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Behavior on deleting images
It strikes me as violating the principle of least astonishment that
"Delete this page" and the little "(del)" link next to the current image
revision do different things on an image description page, namely:

* "Delete this page" deletes only the image description page, leaving
the image file and its revisions intact, and the image remains in the
images list

* "(del)" deletes the image file, any old revisions, the entry from the
images list, *and* the description page.

User expectation seems to be that "delete this page" should perform the
second function.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Re: Behavior on deleting images [ In reply to ]
Brion VIBBER wrote:
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> * "(del)" deletes the image file, any old revisions, the entry from the
> images list, *and* the description page.
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That is not so, at least not on Wikipedia NL.
If you detetes a image/file by use of the (del)-link that file is gone
but the description page and the talk page still exist (if the where
actieve of cource)


If you wants to delete clean a image/file you have to do this;

1)go to the description page
2)If actieve, open the talk page in a new window and delete it
2)On the discription page; clik on (del) while opening it in a new window.
3)delete the image/file
4)go back to the window whit the discription page and delete it. (if you
hit reload you see that the file is gone but the discription is still there)

Now the are all gone whitout orphans.

Giskart
Re: Behavior on deleting images [ In reply to ]
Giskart wrote:
> Brion VIBBER wrote:
> [cut]
> > * "(del)" deletes the image file, any old revisions, the entry from the
> > images list, *and* the description page.
> [cut]
>
> That is not so, at least not on Wikipedia NL.
> If you detetes a image/file by use of the (del)-link that file is gone
> but the description page and the talk page still exist (if the where
> actieve of cource)

Talk pages are always retained separately. I think that's the correct
behavior, as the talk may describe why a deletion was made (and in some
cases should be still available if the page/image is recreated).

However, it's certainly a bug that the description page isn't deleted;
it was hard-wired to the English word "Image" (gaarg!), so didn't work
on other languages. That I've fixed.

I'll hold off on making page delete == image delete until someone gives
me feedback or I get bored.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Re: Behavior on deleting images [ In reply to ]
[.Note: The message that I'm replying to didn't appear on <wikipedia-l>.]

Brion Vibber wrote:

>It strikes me as violating the principle of least astonishment that
>"Delete this page" and the little "(del)" link next to the current image
>revision do different things on an image description page, namely:

>* "Delete this page" deletes only the image description page, leaving
>the image file and its revisions intact, and the image remains in the
>images list

>* "(del)" deletes the image file, any old revisions, the entry from the
>images list, *and* the description page.

>User expectation seems to be that "delete this page" should perform the
>second function.

I agree with Brion.

But I think that the change should appear on the main list too,
since presumably some people have acclimated themselves to the old way.
Hence I am crossposting this reply.


-- Toby