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The implicit behaviour for multiple RewriteCond directives is AND, unless
you use [OR].

So without [OR], all the conditions have to match to apply the rewrite rule.

On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 6:06 PM sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:

> Does the first RewriteCond that fails cause any following RewriteCond
> entries to be skipped?
> (up to the RewriteRule)
>
> I would hope that is the case, but AFAICT it is not explicitly stated.
>
> If it is the case, perhaps it would be worth making explicit?
> (and suggesting that the cheapest checks are done first).
>
> Sebb
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On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 at 23:21, Frank Gingras <thumbs@apache.org> wrote:
>
> The implicit behaviour for multiple RewriteCond directives is AND, unless you use [OR].

Yes, that is documented.

> So without [OR], all the conditions have to match to apply the rewrite rule.

Yes, but are any subsequent conditions evaluated?

> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 6:06 PM sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Does the first RewriteCond that fails cause any following RewriteCond
>> entries to be skipped?
>> (up to the RewriteRule)
>>
>> I would hope that is the case, but AFAICT it is not explicitly stated.
>>
>> If it is the case, perhaps it would be worth making explicit?
>> (and suggesting that the cheapest checks are done first).
>>
>> Sebb
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Do a quick test, and enable the rewrite log. Make sure you use a log level
of 5 to see those details.

On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 6:28 PM sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 at 23:21, Frank Gingras <thumbs@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > The implicit behaviour for multiple RewriteCond directives is AND,
> unless you use [OR].
>
> Yes, that is documented.
>
> > So without [OR], all the conditions have to match to apply the rewrite
> rule.
>
> Yes, but are any subsequent conditions evaluated?
>
> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 6:06 PM sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Does the first RewriteCond that fails cause any following RewriteCond
> >> entries to be skipped?
> >> (up to the RewriteRule)
> >>
> >> I would hope that is the case, but AFAICT it is not explicitly stated.
> >>
> >> If it is the case, perhaps it would be worth making explicit?
> >> (and suggesting that the cheapest checks are done first).
> >>
> >> Sebb
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On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 at 23:33, Frank Gingras <thumbs@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Do a quick test, and enable the rewrite log. Make sure you use a log level of 5 to see those details.

Whilst the test might be quick, setting it up is not.

Does no-one here know the answer?

> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 6:28 PM sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 at 23:21, Frank Gingras <thumbs@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > The implicit behaviour for multiple RewriteCond directives is AND, unless you use [OR].
>>
>> Yes, that is documented.
>>
>> > So without [OR], all the conditions have to match to apply the rewrite rule.
>>
>> Yes, but are any subsequent conditions evaluated?
>>
>> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 6:06 PM sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Does the first RewriteCond that fails cause any following RewriteCond
>> >> entries to be skipped?
>> >> (up to the RewriteRule)
>> >>
>> >> I would hope that is the case, but AFAICT it is not explicitly stated.
>> >>
>> >> If it is the case, perhaps it would be worth making explicit?
>> >> (and suggesting that the cheapest checks are done first).
>> >>
>> >> Sebb
>> >>
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On 2023-01-11 12:58, sebb wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 at 23:33, Frank Gingras <thumbs@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Do a quick test, and enable the rewrite log. Make sure you use a log level of 5 to see those details.
>
> Whilst the test might be quick, setting it up is not.
>
> Does no-one here know the answer?

RewriteRule is evaluated first. If that matches, the RewriteCond
directives are evaluated one at a time. If a condition fails, and there
is no [OR] flag, then the evaluation stops and does not continue to the
next RewriteCond

This is defined in
https://github.com/apache/httpd/blob/trunk/modules/mappers/mod_rewrite.c#L4230
and onwards.

>
>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 6:28 PM sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 at 23:21, Frank Gingras <thumbs@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The implicit behaviour for multiple RewriteCond directives is AND, unless you use [OR].
>>>
>>> Yes, that is documented.
>>>
>>>> So without [OR], all the conditions have to match to apply the rewrite rule.
>>>
>>> Yes, but are any subsequent conditions evaluated?
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 6:06 PM sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Does the first RewriteCond that fails cause any following RewriteCond
>>>>> entries to be skipped?
>>>>> (up to the RewriteRule)
>>>>>
>>>>> I would hope that is the case, but AFAICT it is not explicitly stated.
>>>>>
>>>>> If it is the case, perhaps it would be worth making explicit?
>>>>> (and suggesting that the cheapest checks are done first).
>>>>>
>>>>> Sebb
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On 2023-01-11 13:16, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> On 2023-01-11 12:58, sebb wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 at 23:33, Frank Gingras <thumbs@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Do a quick test, and enable the rewrite log. Make sure you use a log
>>> level of 5 to see those details.
>>
>> Whilst the test might be quick, setting it up is not.
>>
>> Does no-one here know the answer?
>
> RewriteRule is evaluated first. If that matches, the RewriteCond
> directives are evaluated one at a time. If a condition fails, and there
> is no [OR] flag, then the evaluation stops and does not continue to the
> next RewriteCond
>
> This is defined in
> https://github.com/apache/httpd/blob/trunk/modules/mappers/mod_rewrite.c#L4230 and onwards.

FWIW, this is also why %N is only available in the substitution
argument, and not in the pattern argument of a RewriteRule, as %N hasn't
been defined at the pattern matching point of a RewriteRule.

>
>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 6:28 PM sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 at 23:21, Frank Gingras <thumbs@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The implicit behaviour for multiple RewriteCond directives is AND,
>>>>> unless you use [OR].
>>>>
>>>> Yes, that is documented.
>>>>
>>>>> So without [OR], all the conditions have to match to apply the
>>>>> rewrite rule.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but are any subsequent conditions evaluated?
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 6:06 PM sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does the first RewriteCond that fails cause any following RewriteCond
>>>>>> entries to be skipped?
>>>>>> (up to the RewriteRule)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would hope that is the case, but AFAICT it is not explicitly
>>>>>> stated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it is the case, perhaps it would be worth making explicit?
>>>>>> (and suggesting that the cheapest checks are done first).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sebb
>>>>>>
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Thanks, that's very helpful.

Maybe this info could be added to the user docs?

On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 at 12:18, Daniel Gruno <humbedooh@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 2023-01-11 13:16, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> > On 2023-01-11 12:58, sebb wrote:
> >> On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 at 23:33, Frank Gingras <thumbs@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Do a quick test, and enable the rewrite log. Make sure you use a log
> >>> level of 5 to see those details.
> >>
> >> Whilst the test might be quick, setting it up is not.
> >>
> >> Does no-one here know the answer?
> >
> > RewriteRule is evaluated first. If that matches, the RewriteCond
> > directives are evaluated one at a time. If a condition fails, and there
> > is no [OR] flag, then the evaluation stops and does not continue to the
> > next RewriteCond
> >
> > This is defined in
> > https://github.com/apache/httpd/blob/trunk/modules/mappers/mod_rewrite.c#L4230 and onwards.
>
> FWIW, this is also why %N is only available in the substitution
> argument, and not in the pattern argument of a RewriteRule, as %N hasn't
> been defined at the pattern matching point of a RewriteRule.
>
> >
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 6:28 PM sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 at 23:21, Frank Gingras <thumbs@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The implicit behaviour for multiple RewriteCond directives is AND,
> >>>>> unless you use [OR].
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, that is documented.
> >>>>
> >>>>> So without [OR], all the conditions have to match to apply the
> >>>>> rewrite rule.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, but are any subsequent conditions evaluated?
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 6:06 PM sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Does the first RewriteCond that fails cause any following RewriteCond
> >>>>>> entries to be skipped?
> >>>>>> (up to the RewriteRule)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I would hope that is the case, but AFAICT it is not explicitly
> >>>>>> stated.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If it is the case, perhaps it would be worth making explicit?
> >>>>>> (and suggesting that the cheapest checks are done first).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sebb
> >>>>>>
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On Wed, 2023-01-11 at 13:12 +0000, sebb wrote:
> Thanks, that's very helpful.
>
> Maybe this info could be added to the user docs?

There's a useful flow diagram that shows this:

https://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/rewrite/intro.html

Granted, I'm sure it could be made clearer and/or more explicit.


> > > RewriteRule is evaluated first. If that matches, the RewriteCond
> > > directives are evaluated one at a time. If a condition fails, and
> > > there
> > > is no [OR] flag, then the evaluation stops and does not continue
> > > to the
> > > next RewriteCond
> > >
> > > This is defined in
> > > https://github.com/apache/httpd/blob/trunk/modules/mappers/mod_rewrite.c#L4230
> > >  and onwards.
> >
> > FWIW, this is also why %N is only available in the substitution
> > argument, and not in the pattern argument of a RewriteRule, as %N
> > hasn't
> > been defined at the pattern matching point of a RewriteRule.
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 6:28 PM sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 at 23:21, Frank Gingras
> > > > > > <thumbs@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The implicit behaviour for multiple RewriteCond
> > > > > > > directives is AND,
> > > > > > > unless you use [OR].
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, that is documented.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > So without [OR], all the conditions have to match to
> > > > > > > apply the
> > > > > > > rewrite rule.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, but are any subsequent conditions evaluated?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 6:06 PM sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does the first RewriteCond that fails cause any
> > > > > > > > following RewriteCond
> > > > > > > > entries to be skipped?
> > > > > > > > (up to the RewriteRule)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I would hope that is the case, but AFAICT it is not
> > > > > > > > explicitly
> > > > > > > > stated.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If it is the case, perhaps it would be worth making
> > > > > > > > explicit?
> > > > > > > > (and suggesting that the cheapest checks are done
> > > > > > > > first).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sebb
> > > > > > > >
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> On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 at 12:18, Daniel Gruno <humbedooh@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > On 2023-01-11 13:16, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> > > On 2023-01-11 12:58, sebb wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 at 23:33, Frank Gingras <thumbs@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Do a quick test, and enable the rewrite log. Make sure you
> > > > > use a log
> > > > > level of 5 to see those details.
> > > >
> > > > Whilst the test might be quick, setting it up is not.
> > > >
> > > > Does no-one here know the answer?
> > >
> > > RewriteRule is evaluated first. If that matches, the RewriteCond
> > > directives are evaluated one at a time. If a condition fails, and
> > > there
> > > is no [OR] flag, then the evaluation stops and does not continue
> > > to the
> > > next RewriteCond
> > >
> > > This is defined in
> > > https://github.com/apache/httpd/blob/trunk/modules/mappers/mod_rewrite.c#L4230
> > >  and onwards.
> >
> > FWIW, this is also why %N is only available in the substitution
> > argument, and not in the pattern argument of a RewriteRule, as %N
> > hasn't
> > been defined at the pattern matching point of a RewriteRule.
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 6:28 PM sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 at 23:21, Frank Gingras
> > > > > > <thumbs@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The implicit behaviour for multiple RewriteCond
> > > > > > > directives is AND,
> > > > > > > unless you use [OR].
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, that is documented.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > So without [OR], all the conditions have to match to
> > > > > > > apply the
> > > > > > > rewrite rule.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, but are any subsequent conditions evaluated?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 6:06 PM sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does the first RewriteCond that fails cause any
> > > > > > > > following RewriteCond
> > > > > > > > entries to be skipped?
> > > > > > > > (up to the RewriteRule)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I would hope that is the case, but AFAICT it is not
> > > > > > > > explicitly
> > > > > > > > stated.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If it is the case, perhaps it would be worth making
> > > > > > > > explicit?
> > > > > > > > (and suggesting that the cheapest checks are done
> > > > > > > > first).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sebb
> > > > > > > >
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On Wed, 2023-01-11 at 10:15 -0500, rbowen@rcbowen.com wrote:
> On Wed, 2023-01-11 at 13:12 +0000, sebb wrote:
> > Thanks, that's very helpful.
> >
> > Maybe this info could be added to the user docs?
>
> There's a useful flow diagram that shows this:
>
> https://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/rewrite/intro.html
>
> Granted, I'm sure it could be made clearer and/or more explicit.


How's this:

[rbowen@avistetto:manual/mod]$ svn diff

Index: mod_rewrite.xml
===================================================================
--- mod_rewrite.xml (revision 1906604)
+++ mod_rewrite.xml (working copy)
@@ -1059,6 +1059,13 @@
the homepage is served. Otherwise, the standard page is
served.
</p>

+ <p>By default, multiple <directive>RewriteCond</directive>s
+ are evaluated in sequence with an implied logical
<strong>AND</strong>.
+ If a condition fails, in the absence of an
+ <strong><code>OR</code></strong> flag, the entire ruleset is
abandoned,
+ and further conditions are not evaluated.
+ </p>
+
</usage>

</directivesynopsis>



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On Wed, 2023-01-11 at 10:26 -0500, rbowen@rcbowen.com wrote:
> On Wed, 2023-01-11 at 10:15 -0500, rbowen@rcbowen.com wrote:
> > On Wed, 2023-01-11 at 13:12 +0000, sebb wrote:
> > > Thanks, that's very helpful.
> > >
> > > Maybe this info could be added to the user docs?
> >
> > There's a useful flow diagram that shows this:
> >
> > https://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/rewrite/intro.html
> >
> > Granted, I'm sure it could be made clearer and/or more explicit.
>
>
> How's this:

Committed in r1906605 in trunk. I'll put that in the 2.4 docs also in a
moment.


>
> [rbowen@avistetto:manual/mod]$ svn diff
>
> Index: mod_rewrite.xml
> ===================================================================
> --- mod_rewrite.xml     (revision 1906604)
> +++ mod_rewrite.xml     (working copy)
> @@ -1059,6 +1059,13 @@
>          the homepage is served. Otherwise, the standard page is
> served.
>          </p>
>  
> +        <p>By default, multiple <directive>RewriteCond</directive>s
> +        are evaluated in sequence with an implied logical
> <strong>AND</strong>.
> +        If a condition fails, in the absence of an
> +        <strong><code>OR</code></strong> flag, the entire ruleset is
> abandoned,
> +        and further conditions are not evaluated.
> +        </p>
> +
>  </usage>
>  
>  </directivesynopsis>
>
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On Wed, 2023-01-11 at 10:33 -0500, rbowen@rcbowen.com wrote:
> On Wed, 2023-01-11 at 10:26 -0500, rbowen@rcbowen.com wrote:
> > On Wed, 2023-01-11 at 10:15 -0500, rbowen@rcbowen.com wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2023-01-11 at 13:12 +0000, sebb wrote:
> > > > Thanks, that's very helpful.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe this info could be added to the user docs?
> > >
> > > There's a useful flow diagram that shows this:
> > >
> > > https://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/rewrite/intro.html
> > >
> > > Granted, I'm sure it could be made clearer and/or more explicit.
> >
> >
> > How's this:
>
> Committed in r1906605 in trunk. I'll put that in the 2.4 docs also in
> a
> moment.

In 2.4 docs in r1906607.

Thanks for driving this improvement.

--Rich



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Thanks!

On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 at 15:42, <rbowen@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2023-01-11 at 10:33 -0500, rbowen@rcbowen.com wrote:
> > On Wed, 2023-01-11 at 10:26 -0500, rbowen@rcbowen.com wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2023-01-11 at 10:15 -0500, rbowen@rcbowen.com wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 2023-01-11 at 13:12 +0000, sebb wrote:
> > > > > Thanks, that's very helpful.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe this info could be added to the user docs?
> > > >
> > > > There's a useful flow diagram that shows this:
> > > >
> > > > https://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/rewrite/intro.html
> > > >
> > > > Granted, I'm sure it could be made clearer and/or more explicit.
> > >
> > >
> > > How's this:
> >
> > Committed in r1906605 in trunk. I'll put that in the 2.4 docs also in
> > a
> > moment.
>
> In 2.4 docs in r1906607.
>
> Thanks for driving this improvement.
>
> --Rich
>
>
>
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