crc
#2 sha1 HI!
#3 md5 Hello!


> Also i get this erro on startup:
> heartbeat: 1999/09/29_20:53:53 error: Illegal directive [logfacility] in /etc/ha
> .d/ha.cf
> heartbeat: 1999/09/29_20:53:53 error: Heartbeat not started: configuration error
> .
> heartbeat: 1999/09/29_20:53:53 error: Configuration error, heartbeat not started

The keyword chosen for that feature was "facility". It probably should be
logfacility. Facility is a very broad word.



-- Alan Robertson
alanr@bell-labs.com

Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote:
>
> On 1999-09-29T08:45:40,
> Volker Wiegand <wiegand@suse.de> said:
>
> > This new mailing list is a good idea.
>
> Actually, may I ask why? ;-) I was subscribed automatically to linux-ha-dev,
> but from the traffic on linux-ha it wasn't exactly obvious we needed to split
> off a -dev list...

I've been sending quite a bit of mail to a handful of people who are more
closely interested in the development, bugs, etc. of heartbeat than the
majority on the list. I'd say that more than half of the HA mail I send does
not go to the whole list. You haven't gotten much of it. My choosing to
subscribe you to this list was an attempt to rectify that situation, since I
value your input. I had these development and documentation aliases set up a
little differently on different machines, and it was a complete pain for me.

I haven't felt comfortable with running down bugs, clarifying documentation
for heartbeat on the main list. I had also gotten a little feedback that some
of the inquiries I've placed of that nature were off-topic. I do things like
copy answers to questions to the documenters, and I plan on using this list
for that. If it doesn't work out, then we'll do something else.

I'm open to the idea of not using this list, but it would increase the traffic
on the Linux-HA list quite a bit, especially as we pick up speed.

I still plan on using the main list as a place to ask about architecture,
features, etc. at the high level.


-- Alan Robertson
alanr@bell-labs.com

Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote:
>
> On 1999-09-29T08:45:40,
> Volker Wiegand <wiegand@suse.de> said:
>
> > This new mailing list is a good idea.
>
> Actually, may I ask why? ;-) I was subscribed automatically to linux-ha-dev,
> but from the traffic on linux-ha it wasn't exactly obvious we needed to split
> off a -dev list...

I've been sending quite a bit of mail to a handful of people who are more
closely interested in the development, bugs, etc. of heartbeat than the
majority on the list. I'd say that more than half of the HA mail I send does
not go to the whole list. You haven't gotten much of it. My choosing to
subscribe you to this list was an attempt to rectify that situation, since I
value your input. I had these development and documentation aliases set up a
little differently on different machines, and it was a complete pain for me.

I haven't felt comfortable with running down bugs, clarifying documentation
for heartbeat on the main list. I had also gotten a little feedback that some
of the inquiries I've placed of that nature were off-topic. I do things like
copy answers to questions to the documenters, and I plan on using this list
for that. If it doesn't work out, then we'll do something else.

I'm open to the idea of not using this list, but it would increase the traffic
on the Linux-HA list quite a bit, especially as we pick up speed.

I still plan on using the main list as a place to ask about architecture,
features, etc. at the high level.


-- Alan Robertson
alanr@bell-labs.com

Hi,
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 01:43:19PM -0600, Alan Robertson wrote:
>
[..]
> #
> #auth 1
> #1 crc
> #2 sha1 HI!
> #3 md5 Hello!

OK got it, next error ;-). If you have a blank line at the end of the file
you get this error:
heartbeat: 1999/09/30_07:24:37 error: Auth line [
] is invalid.
heartbeat: 1999/09/30_07:24:37 error: Authentication configuration error.
heartbeat: 1999/09/30_07:24:37 error: Configuration error, heartbeat not started

>
>
> The keyword chosen for that feature was "facility". It probably should be
> logfacility. Facility is a very broad word.

Then i think someone has to change the example config file ;-)

Thomas
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Hi,
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 01:43:19PM -0600, Alan Robertson wrote:
>
[..]
> #
> #auth 1
> #1 crc
> #2 sha1 HI!
> #3 md5 Hello!

OK got it, next error ;-). If you have a blank line at the end of the file
you get this error:
heartbeat: 1999/09/30_07:24:37 error: Auth line [
] is invalid.
heartbeat: 1999/09/30_07:24:37 error: Authentication configuration error.
heartbeat: 1999/09/30_07:24:37 error: Configuration error, heartbeat not started

>
>
> The keyword chosen for that feature was "facility". It probably should be
> logfacility. Facility is a very broad word.

Then i think someone has to change the example config file ;-)

Thomas
--
-----------------------------------------------
| Thomas Hepper th@ant.han.de |
| ( If the above address fail try ) |
| ( thomas.hepper@planet-interkom.de) |
-----------------------------------------------

Thomas Hepper wrote:
>
> Hi,
> On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 01:43:19PM -0600, Alan Robertson wrote:
> >
> [..]
> > #
> > #auth 1
> > #1 crc
> > #2 sha1 HI!
> > #3 md5 Hello!
>
> OK got it, next error ;-). If you have a blank line at the end of the file
> you get this error:
> heartbeat: 1999/09/30_07:24:37 error: Auth line [
> ] is invalid.
> heartbeat: 1999/09/30_07:24:37 error: Authentication configuration error.
> heartbeat: 1999/09/30_07:24:37 error: Configuration error, heartbeat not started

Fixed.

> > The keyword chosen for that feature was "facility". It probably should be
> > logfacility. Facility is a very broad word.
>
> Then i think someone has to change the example config file ;-)

I changed the code instead... "logfacility it now is...


Thanks Thomas!


-- Alan Robertson
alanr@bell-labs.com

Thomas Hepper wrote:
>
> Hi,
> On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 01:43:19PM -0600, Alan Robertson wrote:
> >
> [..]
> > #
> > #auth 1
> > #1 crc
> > #2 sha1 HI!
> > #3 md5 Hello!
>
> OK got it, next error ;-). If you have a blank line at the end of the file
> you get this error:
> heartbeat: 1999/09/30_07:24:37 error: Auth line [
> ] is invalid.
> heartbeat: 1999/09/30_07:24:37 error: Authentication configuration error.
> heartbeat: 1999/09/30_07:24:37 error: Configuration error, heartbeat not started

Fixed.

> > The keyword chosen for that feature was "facility". It probably should be
> > logfacility. Facility is a very broad word.
>
> Then i think someone has to change the example config file ;-)

I changed the code instead... "logfacility it now is...


Thanks Thomas!


-- Alan Robertson
alanr@bell-labs.com

On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote:

> On 1999-09-29T08:45:40,
> Volker Wiegand <wiegand@suse.de> said:
>=20
> > This new mailing list is a good idea.
>=20
> Actually, may I ask why? ;-) I was subscribed automatically to linux-ha-d=
ev,
> but from the traffic on linux-ha it wasn't exactly obvious we needed to s=
plit
> off a -dev list...
>=20
Because the "general" mailing list covers a lot of strategic and related
topics. This list here is a replacement for the multi-address mails of the
hard core of people who want to define and develop the actual Linux-HA
package.

I have seen other projects that have a general and a developer list, and
I'm confident that interest in HA is high enough so that the general list
will not dry out.

Actually I see this list also in conjunction with the soon-to-come shared
CVS repository for Linux-HA.

> Sincerely,
> Lars Marowsky-Br=E9e
> =09
With kind regards
Volker

--
Volker Wiegand Phone: +49 (0) 6196 / 50951-24
SuSE Rhein/Main AG Fax: +49 (0) 6196 / 40 96 07
Mergenthalerallee 45-47 Mobile: +49 (0) 179 / 292 66 76
D-65760 Eschborn E-Mail: Volker.Wiegand@suse.de
++ Only users lose drugs. Or was it the other way round? ++

On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote:

> On 1999-09-29T08:45:40,
> Volker Wiegand <wiegand@suse.de> said:
>=20
> > This new mailing list is a good idea.
>=20
> Actually, may I ask why? ;-) I was subscribed automatically to linux-ha-d=
ev,
> but from the traffic on linux-ha it wasn't exactly obvious we needed to s=
plit
> off a -dev list...
>=20
Because the "general" mailing list covers a lot of strategic and related
topics. This list here is a replacement for the multi-address mails of the
hard core of people who want to define and develop the actual Linux-HA
package.

I have seen other projects that have a general and a developer list, and
I'm confident that interest in HA is high enough so that the general list
will not dry out.

Actually I see this list also in conjunction with the soon-to-come shared
CVS repository for Linux-HA.

> Sincerely,
> Lars Marowsky-Br=E9e
> =09
With kind regards
Volker

--
Volker Wiegand Phone: +49 (0) 6196 / 50951-24
SuSE Rhein/Main AG Fax: +49 (0) 6196 / 40 96 07
Mergenthalerallee 45-47 Mobile: +49 (0) 179 / 292 66 76
D-65760 Eschborn E-Mail: Volker.Wiegand@suse.de
++ Only users lose drugs. Or was it the other way round? ++