220915 Mark Knecht wrote:
> I don't think PCIe 4.0 would, in this sort of machine,
> have much to do with compile times.
> This level of machine has an NVMe flash drive for the system disk.
> My machine has 2 x 1 TB NVMe SSDs and no mechanical drives.
Thanks lots : that's the crucial advice I was looking for.
I've reviewed what's available at local stores again (Downtown is closest) :
CPU + Mobo : available 220914
( D downtown M midtown N NYork S Scarboro d delivery ; o openbox ) :
CPU : must incl graphix + cooler
AMD :
(1) CPAMD00130 : Ryzen 5 : 5600G : $ 187 (350)
6-Core/12-Thread : 7 nm : PCIe 3.0
Socket AM4 : 3.9 GHz , boost 4.4 GHz
Radeon Graphics : Wraith Stealth Cooler : 65 W
Available 220915 : D 5 M 5 N 10 S 7 d y
(2) CPAMD00141 : Ryzen 5 : 4600G : $ 200
6-Core/12-Thread : 7 nm : PCIe ? (sb 3.0)
Socket AM4 : 3.7 GHz , boost 4.2 GHz
Radeon Graphics : Wraith Stealth Cooler : 65 W
Available 220915 : D 1 M - N 1 S - d y
(3) CPAMD00131 : Ryzen 7 : 5700G : $ 310 (470) : *** looks best ***
8-Core/16-Thread : 7 nm : PCIe 3.0
Socket AM4 : 3.8 GHz , boost 4.6 GHz
Radeon Graphics : Wraith Stealth cooler : 65 W
Available 220915 : D 1 M 1 N 1 S 1 d y
Intel : lowest price w 8 cores ;
doesn't look competitive : 14 nm ; no fan ; $ 110 > AMD 00131 ;
installation challenges : Intel pins are on the mobo, so damage easier ;
it used to be more of a challenge to fit the fan on the CPU w Intel.
(1) CPINT00159 : Intel Core i9-11900K : $ 420 (600) : *** not attractive ***
8-Core/16-Thread : 14 nm : Socket LGA 1200
(Intel 500 + select 400 Series) Unlocked
3.5 GHz , turbo 5.3 GHz : 11th
UHD Graphics 750 : 125 W : no cooler ?
Available 220919 : D 2 M 1 N - S - d y
Mobo: AMD : *** not clear there's much difference ***
(1) MBGIG00135 : Gigabyte : X570 AORUS ELITE : $ 220 (300)
12+2 Phase Digital VRM with DrMOS
Advanced Thermal Design with Enlarge Heatsink
Dual PCIe 4.0 M.2 w Single Thermal Guard
Intel GbE LAN w cFosSpeed, Front USB Type-C, RGB Fusion 2.0
Available 220914 : D 3 M 4 N 6 S 3 d y
(2) MBGIG00261 : Gigabyte : X570S AORUS ELITE : $ 250 (330)
AX AMD X570 DDR4
Wi-Fi 6E : Bluetooth
PCIe 4.0 M.2 : USB 3.2 : ATX
Available 220914 : D 4 M 2 N 9 S 2 d y
(3) MBGIG00260 : Gigabyte : X570S AORUS PRO : $ 280 (390)
AX Socket AM4 AMD X570 DDR4
Wi-Fi 6 Bluetooth
PCIe 4.0 M.2 : USB 3.2 : ATX
Available 220914 : D 2 M 2 N 5 S 1 d y
(4) MBGIG00242 : Gigabyte : X570S AERO G : $ 300 (470)
AMD X570 : 4 x DDR4 DIMM : 128 GB
Intel Wi-Fi 6E
PCIe 4.0 : USB Type-C M.2
Available 220914 : D 2 M 1 N 1 S 1 d y
-- end of review --
Intel seems to offer inferior product for higher price : comparison only.
AMD : I want 8 cores with 16 threads.
I want graphics + cooling included with the CPU.
PCIe 3.0 is adequate for what I do : with 32 GB memory
everything sb compilable there with no need to use the SSD ;
ANB5 (my present machine) has DDR3, so ANB6's DDR4 wb faster.
Price differences aren't important in themselves among these choices.
There is free WiFi where I live, tho' landline mb better for security.
Thanks for the advice so far : further comments are very welcome.
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SUPPORT ___________//___, Philip Webb
ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto
TRANSIT `-O----------O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
> I don't think PCIe 4.0 would, in this sort of machine,
> have much to do with compile times.
> This level of machine has an NVMe flash drive for the system disk.
> My machine has 2 x 1 TB NVMe SSDs and no mechanical drives.
Thanks lots : that's the crucial advice I was looking for.
I've reviewed what's available at local stores again (Downtown is closest) :
CPU + Mobo : available 220914
( D downtown M midtown N NYork S Scarboro d delivery ; o openbox ) :
CPU : must incl graphix + cooler
AMD :
(1) CPAMD00130 : Ryzen 5 : 5600G : $ 187 (350)
6-Core/12-Thread : 7 nm : PCIe 3.0
Socket AM4 : 3.9 GHz , boost 4.4 GHz
Radeon Graphics : Wraith Stealth Cooler : 65 W
Available 220915 : D 5 M 5 N 10 S 7 d y
(2) CPAMD00141 : Ryzen 5 : 4600G : $ 200
6-Core/12-Thread : 7 nm : PCIe ? (sb 3.0)
Socket AM4 : 3.7 GHz , boost 4.2 GHz
Radeon Graphics : Wraith Stealth Cooler : 65 W
Available 220915 : D 1 M - N 1 S - d y
(3) CPAMD00131 : Ryzen 7 : 5700G : $ 310 (470) : *** looks best ***
8-Core/16-Thread : 7 nm : PCIe 3.0
Socket AM4 : 3.8 GHz , boost 4.6 GHz
Radeon Graphics : Wraith Stealth cooler : 65 W
Available 220915 : D 1 M 1 N 1 S 1 d y
Intel : lowest price w 8 cores ;
doesn't look competitive : 14 nm ; no fan ; $ 110 > AMD 00131 ;
installation challenges : Intel pins are on the mobo, so damage easier ;
it used to be more of a challenge to fit the fan on the CPU w Intel.
(1) CPINT00159 : Intel Core i9-11900K : $ 420 (600) : *** not attractive ***
8-Core/16-Thread : 14 nm : Socket LGA 1200
(Intel 500 + select 400 Series) Unlocked
3.5 GHz , turbo 5.3 GHz : 11th
UHD Graphics 750 : 125 W : no cooler ?
Available 220919 : D 2 M 1 N - S - d y
Mobo: AMD : *** not clear there's much difference ***
(1) MBGIG00135 : Gigabyte : X570 AORUS ELITE : $ 220 (300)
12+2 Phase Digital VRM with DrMOS
Advanced Thermal Design with Enlarge Heatsink
Dual PCIe 4.0 M.2 w Single Thermal Guard
Intel GbE LAN w cFosSpeed, Front USB Type-C, RGB Fusion 2.0
Available 220914 : D 3 M 4 N 6 S 3 d y
(2) MBGIG00261 : Gigabyte : X570S AORUS ELITE : $ 250 (330)
AX AMD X570 DDR4
Wi-Fi 6E : Bluetooth
PCIe 4.0 M.2 : USB 3.2 : ATX
Available 220914 : D 4 M 2 N 9 S 2 d y
(3) MBGIG00260 : Gigabyte : X570S AORUS PRO : $ 280 (390)
AX Socket AM4 AMD X570 DDR4
Wi-Fi 6 Bluetooth
PCIe 4.0 M.2 : USB 3.2 : ATX
Available 220914 : D 2 M 2 N 5 S 1 d y
(4) MBGIG00242 : Gigabyte : X570S AERO G : $ 300 (470)
AMD X570 : 4 x DDR4 DIMM : 128 GB
Intel Wi-Fi 6E
PCIe 4.0 : USB Type-C M.2
Available 220914 : D 2 M 1 N 1 S 1 d y
-- end of review --
Intel seems to offer inferior product for higher price : comparison only.
AMD : I want 8 cores with 16 threads.
I want graphics + cooling included with the CPU.
PCIe 3.0 is adequate for what I do : with 32 GB memory
everything sb compilable there with no need to use the SSD ;
ANB5 (my present machine) has DDR3, so ANB6's DDR4 wb faster.
Price differences aren't important in themselves among these choices.
There is free WiFi where I live, tho' landline mb better for security.
Thanks for the advice so far : further comments are very welcome.
--
========================,,============================================
SUPPORT ___________//___, Philip Webb
ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto
TRANSIT `-O----------O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca