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Mat:



I can share a stripped configuration from our own similar system, but I'm
struggling to understand what it is you want to do. Do you want to do
RFC-1483, PPPoA, or PPPoE?



Frank



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[mailto:cisco-bba-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Matteo
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 2:28 PM
To: cisco-bba@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-bba] about Cisco 7206VXR + PA-A6-OC3SMI



Hello,



I have Cisco 7206vxr with NPE-G1 and PA-A6-OC3SMI, I must try to configure
it to terminate some customer by adsl connection..... my atm card is connect
to tlc isp that connect me to my customer and mapped every customer on pvc.
Infact when it terminate activation tell me pvc that I use to configure my
atm card.



Now how configure it ?? I found much... as point-to-point interface or
point-to-multipoint interface.... inside sub-inf I found some istruction as
create-on-demand or static pvc....

Now I have much confusion....



To authenticate my customer now I use pppoe or dedicated vlan.... but it
connect to my by ethernet by wireless or fiber, now with atm how I doing ??



Thank you in advance, king regards



Mat

On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 09:28:15PM +0200, Matteo wrote:
> I have Cisco 7206vxr with NPE-G1 and PA-A6-OC3SMI, I must try to configure
> it to terminate some customer by adsl connection..... my atm card is connect
> to tlc isp that connect me to my customer and mapped every customer on pvc.
> Infact when it terminate activation tell me pvc that I use to configure my
> atm card.
>
> Now how configure it ?? I found much... as point-to-point interface or
> point-to-multipoint interface.... inside sub-inf I found some istruction as
> create-on-demand or static pvc....
> Now I have much confusion....
>
> To authenticate my customer now I use pppoe or dedicated vlan.... but it
> connect to my by ethernet by wireless or fiber, now with atm how I doing ??


The Cisco docs are pretty straight forward and cover several sceanrios
for you.

PPPoE Profiles in Cisco IOS Software Configuration Feature Guides..

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_2t/12_2t15/feature/guide/ftpprfls.html

Pretty much a cookbook of what you need to do.

Combine this together with your aaa radius statements or whatever you
use for authentication and you'd be set.

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Hi,

I would setup my customer in every situation pppoe, pppoa, rfc1483, in
detail:

my business customer: I think in RFC-1483
my private cutomer: I think in PPPoE or PPPoA, what is difference ??

in this moment I use only PPPoE becouse my cutomer bridge to me by wireless
and fiber in ethernet.

I think that cpe how I would install to cutomer support every situation as
pppoe, pppoa, rfc-1483

Thank you so much

Matteo

2008/9/21 Frank Bulk <frnkblk@iname.com>

> Mat:
>
>
>
> I can share a stripped configuration from our own similar system, but I'm
> struggling to understand what it is you want to do. Do you want to do
> RFC-1483, PPPoA, or PPPoE?
>
>
>
> Frank
>
>
>
> *From:* cisco-bba-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:
> cisco-bba-bounces@puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *Matteo
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 20, 2008 2:28 PM
> *To:* cisco-bba@puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* [cisco-bba] about Cisco 7206VXR + PA-A6-OC3SMI
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I have Cisco 7206vxr with NPE-G1 and PA-A6-OC3SMI, I must try to configure
> it to terminate some customer by adsl connection..... my atm card is connect
> to tlc isp that connect me to my customer and mapped every customer on pvc.
> Infact when it terminate activation tell me pvc that I use to configure my
> atm card.
>
>
>
> Now how configure it ?? I found much... as point-to-point interface or
> point-to-multipoint interface.... inside sub-inf I found some istruction as
> create-on-demand or static pvc....
>
> Now I have much confusion....
>
>
>
> To authenticate my customer now I use pppoe or dedicated vlan.... but it
> connect to my by ethernet by wireless or fiber, now with atm how I doing ??
>
>
>
> Thank you in advance, king regards
>
>
>
> Mat
>

On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 03:10:10PM +0200, Matteo wrote:
> I would setup my customer in every situation pppoe, pppoa, rfc1483, in
> detail:
>
> my business customer: I think in RFC-1483
> my private cutomer: I think in PPPoE or PPPoA, what is difference ??

Why mixup RFC1483 (are you bridging or routing??) and PPP at the same
time? It will be easier to grow and manage doing one thing and moving
forward from there. Starting out with every possible method makes it
difficult from the start. PPPoE is the most flexible, and not much of
an issue for customers to deal with.

PPPoA only can run over an ATM PVC. This works fine for an ATM setup,
CPE talking out its ATM PVC to the DSLAM hooked up via ATM back to the
ATM cloud and back down to your LNS/termination box. But it doesn't
work when you do things differently.

PPPoE works over just about any delivery method that has Ethernet on each end.

> in this moment I use only PPPoE becouse my cutomer bridge to me by wireless
> and fiber in ethernet.

Sounds fine, many providers are providing PPPoE only solutions now.

> I think that cpe how I would install to cutomer support every situation as
> pppoe, pppoa, rfc-1483

I think you are going about this the wrong way, and it sounds like you
are trying to make things hard for you.

RFC1483 routing was only used for very small scale deployments over
ATM networks. RFC1483 bridging was used in a bit bigger networks
mainly because providers didn't think customers could afford routers
and only bought bridges, or customers could figure out how to put a
username/password into one.

Now-a-days, all DSL CPE easily support routing, and in our experience,
having the customer program in their username/password in a webpage on
the router is quick and easy, even if they have to call in for a 5
minute support call to get it done. You tend to never hear from them
again about that sort of thing, and you can verify that they connected
right away in the logs.

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> PPPoA only can run over an ATM PVC. This works fine for an ATM setup,
> CPE talking out its ATM PVC to the DSLAM hooked up via ATM back to the
> ATM cloud and back down to your LNS/termination box. But it doesn't
> work when you do things differently.

My ISP connect to by PA-A6-OC3SMI, and it tell me an ATM PVC to every
cutomer, so I can use PPPoA

Now I think to start is most friendly use RFC1483, but I don't know if I
could use routed or bridge....???

in my country the most big telco use RFC1483 but I don't see never our side
but only customer site and I configure connction using this:

interface ATM0
no ip address
no atm ilmi-keepalive
dsl operating-mode auto
!
interface ATM0.1 point-to-point
bandwidth 2048
ip address XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX 255.255.255.252
pvc 8/35
oam-pvc manage
oam retry 5 5 1
encapsulation aal5snap
!

Now I would configure my customer with this example but I don't configure
never other side..... can you send me some example ??
This is is RFC1483 routed or bridge ??

Thank you

Mat

>From the Cisco docs:



RFC 1483 Bridging Implementations

Select one of these RFC 1483 bridging implementations for your Asymmetric
Digital Subscriber Line (ADSL) service.

* Integrated
<http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk175/tk15/technologies_configuration_examp
le09186a008071a5d0.shtml> Routing and Bridging (IRB) -(Recommended) The IRB
feature allows your Cisco DSL Router to bridge traffic in on its ATM
interface (the ADSL interface) and then route that traffic out on its
Ethernet interface. With IRB enabled, the Cisco DSL Router can perform
value-added services such as Network Address Translation (NAT) overload, NAT
Pool, Static NAT, and Dynamic Host Control Protocol (DHCP) Server.
* Pure
<http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk175/tk15/technologies_configuration_examp
le09186a008071a88e.shtml> Bridging -In a Pure Bridging implementation, your
Cisco DSL Router acts as a simple ADSL to Ethernet bridge, and is unable to
provide value-added services.

I think you want to do IRB..



Here's an example:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk175/tk15/technologies_configuration_exampl
e09186a0080093e43.shtml#rfc





Frank



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[mailto:cisco-bba-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Matteo
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 3:05 PM
To: Doug McIntyre
Cc: cisco-bba@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-bba] about Cisco 7206VXR + PA-A6-OC3SMI



> PPPoA only can run over an ATM PVC. This works fine for an ATM setup,
> CPE talking out its ATM PVC to the DSLAM hooked up via ATM back to the
> ATM cloud and back down to your LNS/termination box. But it doesn't
> work when you do things differently.



My ISP connect to by PA-A6-OC3SMI, and it tell me an ATM PVC to every
cutomer, so I can use PPPoA



Now I think to start is most friendly use RFC1483, but I don't know if I
could use routed or bridge....???



in my country the most big telco use RFC1483 but I don't see never our side
but only customer site and I configure connction using this:



interface ATM0
no ip address
no atm ilmi-keepalive
dsl operating-mode auto
!
interface ATM0.1 point-to-point
bandwidth 2048
ip address XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX 255.255.255.252
pvc 8/35
oam-pvc manage
oam retry 5 5 1
encapsulation aal5snap
!



Now I would configure my customer with this example but I don't configure
never other side..... can you send me some example ??

This is is RFC1483 routed or bridge ??



Thank you



Mat

PPPoE and RFC1483 are most popular among the North American ISPs that I'm
aware of, but we use PPPoA.



Frank



From: Matteo [mailto:mr.tetto@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:10 AM
To: Frank Bulk
Cc: cisco-bba@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-bba] about Cisco 7206VXR + PA-A6-OC3SMI



Hi,



I would setup my customer in every situation pppoe, pppoa, rfc1483, in
detail:



my business customer: I think in RFC-1483

my private cutomer: I think in PPPoE or PPPoA, what is difference ??



in this moment I use only PPPoE becouse my cutomer bridge to me by wireless
and fiber in ethernet.



I think that cpe how I would install to cutomer support every situation as
pppoe, pppoa, rfc-1483



Thank you so much



Matteo

2008/9/21 Frank Bulk <frnkblk@iname.com>

Mat:



I can share a stripped configuration from our own similar system, but I'm
struggling to understand what it is you want to do. Do you want to do
RFC-1483, PPPoA, or PPPoE?



Frank



From: cisco-bba-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-bba-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Matteo
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 2:28 PM
To: cisco-bba@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-bba] about Cisco 7206VXR + PA-A6-OC3SMI



Hello,



I have Cisco 7206vxr with NPE-G1 and PA-A6-OC3SMI, I must try to configure
it to terminate some customer by adsl connection..... my atm card is connect
to tlc isp that connect me to my customer and mapped every customer on pvc.
Infact when it terminate activation tell me pvc that I use to configure my
atm card.



Now how configure it ?? I found much... as point-to-point interface or
point-to-multipoint interface.... inside sub-inf I found some istruction as
create-on-demand or static pvc....

Now I have much confusion....



To authenticate my customer now I use pppoe or dedicated vlan.... but it
connect to my by ethernet by wireless or fiber, now with atm how I doing ??



Thank you in advance, king regards



Mat

Hi Frank,

Thank you, next week I try your help....

Bye

Matteo


PPPoE and RFC1483 are most popular among the North American ISPs that I'm
> aware of, but we use PPPoA.
>
>
>
> Frank
>