Message: 3
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Alternative proposal for
interlanguage links
redesign and a few other issues
From: Erik Moeller <e.moeller@fokus.gmd.de>
To: wikitech-l@wikipedia.org
Organization: FOKUS
Date: 08 Jan 2003 14:55:32 +0100
Reply-To: wikitech-l@wikipedia.org
On Die, 2003-01-07 at 19:07, Tomasz Wegrzanowski
wrote:
> 1. move everything to Postgres
> 2. move everything to common database, with tables
foo_cur, foo_old
etc.,
> where foo are language names
> 3. make single user table (needs some tweaking to
allow slightly
different
> preferences), single logging system, single
recent changes, and
all other
> nice things we can do with that
> 4. move everything to UTF-8, so we don't have to use
%escapes in
English Wikipedia
I would appreciate very much that you explain to me
very clearly what will be the benefits of switching to
UTF 8. I have no idea, and it must be important if you
think of moving everything this way.
As I understood, meta is coded in UTF-8.
I'll be very clear why this is an important matter to
me : if you move everything to UTF-8, I will just quit
Wikipedia.
The only place I can write properly on the meta is
from work (W2k and IE). And my boss doesn't appreciate
that much.
At home, I can't write any special characters; and if
I edit a page with some (for exemple "accueil" our
home page), I mess everything. It is a matte of
importance in french language.
Opera doesn't support UTF. Netscape doesn't support
some of our characters either, and is all crazy with
the frames (tool bar unusable). And from time to time,
IE refuse to edit long windows (it doesnot cut them as
Opera does, it just displays the visible part of the
edit window, the scrollbar just disappears). And
Mozilla is not working well, and real slow. So the
easiest way to me is to write with no accents. And
never edit pages with special characters.
I can't find a really satisfying option. It is not a
huge problem on meta. But it definitly would make
working on wikipedia articles a real pain. So please,
explain what the real benefits are, and don't make the
switch just a minor issue.
At least on the french one.
It won't be so bad on the english one, for you don't
use special characters much, but likely many people
will have to correct things after me. So, maybe I'll
give up participating on the en.wiki.
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Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Alternative proposal for
interlanguage links
redesign and a few other issues
From: Erik Moeller <e.moeller@fokus.gmd.de>
To: wikitech-l@wikipedia.org
Organization: FOKUS
Date: 08 Jan 2003 14:55:32 +0100
Reply-To: wikitech-l@wikipedia.org
On Die, 2003-01-07 at 19:07, Tomasz Wegrzanowski
wrote:
> 1. move everything to Postgres
> 2. move everything to common database, with tables
foo_cur, foo_old
etc.,
> where foo are language names
> 3. make single user table (needs some tweaking to
allow slightly
different
> preferences), single logging system, single
recent changes, and
all other
> nice things we can do with that
> 4. move everything to UTF-8, so we don't have to use
%escapes in
English Wikipedia
I would appreciate very much that you explain to me
very clearly what will be the benefits of switching to
UTF 8. I have no idea, and it must be important if you
think of moving everything this way.
As I understood, meta is coded in UTF-8.
I'll be very clear why this is an important matter to
me : if you move everything to UTF-8, I will just quit
Wikipedia.
The only place I can write properly on the meta is
from work (W2k and IE). And my boss doesn't appreciate
that much.
At home, I can't write any special characters; and if
I edit a page with some (for exemple "accueil" our
home page), I mess everything. It is a matte of
importance in french language.
Opera doesn't support UTF. Netscape doesn't support
some of our characters either, and is all crazy with
the frames (tool bar unusable). And from time to time,
IE refuse to edit long windows (it doesnot cut them as
Opera does, it just displays the visible part of the
edit window, the scrollbar just disappears). And
Mozilla is not working well, and real slow. So the
easiest way to me is to write with no accents. And
never edit pages with special characters.
I can't find a really satisfying option. It is not a
huge problem on meta. But it definitly would make
working on wikipedia articles a real pain. So please,
explain what the real benefits are, and don't make the
switch just a minor issue.
At least on the french one.
It won't be so bad on the english one, for you don't
use special characters much, but likely many people
will have to correct things after me. So, maybe I'll
give up participating on the en.wiki.
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