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Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

>On Wednesday 29 September 2004 01:28, Salvador Blasco Llopis wrote:
>
>
>>Hi everybody:
>> I've emerged some games: freedroidrpg and vegastrike. Both run
>>terribly slow in my laptop. It may be opengl, both use it. don't they?
>>I have a P4 processor and 256M RAM. Why they are so slow? Any idea? Do
>>i need more RAM (swap is used when i run them)?
>>
>>
>
>hard to say without any information, isn't it?
>
>You could have at least posted which chip your laptop you are using, what you
>have done to get ogl installed&setup, and output of glxinfo/xorg.log. But
>since you said nothing at all, I would say: you forgot opengl-update blabla,
>or botched your config, or forgot something else. Oh, and vegastrike really
>is a big memory hog. 256mb ram is not very much with this monster (but, it is
>fun to play.. hehe).
>
>
>
i just emerged vegastrike to see what its all about, but.....how to you
run the thing? vega+tab+tab brings back nothing, there is a vsinstall
file but it brings up some error, is there something im missing or
should a plain emerge vegastrike give me a playable game?

nick

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On Wednesday 29 September 2004 01:28, Salvador Blasco Llopis wrote:
> Hi everybody:
> I've emerged some games: freedroidrpg and vegastrike. Both run
> terribly slow in my laptop. It may be opengl, both use it. don't they?
> I have a P4 processor and 256M RAM. Why they are so slow? Any idea? Do
> i need more RAM (swap is used when i run them)?

hard to say without any information, isn't it?

You could have at least posted which chip your laptop you are using, what you
have done to get ogl installed&setup, and output of glxinfo/xorg.log. But
since you said nothing at all, I would say: you forgot opengl-update blabla,
or botched your config, or forgot something else. Oh, and vegastrike really
is a big memory hog. 256mb ram is not very much with this monster (but, it is
fun to play.. hehe).

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Salvador Blasco Llopis wrote:
> Hi everybody:
> I've emerged some games: freedroidrpg and vegastrike. Both run
> terribly slow in my laptop. It may be opengl, both use it. don't they?
> I have a P4 processor and 256M RAM. Why they are so slow? Any idea? Do
> i need more RAM (swap is used when i run them)?
>
> Thanks in advance.

What is your video chip, and what drivers are you using for it?

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gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org wrote:

> Hi everybody:
> I've emerged some games: freedroidrpg and vegastrike. Both run
> terribly slow in my laptop. It may be opengl, both use it. don't they?
> I have a P4 processor and 256M RAM. Why they are so slow? Any idea? Do
> i need more RAM (swap is used when i run them)?
>
>
> Thanks in advance.

Maybe your graphics-card isn't properly installed. Try

$ glxinfo | grep rendering

You should then get

direct rendering: Yes

If not, read http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml






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On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, Nick Smith wrote:

> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 20:05:15 +0000
> From: Nick Smith <nick@computernick.com>
> Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] opengl very slow
>
> Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday 29 September 2004 01:28, Salvador Blasco Llopis wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hi everybody:
> >> I've emerged some games: freedroidrpg and vegastrike. Both run
> >>terribly slow in my laptop. It may be opengl, both use it. don't they?
> >>I have a P4 processor and 256M RAM. Why they are so slow? Any idea? Do
> >>i need more RAM (swap is used when i run them)?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >hard to say without any information, isn't it?
> >
> >You could have at least posted which chip your laptop you are using, what you
> >have done to get ogl installed&setup, and output of glxinfo/xorg.log. But
> >since you said nothing at all, I would say: you forgot opengl-update blabla,
> >or botched your config, or forgot something else. Oh, and vegastrike really
> >is a big memory hog. 256mb ram is not very much with this monster (but, it is
> >fun to play.. hehe).
> >
> >
> >
> i just emerged vegastrike to see what its all about, but.....how to you
> run the thing? vega+tab+tab brings back nothing, there is a vsinstall
> file but it brings up some error, is there something im missing or
> should a plain emerge vegastrike give me a playable game?
>
> nick
>
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Hi,
You should run vsinstall, solve the problems if there are any, and after
it there will a vs* executable which will start the game.
vsinstall will create some files in your $HOME dir, so all user should
do it, who wants play.

Cheers,
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Salvador Blasco Llopis wrote:
> On 02:48 Wed 29 Sep , Mirco Antonio Coralles wrote:
>
>>Maybe your graphics-card isn't properly installed. Try
>>
>>$ glxinfo | grep rendering
>>
>>You should then get
>>
>>direct rendering: Yes
>
>
>
> Yes. You were right. The answer was no.
>
>
>>If not, read http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml
>>
>>
>
>
> I've read it. I have the kernel properly (i think) configured:
> * MTTR is set
> * /dev/agpgart is set (not as module)
> * config_agp_intel is set for my Intel 852GME
> * direct rendiring (i830) is set. The howto says not to set it
> because you should emerge xfree-drm but it doesn't exist in portage.

No, but

x11-drm
Description: DRM Kernel Modules for X11

does, and that's probably what you should use. The how-to you're using
would seem to have been written before X.org became a serious player.
These days, you always have to look out for XFree-specific references
and see if there is now a generic X server alternative/workaround.


> I use xorg.
>
> In my xorg.conf (created by Xorg -configure) says:
<snip>

> but no section "dri" exists. Should i add it? Is everything right?
>
> Thank you very much for your help.

If I was you, I would unset direct rendiring (i830) in the kernel,
recompile and reboot, emerge x11-drm, and re-run xorgconfig.

Hope this helps.

Holly



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On Tuesday 28 September 2004 22:05, Nick Smith wrote:
> Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

>
> i just emerged vegastrike to see what its all about, but.....how to you
> run the thing? vega+tab+tab brings back nothing, there is a vsinstall
> file but it brings up some error, is there something im missing or
> should a plain emerge vegastrike give me a playable game?

I used the vs-install-script from the vs-homepage:

http://vegastrike.sourceforge.net/

I complaint about the bugs in their forums, until they got fixed and have vs
0.42 now running fine.

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with its numerical advantage removed, the Empire would still squash the
Federation like a bug. Accept it. -Michael Wong

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Use vsinstall to set things up. Then you can run vslauncher to select new, save, games, etc. Or just run vegastrike and the game starts.

I found that vslauncher has problems - it won't launch an option selection but complains about something in X not synching (I'm not at the machine so I don't have the exact message).

I saw it mentioned here, merged it last night. It looks like a neat game.

>
> From: "Hemmann, Volker Armin" <volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de>
> Date: 2004/09/29 Wed PM 04:14:15 GMT
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] opengl very slow
>
> On Tuesday 28 September 2004 22:05, Nick Smith wrote:
> > Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
>
> >
> > i just emerged vegastrike to see what its all about, but.....how to you
> > run the thing? vega+tab+tab brings back nothing, there is a vsinstall
> > file but it brings up some error, is there something im missing or
> > should a plain emerge vegastrike give me a playable game?
>
> I used the vs-install-script from the vs-homepage:
>
> http://vegastrike.sourceforge.net/
>
> I complaint about the bugs in their forums, until they got fixed and have vs
> 0.42 now running fine.
>
> --
> Conclusions
> In a straight-up fight, the Empire squashes the Federation like a bug. Even
> with its numerical advantage removed, the Empire would still squash the
> Federation like a bug. Accept it. -Michael Wong
>
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>
>


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On 02:48 Wed 29 Sep , Mirco Antonio Coralles wrote:
>
> Maybe your graphics-card isn't properly installed. Try
>
> $ glxinfo | grep rendering
>
> You should then get
>
> direct rendering: Yes


Yes. You were right. The answer was no.

>
> If not, read http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml
>
>

I've read it. I have the kernel properly (i think) configured:
* MTTR is set
* /dev/agpgart is set (not as module)
* config_agp_intel is set for my Intel 852GME
* direct rendiring (i830) is set. The howto says not to set it
because you should emerge xfree-drm but it doesn't exist in portage.
I use xorg.

In my xorg.conf (created by Xorg -configure) says:

...
Section "Module"
...
Load "dri"
...
Load "glx"
...
EndSection

...


Section "Device"
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "i810"
VendorName "Intel Corp."
BoardName "82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device"
BusID "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection

but no section "dri" exists. Should i add it? Is everything right?

Thank you very much for your help.

On 17:11 Wed 29 Sep , Holly Bostick wrote:
>
> If I was you, I would unset direct rendiring (i830) in the kernel,
> recompile and reboot, emerge x11-drm, and re-run xorgconfig.
>

Calculating dependencies  ...done!
>>> emerge (1 of 1) x11-base/x11-drm-4.3.0-r7 to /
>>> md5 src_uri ;-) xfree-drm-4.3.0-r7-gentoo-0.4.tar.bz2
>>> md5 src_uri ;-) linux-drm-4.3.0-kernelsource-20031202.tar.bz2

!!! ERROR: x11-base/x11-drm-4.3.0-r7 failed.
!!! Function pkg_setup, Line 72, Exitcode 0
!!! Please link //usr/src/linux to 2.4 kernel sources. x11-drm does not yet work with 2.6 kernels, use the DRM in the kernel.

What else can i try?

Salvador Blasco Llopis wrote:
> On 17:11 Wed 29 Sep , Holly Bostick wrote:
>
>>If I was you, I would unset direct rendiring (i830) in the kernel,
>>recompile and reboot, emerge x11-drm, and re-run xorgconfig.
>>
>
>
> Calculating dependencies  ...done!
>
>>>>emerge (1 of 1) x11-base/x11-drm-4.3.0-r7 to /
>>>>md5 src_uri ;-) xfree-drm-4.3.0-r7-gentoo-0.4.tar.bz2
>>>>md5 src_uri ;-) linux-drm-4.3.0-kernelsource-20031202.tar.bz2
>
>
> !!! ERROR: x11-base/x11-drm-4.3.0-r7 failed.
> !!! Function pkg_setup, Line 72, Exitcode 0
> !!! Please link //usr/src/linux to 2.4 kernel sources. x11-drm does not yet work with 2.6 kernels, use the DRM in the kernel.
>
> What else can i try?

what chip do you have on your videocard?

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gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org wrote:

> On 02:48 Wed 29 Sep , Mirco Antonio Coralles wrote:
>>
>> Maybe your graphics-card isn't properly installed. Try
>>
>> $ glxinfo | grep rendering
>>
>> You should then get
>>
>> direct rendering: Yes
>
>
>
>
> Yes. You were right. The answer was no.
>
>
>>
>> If not, read http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml
>>
>>
>
>
> I've read it. I have the kernel properly (i think) configured:
> * MTTR is set
> * /dev/agpgart is set (not as module)
> * config_agp_intel is set for my Intel 852GME
> * direct rendiring (i830) is set. The howto says not to set it
> because you should emerge xfree-drm but it doesn't exist in portage.
> I use xorg.
>
>
> In my xorg.conf (created by Xorg -configure) says:
>
>
> ....
> Section "Module"
> ...
> Load "dri"
> ...
> Load "glx"
> ...
> EndSection
>
>
> ....
>
>
>
>
> Section "Device"
> Identifier "Card0"
> Driver "i810"
> VendorName "Intel Corp."
> BoardName "82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device"
> BusID "PCI:0:2:0"
> EndSection
>
>
> but no section "dri" exists. Should i add it? Is everything right?
>
If you now get "yes" instead of "no" it should be ok.
If not:

Configure and recompile your kernel+modules exactly like it is described
in the howto. Restart into your new kernel then and add the line
VIDEO_CARDS="your_card" to our /etc/make.conf. After that emerge
x11-drm. Now add

Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection

to the end of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restart X. I think this should
work ....


>
> Thank you very much for your help.
>
>
>
No problem,
antonio


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On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 07:25:57PM +0000, Salvador Blasco Llopis wrote:
> Calculating dependencies  ...done!
> >>> emerge (1 of 1) x11-base/x11-drm-4.3.0-r7 to /
> >>> md5 src_uri ;-) xfree-drm-4.3.0-r7-gentoo-0.4.tar.bz2
> >>> md5 src_uri ;-) linux-drm-4.3.0-kernelsource-20031202.tar.bz2
>
> !!! ERROR: x11-base/x11-drm-4.3.0-r7 failed.
> !!! Function pkg_setup, Line 72, Exitcode 0
> !!! Please link //usr/src/linux to 2.4 kernel sources. x11-drm does not yet work with 2.6 kernels, use the DRM in the kernel.
>
> What else can i try?

emerge sync
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge x11-drm

I get x11-drm-20040827, which works with 2.6..

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