As asked from Jeremy Harris <jgh@wizmail.org>, I am sending some log
lines and part of /etc/aliases.
I sent 2 messages to the list I'm on.
On the first message I put myself in the Bcc field (that's what I
usually do)
2023-11-06 16:30:38 *1r05Is-003wbk-2b* <= lf@ele.puc-rio.br
<mailto:lf@ele.puc-rio.br> H=x.xx.xxx ([127.0.0.1]) [My.ip.addr]
P=esmtpsa X=TLS1.3:TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128 CV=no
A=dovecot_plain:lf S=978
id=dcf6f987-3539-4e7d-9e3b-74a53d8e26fd@ele.puc-rio.br T="#TESTE#"
from <lf@ele.puc-rio.br> fot the_list@ele.puc-rio.br *lf@ele.puc-rio.br
*And received the message (once):
2023-11-06 16:30:38 1r05Is-003wbk-2b => lf <the_list@ele.puc-rio.br>
F=<lf@ele.puc-rio.br> R=localuser T=local_delivery S=1117 QT=0s DT=0s
After, I sent a second test message without Bcc
2023-11-06 16:36:15 *1r05OJ-003wv4-1V* <= lf@ele.puc-rio.br
H=x.xx.xxxr ([127.0.0.1]) [My.ip.address] P=esmtpsa
X=TLS1.3:TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128 CV=no A=dovecot_plain:lf S=3738
id=855a0d8e-b64b-4f94-8215-9874b36633ba@ele.puc-rio.br T="Fwd:
#TESTE 2#" from <lf@ele.puc-rio.br> for the_list@ele.puc-rio.br
And received the message (once) as well:
2023-11-06 16:36:15 *1r05OJ-003wv4-1V* => lf
<the_list@ele.puc-rio.br> F=<lf@ele.puc-rio.br> R=localuser
T=local_delivery S=3857 QT=0s DT=0s
Then indeed exim seems to be sending the message to me as a member of
the list. On the other hand, it seems that exim is ignoring my email
being in the Bcc field, otherwise I would have received 2 copies of the
message: one for being on the list, and a second copy as being on the
Bcc field. I checked in my /var/spool/mail/lf/Maildir/cur and there is
only one copy of the message.
And the exim.conf part that handles /etc/aliases is
system_aliases:
driver = redirect
allow_fail
allow_defer
data = ${lookup{$local_part}lsearch{/etc/aliases}}
# user = exim
file_transport = address_file
pipe_transport = address_pipe
What's going on? Can you help?
Thank you.
On 2023-11-01 10:15, Luis F. V. Gomes via Exim-users wrote:
>
> Hello, Jarland
>
> That's an important observation. One of the members of the list does
> .forward the messages to GMail and may complaint. But the fact is that
> the list I'm talking about does not have any gmail account.
>
> Thank you.
>
> On 2023-11-01 09:50, Jarland Donnell via Exim-users wrote:
>> Hopefully my reply is excess and irrelevant, but it may be worth
>> noting. We most commonly receive this complaint from our users when a
>> Gmail account is on the alias list, and that same Gmail account sends
>> the email to that alias. This being because Gmail uses a conversation
>> view that doesn't drop an unread message in your inbox which is the
>> exact same one you just sent, presumably because you wouldn't need a
>> new unread message in your inbox that you just sent.
>>
>> On 2023-10-30 15:00, Luis F. V. Gomes via Exim-users wrote:
>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> With exim, if you are a member of a list defined in /etc/aliases and
>>> you send a message to this list, you don't receive a copy of the
>>> message you sent. Can we change this?
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Luís Gomes
>>> IT Manager
>>> (55)(21) 3527-1220
>>> Departamento de Engenharia Elétrica
>>> PUC-Rio
>>> R. Marques de S. Vicente 225/401L
>>> 22451-900 - Rio de Janeiro/RJ
>>
>
>
--
Atenciosamente,
Luís Fernando V. Gomes
Gerente de TI
(55)(21) 3527-1220
Departamento de Engenharia Elétrica
PUC-Rio
R. Marques de S. Vicente 225/401L
22451-900 - Rio de Janeiro/RJ
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