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Billy Holmes wrote:

> Andy Herrman wrote:
>
>> 1) Be able to mount as a USB 2.0 HD
>
>
> My biggest headache with my Archos mp3 player was that it was only USB
> 1.1. I have a USB drive that mounts perfectly under USB 2.0 that I use
> for all my mp3's. If anyone knows how to upgrade my Archos to USB 2.0
> I'd be willing to listen (even if it involves a soldering iron).
>
>> 2) Have some piece of software that can manage music (like iTunes does
>> preferably, with ratings and such). This would need to be able to
>> export playlists in M3U format
>
>
> I'm not sure about the m3u format, but I've tried a few mp3
> players/managers, and I finally settled on madman. All the songs I
> have are from my or my wife's cd collection. I have 32,000 songs (with
> a few duplicates). Madman makes it easy to sort, make playlists and
> play them with xmms.
>
>> 3) Be able to rip CDs to OGG
>
>
> I actually haven't ripped any CD's from linux. All the songs where
> done using Music Match Jukebox while I still had windows installed.
> Now that I don't run Windows, I actually haven't ripped any new CD's
> lately.
>
I use "grip", and I like it, you can configure which encoder to use.

Francisco

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Billy Holmes wrote:

> Andy Herrman wrote:
>
>> Madman looks pretty good for managing the music, but I didn't see any
>> way to export the playlists. WIthout being able to export the
>
>
> I believe xmms will save that playlist, though I don't know in what
> format... I'll try it out when I get home tonight.
>
>

m3u format

Francisco

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Andy Herrman wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 16:24:13 -0400, Billy Holmes <billy@gonoph.net> wrote:
>
>
>>I believe xmms will save that playlist, though I don't know in what
>>format... I'll try it out when I get home tonight.
>>
>>
>>
>
>If you can get the playlist into xmms then that should be fine. M3U
>is the playlist format Winamp uses, so XMMS also uses it (afaik). If
>that does work then I'll be pretty happy, as I am already used to
>using XMMS (have lots of keyboard shortcuts set up for it).
>
>Thanks!
>
> -Andy
>
>

Just open xmms, open it's playlist, add a directory (for example) and
save the list

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As grip lets you choose a command line encoder and its parameters, you
can build a script for encoding and appending music details to a list ;-)

Francisco


David D. Rea wrote:

>I, too, am a `grip` afficionado. It mixes very well with public library
>CDs that are too scratched to be playable in a normal CD player. Of
>course, that's cdparanoia doing the work, and grip is just the front
>end, but it makes for a nice combo.
>
>DDR
>
>On Fri, 2004-09-10 at 15:16, Billy Holmes wrote:
>
>
>>Andy Herrman wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>1) Be able to mount as a USB 2.0 HD
>>>
>>>
>>My biggest headache with my Archos mp3 player was that it was only USB
>>1.1. I have a USB drive that mounts perfectly under USB 2.0 that I use
>>for all my mp3's. If anyone knows how to upgrade my Archos to USB 2.0
>>I'd be willing to listen (even if it involves a soldering iron).
>>
>>
>>
>>>2) Have some piece of software that can manage music (like iTunes does
>>>preferably, with ratings and such). This would need to be able to
>>>export playlists in M3U format
>>>
>>>
>>I'm not sure about the m3u format, but I've tried a few mp3
>>players/managers, and I finally settled on madman. All the songs I have
>>are from my or my wife's cd collection. I have 32,000 songs (with a few
>>duplicates). Madman makes it easy to sort, make playlists and play them
>>with xmms.
>>
>>
>>
>>>3) Be able to rip CDs to OGG
>>>
>>>
>>I actually haven't ripped any CD's from linux. All the songs where done
>>using Music Match Jukebox while I still had windows installed. Now that
>>I don't run Windows, I actually haven't ripped any new CD's lately.
>>
>>


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Andy Herrman wrote:

> 1) Be able to mount as a USB 2.0 HD

My biggest headache with my Archos mp3 player was that it was only USB
1.1. I have a USB drive that mounts perfectly under USB 2.0 that I use
for all my mp3's. If anyone knows how to upgrade my Archos to USB 2.0
I'd be willing to listen (even if it involves a soldering iron).

> 2) Have some piece of software that can manage music (like iTunes does
> preferably, with ratings and such). This would need to be able to
> export playlists in M3U format

I'm not sure about the m3u format, but I've tried a few mp3
players/managers, and I finally settled on madman. All the songs I have
are from my or my wife's cd collection. I have 32,000 songs (with a few
duplicates). Madman makes it easy to sort, make playlists and play them
with xmms.

> 3) Be able to rip CDs to OGG

I actually haven't ripped any CD's from linux. All the songs where done
using Music Match Jukebox while I still had windows installed. Now that
I don't run Windows, I actually haven't ripped any new CD's lately.


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I, too, am a `grip` afficionado. It mixes very well with public library
CDs that are too scratched to be playable in a normal CD player. Of
course, that's cdparanoia doing the work, and grip is just the front
end, but it makes for a nice combo.

DDR

On Fri, 2004-09-10 at 15:16, Billy Holmes wrote:
> Andy Herrman wrote:
>
> > 1) Be able to mount as a USB 2.0 HD
>
> My biggest headache with my Archos mp3 player was that it was only USB
> 1.1. I have a USB drive that mounts perfectly under USB 2.0 that I use
> for all my mp3's. If anyone knows how to upgrade my Archos to USB 2.0
> I'd be willing to listen (even if it involves a soldering iron).
>
> > 2) Have some piece of software that can manage music (like iTunes does
> > preferably, with ratings and such). This would need to be able to
> > export playlists in M3U format
>
> I'm not sure about the m3u format, but I've tried a few mp3
> players/managers, and I finally settled on madman. All the songs I have
> are from my or my wife's cd collection. I have 32,000 songs (with a few
> duplicates). Madman makes it easy to sort, make playlists and play them
> with xmms.
>
> > 3) Be able to rip CDs to OGG
>
> I actually haven't ripped any CD's from linux. All the songs where done
> using Music Match Jukebox while I still had windows installed. Now that
> I don't run Windows, I actually haven't ripped any new CD's lately.
>
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Thanks. I'll try those when I get back to my appartment.

Madman looks pretty good for managing the music, but I didn't see any
way to export the playlists. WIthout being able to export the
playlists the app isn't very useful for what I need. Though I may
have just missed the option (and hey, it's OSS, so if I feel bored one
day maybe I'll add it).

Any other music management apps that people know of? I saw amarok in
portage. Their website claimed to be the best linux player, but I
tend to be skeptical of those comments. Anyone know if it's any good?

Thanks!

-Andy

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Andy Herrman wrote:

> Madman looks pretty good for managing the music, but I didn't see any
> way to export the playlists. WIthout being able to export the

I believe xmms will save that playlist, though I don't know in what
format... I'll try it out when I get home tonight.

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On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 16:19:28 -0500, Bill Davidson <harley7@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>
>
> On 15:22 Fri 10 Sep , Andy Herrman wrote:
> > I recently got myself an iRiver iHP-120 mp3 player. It has 20 Gigs,
> > and can play ogg. I want to start re-ripping my music to ogg, and am
> > wondering what everyone's preferred ripper is.
> >
> > Eventually I want to be able to use this player exclusively from
> > Linux. In order to do this I would need the following:
> >
> > 1) Be able to mount as a USB 2.0 HD
> > 2) Have some piece of software that can manage music (like iTunes does
> > preferably, with ratings and such). This would need to be able to
> > export playlists in M3U format
> > 3) Be able to rip CDs to OGG
> >
> > I know the first and third requirements should be relatively easy.
> > However, I don't know what kind of software is out there that could
> > fulfill requirement 2. What apps do everyone here use for this? Any
> > suggestions, things to look out for? Thanks!
>
> I've used grip before, but when I went to merge it, I didn't like it's
> dependancy list. So I did some googling and found this:
> http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200407/audio-rip-how-to.html
>
> You probably want something that's way more automated than that, but I thought
> I'd throw it out there anyway;)
>
> Bill
>
>
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That's basically the way I used to rip MP3s, but I haven't done it
that way in a while.
Having a GUI tool would be preferable, as I'm feeling lazy (too lazy
to use command line tools, but not too lazy to consider adding
functionality to madman...strange type of lazyness...)

I"ll see if grip manages to emerge. I also found arson and ripperX..
I'll see if they're any good. I used RipperX a couple years ago, but
wasn't impressed. I've used arson to burn CDs a couple times, but
never to rip, so I don't know if it's any good.

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Andy Herrman wrote:

> If you can get the playlist into xmms then that should be fine. M3U
> is the playlist format Winamp uses, so XMMS also uses it (afaik). If
> that does work then I'll be pretty happy, as I am already used to
> using XMMS (have lots of keyboard shortcuts set up for it).

well, in madman, make your playlist and hit F9 (I think), and it will be
exported to xmms and start playing. From there, you can just save it,
and you're good to go.

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On 10 Sep 2004, at 13:24, Billy Holmes wrote:
> Andy Herrman wrote:
>> Madman looks pretty good for managing the music, but I didn't see any
>> way to export the playlists. WIthout being able to export the
>
> I believe xmms will save that playlist, though I don't know in what
> format... I'll try it out when I get home tonight.

.M3U

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 16:24:13 -0400, Billy Holmes <billy@gonoph.net> wrote:
>
> I believe xmms will save that playlist, though I don't know in what
> format... I'll try it out when I get home tonight.
>

If you can get the playlist into xmms then that should be fine. M3U
is the playlist format Winamp uses, so XMMS also uses it (afaik). If
that does work then I'll be pretty happy, as I am already used to
using XMMS (have lots of keyboard shortcuts set up for it).

Thanks!

-Andy

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Andy Herrman wrote:

> 3) Be able to rip CDs to OGG

I use grip for that.

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On 15:22 Fri 10 Sep , Andy Herrman wrote:
> I recently got myself an iRiver iHP-120 mp3 player. It has 20 Gigs,
> and can play ogg. I want to start re-ripping my music to ogg, and am
> wondering what everyone's preferred ripper is.
>
> Eventually I want to be able to use this player exclusively from
> Linux. In order to do this I would need the following:
>
> 1) Be able to mount as a USB 2.0 HD
> 2) Have some piece of software that can manage music (like iTunes does
> preferably, with ratings and such). This would need to be able to
> export playlists in M3U format
> 3) Be able to rip CDs to OGG
>
> I know the first and third requirements should be relatively easy.
> However, I don't know what kind of software is out there that could
> fulfill requirement 2. What apps do everyone here use for this? Any
> suggestions, things to look out for? Thanks!

I've used grip before, but when I went to merge it, I didn't like it's
dependancy list. So I did some googling and found this:
http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200407/audio-rip-how-to.html

You probably want something that's way more automated than that, but I thought
I'd throw it out there anyway;)

Bill

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quoth the Andy Herrman:
> I recently got myself an iRiver iHP-120 mp3 player. It has 20 Gigs,

The iRiver supports m3u playlists, which as mentioned are easily saved using
xmms. I generally right-click in the playlist window and select 'playlist ->
save list'. Here is a link with more info on using the iRiver on Linux:
http://lonelymachines.org/iriver.html

> 3) Be able to rip CDs to OGG

No one has mentioned it yet so I'll just mention ripperX. It is highly
configurable, giving you the choice of cdparanoia or cdda2wav for ripping
cd's, and the choice of numerous mp3 encoders and of course oggenc. Basically
it scans your system to see what you have, and if it finds it, it puts it in
the option menu for you to choose. Also, ripperX performs CDDB lookups for
automatic id3 tagging, and has configurable filenames, ie:

artist - track # - track title.ogg

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On September 10, 2004 03:22 pm, Andy Herrman wrote:
> I recently got myself an iRiver iHP-120 mp3 player. It has 20 Gigs,
> and can play ogg. I want to start re-ripping my music to ogg, and am
> wondering what everyone's preferred ripper is.
>
> Eventually I want to be able to use this player exclusively from
> Linux. In order to do this I would need the following:
>
> 1) Be able to mount as a USB 2.0 HD
> 2) Have some piece of software that can manage music (like iTunes does
> preferably, with ratings and such). This would need to be able to
> export playlists in M3U format
> 3) Be able to rip CDs to OGG

no one's mentioned it yet, so i will. i use k3b to rip/burn cds. sure it's
overkill if all you need is a cd ripper, but it's got all the handy features:
cddb lookup, id3 v(1|2) encoding, mp3/ogg options, custom file renaming. i
used to use grip, but i found that every time i did (and used the highest
level of paranoia) my cdrom either died (ie. it no longer worked... at all...
ever.) or became permanently flakey.

as for playlist creation etc. i rather like kde's juk. where it lacks in the
occasional inability to play a file (i think that's an arts thing anyway) it
makes up in features. it'll do playlists, keyword searching, id3 editing and
sorting by a number id3 properties. and yes, it creates m3u files.

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there is nothing in its nature to produce happiness.
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A little off-topic, but has anyone had any success with an ipod? I
was thinking of getting one, but I don't wanna use my gf's powerbook
for all my music.


On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 21:42:15 -0400, daniel
<danstemporaryaccount@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> On September 10, 2004 03:22 pm, Andy Herrman wrote:
> > I recently got myself an iRiver iHP-120 mp3 player. It has 20 Gigs,
> > and can play ogg. I want to start re-ripping my music to ogg, and am
> > wondering what everyone's preferred ripper is.
> >
> > Eventually I want to be able to use this player exclusively from
> > Linux. In order to do this I would need the following:
> >
> > 1) Be able to mount as a USB 2.0 HD
> > 2) Have some piece of software that can manage music (like iTunes does
> > preferably, with ratings and such). This would need to be able to
> > export playlists in M3U format
> > 3) Be able to rip CDs to OGG
>
> no one's mentioned it yet, so i will. i use k3b to rip/burn cds. sure it's
> overkill if all you need is a cd ripper, but it's got all the handy features:
> cddb lookup, id3 v(1|2) encoding, mp3/ogg options, custom file renaming. i
> used to use grip, but i found that every time i did (and used the highest
> level of paranoia) my cdrom either died (ie. it no longer worked... at all...
> ever.) or became permanently flakey.
>
> as for playlist creation etc. i rather like kde's juk. where it lacks in the
> occasional inability to play a file (i think that's an arts thing anyway) it
> makes up in features. it'll do playlists, keyword searching, id3 editing and
> sorting by a number id3 properties. and yes, it creates m3u files.
>
> --
> money never made a man happy yet, nor will it.
> there is nothing in its nature to produce happiness.
> the more a man has, the more he wants.
> instead of filling a vacuum, it makes one.
> - ben franklin
>
>
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On September 10, 2004 09:48 pm, Rick Hennigan wrote:
> A little off-topic, but has anyone had any success with an ipod? I
> was thinking of getting one, but I don't wanna use my gf's powerbook
> for all my music.

the ipod is overrated and overpriced. there's lots of media (audio & video)
players out there with just as much (and in some cases more) space on them
for a reasonable price. from what i've seen (no, i don't own one) they can
mount on a linux box via usb as a mass storage device. then you just plug in
your headphones and go. the ipod just has really good marketing.

just did a quick search. rca, creative labs and samsung all have comparable
models (though the ipod is admittedly the sexiest). i'm sure there's more
out there.

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But the ipod is just so darn cool!


On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 00:18:17 -0400, daniel
<danstemporaryaccount@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> On September 10, 2004 09:48 pm, Rick Hennigan wrote:
> > A little off-topic, but has anyone had any success with an ipod? I
> > was thinking of getting one, but I don't wanna use my gf's powerbook
> > for all my music.
>
> the ipod is overrated and overpriced. there's lots of media (audio & video)
> players out there with just as much (and in some cases more) space on them
> for a reasonable price. from what i've seen (no, i don't own one) they can
> mount on a linux box via usb as a mass storage device. then you just plug in
> your headphones and go. the ipod just has really good marketing.
>
> just did a quick search. rca, creative labs and samsung all have comparable
> models (though the ipod is admittedly the sexiest). i'm sure there's more
> out there.
>
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> the low is the foundation upon which the high is laid...
> - lau tzu, "tao te ching: chapter xxxix"
>
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On 10 Sep 2004, at 18:48, Rick Hennigan wrote:
> A little off-topic, but has anyone had any success with an ipod? I
> was thinking of getting one, but I don't wanna use my gf's powerbook
> for all my music.

gtkpod works, though it isn't quite as smooth as iTunes.

Note that you'll have to have hfsplus support in the kernel. Upgrade to
2.6.8.1 (vanilla) if this isn't available on your kernel.

(And usb2 or ieee1394 modules, obviously)

On September 11, 2004 12:44 am, Rick Hennigan wrote:
> But the ipod is just so darn cool!

well ya. i'll give you that. and the commercials are pretty slick too ;-)

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A simple, quick command line ripper is "abcde", available in portage.

Bill

On 15:22 Fri 10 Sep , Andy Herrman wrote:
> I recently got myself an iRiver iHP-120 mp3 player. It has 20 Gigs,
> and can play ogg. I want to start re-ripping my music to ogg, and am
> wondering what everyone's preferred ripper is.
>
> Eventually I want to be able to use this player exclusively from
> Linux. In order to do this I would need the following:
>
> 1) Be able to mount as a USB 2.0 HD
> 2) Have some piece of software that can manage music (like iTunes does
> preferably, with ratings and such). This would need to be able to
> export playlists in M3U format
> 3) Be able to rip CDs to OGG
>
> I know the first and third requirements should be relatively easy.
> However, I don't know what kind of software is out there that could
> fulfill requirement 2. What apps do everyone here use for this? Any
> suggestions, things to look out for? Thanks!
>
> -Andy
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On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 21:48:27 -0400, Rick Hennigan <rhennigan@gmail.com> wrote:
> A little off-topic, but has anyone had any success with an ipod? I
> was thinking of getting one, but I don't wanna use my gf's powerbook
> for all my music.

Actually, I used to have an iPod. The reason I got the iRiver is that
the HD died (fell out of my pocket while it was reading from the drive
I think). I didn't have any problems with it, but I used iTunes in
windows to sync to it. Though EphPod was also a good app to sync.
It's a windows app, but it worked through wine just fine (they even
advertise that on their site).

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Quoting Andy Herrman <aherrman@gmail.com>:
> A little off-topic, but has anyone had any success with an ipod? I
> was thinking of getting one, but I don't wanna use my gf's powerbook
> for all my music.

I dont actually have an iPod, but I read somewhere that you can use iTunes
through CodeWeavers CrossoverOffice, which is a commercial product (you can
download a trial) for linux, which allows you to install Win98 into Linux and
run all manor of programs such as photoshop / dreamweaver / msoffice / winamp /
and of course iTunes.

Google it :-)




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