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Mike Frysinger wrote:
> ive been sending private e-mails as i didnt want to make a lot of noise, but
> many of the comments i make i imagine would be applicable to a lot of
> people ... i also see others doing reviews and such
>
> how do people feel about responses ? keep them all on gentoo-dev or start a
> new list just for reviews ?
> -mike
I don't think we need yet another list, we have far too many as it is. -dev is
for discussion, it should be here.

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On Tuesday 18 September 2007 01:33:33 Mike Frysinger wrote:
> ive been sending private e-mails as i didnt want to make a lot of noise,
> but many of the comments i make i imagine would be applicable to a lot of
> people ... i also see others doing reviews and such
>
> how do people feel about responses ? keep them all on gentoo-dev or start
> a new list just for reviews ?

You could use the gentoo-devhelp list which has been promised on bug #130886.

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130886

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On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 01:38:15AM +0200, Bo ??rsted Andresen wrote:
> On Tuesday 18 September 2007 01:33:33 Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > ive been sending private e-mails as i didnt want to make a lot of noise,
> > but many of the comments i make i imagine would be applicable to a lot of
> > people ... i also see others doing reviews and such
> >
> > how do people feel about responses ? keep them all on gentoo-dev or start
> > a new list just for reviews ?
> You could use the gentoo-devhelp list which has been promised on bug #130886.
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130886
antarus requested "-dev-help" before the -project and -dev-announce
lists were created, and was not impressed that it couldn't be exactly
-dev-help.

Anyway, the stated goals for that list were to be a place for
communication between advanced users and developers to interact. Review
of commits would best belong on -dev, where a higher proportion of
developers would read the reviewing.

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Am 18.09.2007 um 01:33 schrieb Mike Frysinger:

> ive been sending private e-mails as i didnt want to make a lot of
> noise, but
> many of the comments i make i imagine would be applicable to a lot of
> people ... i also see others doing reviews and such

/me also likes reading them on this list.

If anyone wants to filter them, procmailing [gentoo-dev].*[gentoo-
commits] will do.

Robert

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* Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org> [07/09/17 19:33 -0400]:
> how do people feel about responses ? keep them all on gentoo-dev or start a
> new list just for reviews ?

IMHO this list is a good place for the responses, so that
every dev can learn from them. Don't keep them in private
only. I can add an appropriate Reply-To in the
commit-messages, so that the replies show up here.

Thanks a lot for reviewing!

Regards, Lars

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On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 01:28:54AM +0200, Lars Weiler wrote:
> IMHO this list is a good place for the responses, so that
> every dev can learn from them. Don't keep them in private
> only. I can add an appropriate Reply-To in the
> commit-messages, so that the replies show up here.
Reply-To on gentoo-commits is already set to gentoo-dev@lists.g.o

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* Robin H. Johnson <robbat2@gentoo.org> [07/09/18 17:23 -0700]:
> Reply-To on gentoo-commits is already set to gentoo-dev@lists.g.o

I guess this is set by the mailing-list-software? That
collides with https://bugs.gentoo.org/193376.

Regards, Lars

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Lars Weiler wrote:
> * Robin H. Johnson <robbat2@gentoo.org> [07/09/18 17:23 -0700]:
>> Reply-To on gentoo-commits is already set to gentoo-dev@lists.g.o
>
> I guess this is set by the mailing-list-software? That
> collides with https://bugs.gentoo.org/193376.
>
> Regards, Lars
>

Please keep the commit reviews coming on gentoo-dev.

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* Jeffrey Gardner <je_fro@gentoo.org> [07/09/24 10:12 -0500]:
> Please keep the commit reviews coming on gentoo-dev.

I will not change that. The bug requests to send the
commit review to the original author as well. That
decreases manual work for our main-reviewers as they
currently have to add the author into Cc manually.

Regards, Lars

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On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 11:40:40AM +0200, Lars Weiler wrote:
> * Robin H. Johnson <robbat2@gentoo.org> [07/09/18 17:23 -0700]:
> > Reply-To on gentoo-commits is already set to gentoo-dev@lists.g.o
> I guess this is set by the mailing-list-software? That
> collides with https://bugs.gentoo.org/193376.
That was filed after the original creations of the commit mail system.
Anyway, it's moot now, I updated the code to set Reply-To to both the
list and the committer per that bug.

However that is still going to suck, because now folk that ARE
subscribed to gentoo-dev that get commit-reviewed are going to get
duplicates. Additionally, responses after the first review that are on
the list won't be seen by a non-subscribed dev.

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On Tuesday 25 September 2007, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> However that is still going to suck, because now folk that ARE
> subscribed to gentoo-dev that get commit-reviewed are going to get
> duplicates.

i dont think so ... i'm pretty sure the default mailer settings are to not
post duplicates

at least, i dont recall ever seeing duplicates when someone e-mailed
gentoo-dev and cc-ed me

> Additionally, responses after the first review that are on
> the list won't be seen by a non-subscribed dev.

reply-all !
-mike

Mike Frysinger wrote:
> ive been sending private e-mails as i didnt want to make a lot of noise, but
> many of the comments i make i imagine would be applicable to a lot of
> people ... i also see others doing reviews and such
>
> how do people feel about responses ? keep them all on gentoo-dev or start a
> new list just for reviews ?

I've found the private and public reviewing very helpful. Unless someone has a
complaint I'd say keep them here, though if gentoo-dev-help ever does go
through I think that would be the best place to do it.

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