Mailing List Archive: Pipe trick should work differently

Pipe trick should work differently

Feb 12, 2003, 2:26 PM

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IMHO when I write

[[Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines|]]

this should not be turned into

[[Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines|Policies and guidelines]]

after saving. Instead, the link should stay the same, but the "Wikipedia:"
part should still be omitted. Otherwise, on many pages that have lots of
links with the namespace prefix omitted, you get lots and lots and lots of
redundant information, and it becomes very hard to read. The same goes for

[.[.The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (movie)|]]

which should not become

[.[.The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (movie)|The
Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring]].

The (movie) part should instead be omitted "on the fly". This also makes
it easier to change the pipe trick behavior should that ever be necessary.
I believe this behavior would be more intuitive. In fact, I expected it to
work this way and was surprised when I noticed that it doesn't.

A comparison would be the "slash trick" which I have developed for
subpages.

[[/foo/]]

becomes a link called "foo" to the subpage /foo of the current page, but
it is *not* converted into [[/foo|foo]] for this purpose.

Thoughts?

Regards,

Erik

Re: Pipe trick should work differently [ In reply to ]

jasonr at bomis

Feb 12, 2003, 3:22 PM

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I have made myself moderator for the announce-l list...

Jason

elian wrote:

> erik_moeller@gmx.de (Erik Moeller) writes:
>
> > IMHO when I write
> >
> > [[Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines|]]
> >
> > this should not be turned into
> >
> > [[Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines|Policies and guidelines]]
> >
> > after saving. Instead, the link should stay the same, but the "Wikipedia:"
> > part should still be omitted.
> > Thoughts?
>
> I think you are right. My question: when was this nice little feature
> introduced and where was it announced? I would have documented it for the
> German wikipedia if I had known it.
>
> [x] announce-l@wikipedia.org would be a good place, even if there is no
> moderator...
>
> greetings,
> elian
>
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Re: Pipe trick should work differently [ In reply to ]

elian at gmx

Feb 12, 2003, 4:02 PM

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erik_moeller@gmx.de (Erik Moeller) writes:

> IMHO when I write
>
> [[Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines|]]
>
> this should not be turned into
>
> [[Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines|Policies and guidelines]]
>
> after saving. Instead, the link should stay the same, but the "Wikipedia:"
> part should still be omitted.
> Thoughts?

I think you are right. My question: when was this nice little feature
introduced and where was it announced? I would have documented it for the
German wikipedia if I had known it.

[x] announce-l@wikipedia.org would be a good place, even if there is no
moderator...

greetings,
elian

Re: Pipe trick should work differently [ In reply to ]

elian at gmx

Feb 12, 2003, 5:38 PM

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Jason Richey <jasonr@bomis.com> writes:

> I have made myself moderator for the announce-l list...

Thank you, Jason :-) I put a description of announce-l on
[[Wikipedia:Mailinglists]]

add apologies to Giskart for the neglection of his initial proposal...

greetings,
elian

Re: Pipe trick should work differently [ In reply to ]

engels at uni-koblenz

Feb 17, 2003, 5:33 AM

Post #5 of 5 (204 views)

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One advantage that Erik does not mention, would be that keeping the pipe
trick in the page text would make it possible for the savvy user who does not
know it to find it out him- or herself. Under the current situation, only
those 'in the know' (or who happen to find a help page where it is explained)
can use it.

Andre Engels

On 12 Feb 2003, Erik Moeller wrote:

> IMHO when I write
>
> [[Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines|]]
>
> this should not be turned into
>
> [[Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines|Policies and guidelines]]
>
> after saving. Instead, the link should stay the same, but the "Wikipedia:"
> part should still be omitted. Otherwise, on many pages that have lots of
> links with the namespace prefix omitted, you get lots and lots and lots of
> redundant information, and it becomes very hard to read. The same goes for
>
> [.[.The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (movie)|]]
>
> which should not become
>
> [.[.The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (movie)|The
> Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring]].
>
> The (movie) part should instead be omitted "on the fly". This also makes
> it easier to change the pipe trick behavior should that ever be necessary.
> I believe this behavior would be more intuitive. In fact, I expected it to
> work this way and was surprised when I noticed that it doesn't.
>
> A comparison would be the "slash trick" which I have developed for
> subpages.
>
> [[/foo/]]
>
> becomes a link called "foo" to the subpage /foo of the current page, but
> it is *not* converted into [[/foo|foo]] for this purpose.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Regards,
>
> Erik
> _______________________________________________
> Wikitech-l mailing list
> Wikitech-l@wikipedia.org
> http://www.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
>