Mailing List Archive: change helper scripts to use TT?

change helper scripts to use TT?

uwe.voelkeratgmx.de

Apr 1, 2005, 1:20 PM

Post #1 of 8 (5297 views)

Hello,

Catalyst 5 is changing a lot of things - why not change the helper
scripts too? :-)

The module Catalyst::Helper could use TT2 templates instead of here
documents. The good points would be:
+ easier development
+ better customization (for example I could use my own - slightly
modified - templates which already contain the correct author name and
so on, or use different httpd.conf snippet)
+ better pod output for Catalyst::Helper (now it also contains the pod
of the here documents)

Of course there is also a negative point:
- this adds Template to the list of needed modules

Furthermore I would like to have a config file for the helper scripts
which include custom settings that remain after upgrading Catalyst.

What do you think?

Good bye,
Uwe

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Apr 1, 2005, 1:48 PM

Post #2 of 8 (5198 views)

Am 01.04.2005 um 13:16 schrieb Uwe Voelker:

> Hello,
>
> Catalyst 5 is changing a lot of things - why not change the helper
> scripts too? :-)
>
> The module Catalyst::Helper could use TT2 templates instead of here
> documents. The good points would be:
> + easier development
> + better customization (for example I could use my own - slightly
> modified - templates which already contain the correct author name and
> so on, or use different httpd.conf snippet)
> + better pod output for Catalyst::Helper (now it also contains the pod
> of the here documents)
>
> Of course there is also a negative point:
> - this adds Template to the list of needed modules
>
> Furthermore I would like to have a config file for the helper scripts
> which include custom settings that remain after upgrading Catalyst.
>
>
> What do you think?

It's really a hard decision, there are equally as much TT2 people as
Mason ones...

--
sebastian

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Apr 1, 2005, 1:54 PM

Post #3 of 8 (5204 views)

Am 01.04.2005 um 13:49 schrieb Sebastian Riedel:

>
> Am 01.04.2005 um 13:16 schrieb Uwe Voelker:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Catalyst 5 is changing a lot of things - why not change the helper
>> scripts too? :-)
>>
>> The module Catalyst::Helper could use TT2 templates instead of here
>> documents. The good points would be:
>> + easier development
>> + better customization (for example I could use my own - slightly
>> modified - templates which already contain the correct author name
>> and so on, or use different httpd.conf snippet)
>> + better pod output for Catalyst::Helper (now it also contains the
>> pod of the here documents)
>>
>> Of course there is also a negative point:
>> - this adds Template to the list of needed modules
>>
>> Furthermore I would like to have a config file for the helper scripts
>> which include custom settings that remain after upgrading Catalyst.
>>
>>
>> What do you think?

And you're free to release your own helper modules with TT2
dependency....

--
sebastian

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uwe.voelkeratgmx.de

Apr 1, 2005, 1:57 PM

Post #4 of 8 (5201 views)

> It's really a hard decision, there are equally as much TT2 people as
> Mason ones...

Yes, and maintainig two versions of the templates (here doc and tt2)
makes currently no sense.

But the following might be possible:
Using TT2 for development and before making an release converting the
templates into a perl-script. Of course we should ship the templates so
users can make their own adjustments.
I think TT2 is capable of generating a perl-script out of an template
(this is what caching does). But I'm not too sure.

Uwe

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uwe.voelkeratgmx.de

Apr 1, 2005, 1:58 PM

Post #5 of 8 (5202 views)

> And you're free to release your own helper modules with TT2 dependency....

As Catalyst is developing so fast, I would always have to integrate your
changes.

This is an option when Catalyst has become stable.

Uwe

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Apr 1, 2005, 2:09 PM

Post #6 of 8 (5214 views)

Am 01.04.2005 um 13:55 schrieb Uwe Voelker:

>> And you're free to release your own helper modules with TT2
>> dependency....
>
> As Catalyst is developing so fast, I would always have to integrate
> your changes.
>
> This is an option when Catalyst has become stable.

The helper API is quite good, and there are no plans to change it.

--
sebastian

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uwe.voelkeratgmx.de

Apr 2, 2005, 8:24 AM

Post #7 of 8 (5213 views)

Hello Sebastian,

> The helper API is quite good, and there are no plans to change it.

Yes, but the helper generate code which uses the Catalyst API.

Uwe

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Apr 3, 2005, 8:07 AM

Post #8 of 8 (5198 views)

Am 02.04.2005 um 08:21 schrieb Uwe Voelker:

> Hello Sebastian,
>
>> The helper API is quite good, and there are no plans to change it.
>
> Yes, but the helper generate code which uses the Catalyst API.

???

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sebastian