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Re: GPG/PGP and Mail
On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, L. Sassaman wrote:

> Wrong. Pine cannot use RFC 2015, and neither can Outlook. The best method
> is to use the regular ASCII armor.

Afaik, pgpenvelope supports rfc2015 and it can be used to teach pine
pgp.

werner

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Re: GPG/PGP and Mail [ In reply to ]
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Werner Koch, at 10:02 +0200 on Wed, 2 Aug 2000, wrote:

> On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, L. Sassaman wrote:
>
> Afaik, pgpenvelope supports rfc2015 and it can be used to teach pine
> pgp.

Unfortunately, AFAIK, pgpenvelope does not do this :P

But I hope to get it in sometime. Honest :)

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Re: GPG/PGP and Mail [ In reply to ]
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On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Frank Tobin wrote:
> Werner Koch, at 10:02 +0200 on Wed, 2 Aug 2000, wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, L. Sassaman wrote:
> >
> > Afaik, pgpenvelope supports rfc2015 and it can be used to teach pine pgp.
>
> Unfortunately, AFAIK, pgpenvelope does not do this :P
> But I hope to get it in sometime. Honest :)

Pine would have to let you get at the MIME parts of incoming messages.
Which it unfortunately doesn't. How can you get around this Pine
limitation?

I know pgpenvelope's procmail filter wouldn't be limited this way,
but you can't decrypt with procmail.

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Re: GPG/PGP and Mail [ In reply to ]
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Billy Donahue, at 11:46 -0400 on Wed, 2 Aug 2000, wrote:

> Pine would have to let you get at the MIME parts of incoming messages.
> Which it unfortunately doesn't. How can you get around this Pine
> limitation?

Glad you asked. Look into the piping (| command) of Pine. It can let me
process a message directly. Things are looking up.

> I know pgpenvelope's procmail filter wouldn't be limited this way,
> but you can't decrypt with procmail.

Eh, but some people might trust their system enough, have a key dedicated
to encrypted email, and keep the key stored on the filesystem. I know I
wouldn't, but I'm not everyone (yet) :)

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Re: GPG/PGP and Mail [ In reply to ]
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L. Sassaman, at 14:55 -0700 on Thu, 3 Aug 2000, wrote:

> Sadly, that's not the case. I've been using pgpenvelope over a year now,
> and love it... but there isn't any way to handle PGP/MIME with pine. It's
> pine's fault, not pgpenvelope's... and due to the licensing on pine's
> source, I am probably not going to bother fixing it.

Erm, well, that's not entirely correct; eventually pgpenvelope is going to
handle PGP/MIME by using the Pipe command to process the raw message. We
just have to get out of the rut of simply using the display-filter option
:)

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Re: GPG/PGP and Mail [ In reply to ]
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On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Frank Tobin wrote:

> Erm, well, that's not entirely correct; eventually pgpenvelope is going to
> handle PGP/MIME by using the Pipe command to process the raw message. We
> just have to get out of the rut of simply using the display-filter option
> :)

I just tried piping to pgpenvelope_decrypt and was dropped into
the viewer as advertised. THe problem is that there is no way to reply to
a decrypted message while in the viewer.

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Re: GPG/PGP and Mail [ In reply to ]
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On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, L. Sassaman wrote:

> Oh, cool! Show us how!

I did it this way. While in the reader type "|pgpenvelope_decrypt"
and it will pipe the message to pgpenvelope.

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Re: GPG/PGP and Mail [ In reply to ]
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John A. Perry, at 19:27 -0500 on Thu, 3 Aug 2000, wrote:

> I just tried piping to pgpenvelope_decrypt and was dropped into
> the viewer as advertised. THe problem is that there is no way to reply to
> a decrypted message while in the viewer.

Ah, yes, this will pose a problem for encrypted messages. I don't know a
solution for this yet.

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Re: GPG/PGP and Mail [ In reply to ]
On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, L. Sassaman wrote:

> Sadly, that's not the case. I've been using pgpenvelope over a year now,
> and love it... but there isn't any way to handle PGP/MIME with pine. It's
> pine's fault, not pgpenvelope's... and due to the licensing on pine's
> source, I am probably not going to bother fixing it.

Anyway, Mutt is better ;-)

It should also be possible to compile Mutt under Cygwin32 to have a
nice text MUA for Windows.

Werner



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