I apologize when I insulted people here.
Nevertheless, I would prefer a more neutral,
term. The word 'hacker' might scare people
and it doesn't sound very 'inviting' to me.
Specification and clear documentation is
much more important than implementation!
I personally hate maintaining software, keep adding
features forever, updating, debugging, etc.
I love 'design'.
Well, sorry for bothering you all. Thanks for
correcting me and giving me stuff to read about
'hacking', Erik.
Don't know in which way I can contribute to
Wikipedia-software-development for I almost don't
know anything about databases and database-locking
(which seems to give rise to performance-problems).
Sorry for crying out nonsense here; thank you for always
responding; but most of all thanks for making Wikipedia
at all possible, in that regard you're really doing a
great job!
Pieter Suurmond
Erik Moeller wrote:
>
> > They should be given a proper place (don't remove!).
> > They should however be separated from 'development'.
>
> > Software-development and maintainance is a very
> > serious business, please don't call it 'hacking'
> > any longer because Wikipedia is reaching adulthood. :-)
> > (Grown-up software-developers don't call themselves
> > 'hackers': It's all about thinking and mathematics!)
>
> Insulting nonsense. There are plenty of "grown-up" software developers who
> call themselves hackers. Ask the people at
>
> http://zgp.org/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers
>
> or the folks working on the Linux kernel:
>
> http://www.kernelhacking.org/
>
> for example. I wouldn't say that these people are not capable of thinking
> or do not understand mathematics.
>
> Wikipedia is an open source project, and in the open source community, the
> term "hacker" has a much different tradition from other development
> groups. It is a perfectly appropriate term for the development process,
> unless you see open source itself as "unprofessional" and "not for grown-
> ups" (in which case you should don your asbestos suit..)
>
> Regards,
>
> Erik
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Nevertheless, I would prefer a more neutral,
term. The word 'hacker' might scare people
and it doesn't sound very 'inviting' to me.
Specification and clear documentation is
much more important than implementation!
I personally hate maintaining software, keep adding
features forever, updating, debugging, etc.
I love 'design'.
Well, sorry for bothering you all. Thanks for
correcting me and giving me stuff to read about
'hacking', Erik.
Don't know in which way I can contribute to
Wikipedia-software-development for I almost don't
know anything about databases and database-locking
(which seems to give rise to performance-problems).
Sorry for crying out nonsense here; thank you for always
responding; but most of all thanks for making Wikipedia
at all possible, in that regard you're really doing a
great job!
Pieter Suurmond
Erik Moeller wrote:
>
> > They should be given a proper place (don't remove!).
> > They should however be separated from 'development'.
>
> > Software-development and maintainance is a very
> > serious business, please don't call it 'hacking'
> > any longer because Wikipedia is reaching adulthood. :-)
> > (Grown-up software-developers don't call themselves
> > 'hackers': It's all about thinking and mathematics!)
>
> Insulting nonsense. There are plenty of "grown-up" software developers who
> call themselves hackers. Ask the people at
>
> http://zgp.org/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers
>
> or the folks working on the Linux kernel:
>
> http://www.kernelhacking.org/
>
> for example. I wouldn't say that these people are not capable of thinking
> or do not understand mathematics.
>
> Wikipedia is an open source project, and in the open source community, the
> term "hacker" has a much different tradition from other development
> groups. It is a perfectly appropriate term for the development process,
> unless you see open source itself as "unprofessional" and "not for grown-
> ups" (in which case you should don your asbestos suit..)
>
> Regards,
>
> Erik
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