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On 11/04/2023 13:59, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> What does the panel think of these new status messages from portage (~amd64)?

What messages? Where? When? :P

On Tuesday, 11 April 2023 13:28:58 BST Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 11/04/2023 13:59, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > What does the panel think of these new status messages from portage
> > (~amd64)?
> What messages? Where? When? :P

They seem to be a feature of sys-apps/portage-3.0.46 and probably 3.0.45.

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Regards,
Peter.

On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 14:45, Peter Humphrey <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, 11 April 2023 13:28:58 BST Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> > On 11/04/2023 13:59, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > What does the panel think of these new status messages from portage
> > > (~amd64)?
> > What messages? Where? When? :P
>
> They seem to be a feature of sys-apps/portage-3.0.46 and probably 3.0.45.

Nikos' questions still stand :P

Cheers,
Arve

On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 11:59:08 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:

> What does the panel think of these new status messages from portage
> (~amd64)? At first I thought "that's useful", but after a while I
> concluded that it just adds to the clutter on the screen and actually
> impedes my ability to follow progress.

I like it. Previously, I had to wait for the completed counter to
increment before knowing that installation of a package was complete.
It's handy if you need to interrupt an emerge session and don't want to
do it just before Chromium has finished installing :-O

> Perhaps I'm just being a Grumpy Old Man (tm).

See above, some Grumpy Old Men like it ;-)


--
Neil Bothwick

Some cause happiness wherever they go. Others whenever they go.

On Tuesday, 11 April 2023 14:36:27 BST Arve Barsnes wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 14:45, Peter Humphrey <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 11 April 2023 13:28:58 BST Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> > > On 11/04/2023 13:59, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > > What does the panel think of these new status messages from portage
> > > > (~amd64)?
> > >
> > > What messages? Where? When? :P
> >
> > They seem to be a feature of sys-apps/portage-3.0.46 and probably 3.0.45.
>
> Nikos' questions still stand :P

We all know that, when a package is emerged, portage announces the start of
the process, and the start of installation to the live disk. Well, now, it
also announces completion of all work on the package.

That causes another length of introductory string, so now there are three
columns to scan for package numbers.

It's a personal preference, I'm sure - even GOM(s) don't all agree. :)

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Regards,
Peter.

Neil Bothwick wrote:

>?On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 11:59:08 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:

>> What does the panel think of these new status messages from portage
>> (~amd64)? At first I thought "that's useful", but after a while I
>> concluded that it just adds to the clutter on the screen and actually
>> impedes my ability to follow progress.

> I like it. Previously, I had to wait for the completed counter to
> increment before knowing that installation of a package was complete.
> It's handy if you need to interrupt an emerge session and don't want to
> do it just before Chromium has finished installing :-O

>> Perhaps I'm just being a Grumpy Old Man (tm).

> See above, some Grumpy Old Men like it ;-)

Now we get to see
"Emerging package" right before building starts
"Installing package" between building and installing and
"Completed" after a package is really done.

From the viewpoint of this grumpy old guy watching a bunch of servers
doing their weekly update dance, the "Completed" line is much more
interesting than the "Installing", which most of the time only indicates
that the load is switching from CPU to disk I/O.

So when will the "Installing" lines go away for good?

s.
--
Ever wondered how fence fights between pensioners begin?

On 11/04/2023 18:26, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Tuesday, 11 April 2023 14:36:27 BST Arve Barsnes wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 14:45, Peter Humphrey <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, 11 April 2023 13:28:58 BST Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>>>> On 11/04/2023 13:59, Peter Humphrey wrote:
>>>>> What does the panel think of these new status messages from portage
>>>>> (~amd64)?
>>>>
>>>> What messages? Where? When? :P
>>>
>>> They seem to be a feature of sys-apps/portage-3.0.46 and probably 3.0.45.
>>
>> Nikos' questions still stand :P
>
> We all know that, when a package is emerged, portage announces the start of
> the process, and the start of installation to the live disk. Well, now, it
> also announces completion of all work on the package.
>
> That causes another length of introductory string, so now there are three
> columns to scan for package numbers.
>
> It's a personal preference, I'm sure - even GOM(s) don't all agree. :)

Oh, I thought there were actual desktop notifications or something,
which sounded weird. I almost never look the terminal when emerging :P

On 11/04/2023 15:24, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 11:59:08 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
>
>> What does the panel think of these new status messages from portage
>> (~amd64)? At first I thought "that's useful", but after a while I
>> concluded that it just adds to the clutter on the screen and actually
>> impedes my ability to follow progress.
>
> I like it. Previously, I had to wait for the completed counter to
> increment before knowing that installation of a package was complete.
> It's handy if you need to interrupt an emerge session and don't want to
> do it just before Chromium has finished installing :-O
>
>> Perhaps I'm just being a Grumpy Old Man (tm).
>
> See above, some Grumpy Old Men like it ;-)
>
I've just configured konsole to display the current command in the sense
of it displays "emerging x of y package-name" or similar. So that
provides me a nice progress counter, and I only look at the contents of
the console if that's not enough.

Cheers,
Wol