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Yes and no, there are many options in Poland like Prague. I don't know how
far it is from Katowice but it's still in Poland. In Prague you can see the
famous Charles bridge and if you are interested in past German history,
there is a place when Heydrich was assassinated. And also the church when
they hid until their last. Others may add.

handoko -

On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, 04:56 Harry Mitchell <hjmwiki@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't
> want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought
> had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during
> Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
>
> I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but
> I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
>
> Best,
> Harry
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Hi,

For both logistical and cost reasons, the Core Organizing Team has decided
to focus on side events inside the city of Katowice. We do not plan to
organize any activities outside of the city. However, attendees are always
free to self-organize tours and excursions based on their interests.

We expect to coordinate and announce our side events in the months leading
up to Wikimania, so keep your eye out for that on the Wikimania-wiki!

Best,

*Maciej on behalf of the Wikimania 2024 COT*

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Wikimedia Europe Board Member

Wikipedia Administrator

User:Nadzik <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik>

pt., 8 gru 2023 o 22:56 Harry Mitchell <hjmwiki@gmail.com> napisa?(a):

> Hi all,
>
> I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't
> want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought
> had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during
> Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
>
> I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but
> I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
>
> Best,
> Harry
> _______________________________________________
> Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
>


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Hi Harry

I know the COT's are always looking at options and excursions around
Wikimania but this is one place where it would be better to make your
own arrangements as you said it has a terrible history. This is one
place that's best left to the individual, I'm not even sure I would
want to share experiencing that place with other people I dont know.
On a personal level. I'd hate to have to deal with a person who took
the tour not knowing the horrors of the place and having to address
that as a T&S person. As all these organised side events also need
critical numbers and some one two organisor best to focus on local
with minimal issues from attending

On Sat, 9 Dec 2023 at 05:56, Harry Mitchell <hjmwiki@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
>
> I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
>
> Best,
> Harry
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Minor point but last I checked Prague was not in Poland! I

On Thu, 14 Dec 2023, 12:40 Handoko Suwono, <handokos27@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes and no, there are many options in Poland like Prague. I don't know how
> far it is from Katowice but it's still in Poland. In Prague you can see the
> famous Charles bridge and if you are interested in past German history,
> there is a place when Heydrich was assassinated. And also the church when
> they hid until their last. Others may add.
>
> handoko -
>
> On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, 04:56 Harry Mitchell <hjmwiki@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't
>> want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought
>> had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during
>> Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
>>
>> I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but
>> I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
>>
>> Best,
>> Harry
>> _______________________________________________
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That's absolutely fair enough. Thank you for your answer. I wasn't looking
for one answer or another; it's something I wanted to do and didn't want to
pre-empt anything if plans were being made.

If anyone is interested in going with a group of Wikimedians, please feel
free to get in touch with me. If there are a few of us we could coordinate
plans.

Harry

On Thu, 14 Dec 2023, 13:13 Wikipedysta Nadzik, <
pl.wikipedia.nadzik@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> For both logistical and cost reasons, the Core Organizing Team has decided
> to focus on side events inside the city of Katowice. We do not plan to
> organize any activities outside of the city. However, attendees are always
> free to self-organize tours and excursions based on their interests.
>
> We expect to coordinate and announce our side events in the months leading
> up to Wikimania, so keep your eye out for that on the Wikimania-wiki!
>
> Best,
>
> *Maciej on behalf of the Wikimania 2024 COT*
>
> --
>
>
> Maciej Artur Nadzikiewicz (He/him)
>
> Wikimania 2024 Poland – Team Lead
>
> Wikimedia Europe Board Member
>
> Wikipedia Administrator
>
> User:Nadzik <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik>
>
> pt., 8 gru 2023 o 22:56 Harry Mitchell <hjmwiki@gmail.com> napisa?(a):
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't
>> want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought
>> had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during
>> Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
>>
>> I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but
>> I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
>>
>> Best,
>> Harry
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
>>
>
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My husband and I are planning on visiting Krakow at some point, although this will likely be after the conference.

Cary

From: Harry Mitchell <hjmwiki@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 11:21 AM
To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) <wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: [Wikimania-l] Re: Excursion to Auschwitz?

That's absolutely fair enough. Thank you for your answer. I wasn't looking for one answer or another; it's something I wanted to do and didn't want to pre-empt anything if plans were being made.

If anyone is interested in going with a group of Wikimedians, please feel free to get in touch with me. If there are a few of us we could coordinate plans.

Harry

On Thu, 14 Dec 2023, 13:13 Wikipedysta Nadzik, <pl.wikipedia.nadzik@gmail.com<mailto:pl.wikipedia.nadzik@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,

For both logistical and cost reasons, the Core Organizing Team has decided to focus on side events inside the city of Katowice. We do not plan to organize any activities outside of the city. However, attendees are always free to self-organize tours and excursions based on their interests.

We expect to coordinate and announce our side events in the months leading up to Wikimania, so keep your eye out for that on the Wikimania-wiki!

Best,

Maciej on behalf of the Wikimania 2024 COT

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Wikimania 2024 Poland – Team Lead

Wikimedia Europe Board Member

Wikipedia Administrator

User:Nadzik<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik>

pt., 8 gru 2023 o 22:56 Harry Mitchell <hjmwiki@gmail.com<mailto:hjmwiki@gmail.com>> napisa?(a):
Hi all,

I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?

I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.

Best,
Harry
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Yes, Prague is not. It's Czech Republic and only shares border with Poland.
Thanks for correcting. For me it's a good way to check it again through
Wikipedia.

"With the collapse of the Austro-Hungarian Empire after World War I, the
state of Czechoslovakia was created in 1918, choosing Prague as the capital
city. In March 1939, Prague was invaded by the Nazi troops and was made a
German protectorate.

1993 Czechoslovakia was split into the Czech Republic and Slovakia, and
Poland-Czechoslovakia relations were replaced by Poland–Czech Republic
relations and Poland–Slovakia relations."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki
Czechoslovakia–Poland relations - Wikipedia

- handoko

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023, 02:18 Harry Mitchell <hjmwiki@gmail.com> wrote:

> Minor point but last I checked Prague was not in Poland! I
>
> On Thu, 14 Dec 2023, 12:40 Handoko Suwono, <handokos27@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes and no, there are many options in Poland like Prague. I don't know
>> how far it is from Katowice but it's still in Poland. In Prague you can see
>> the famous Charles bridge and if you are interested in past German history,
>> there is a place when Heydrich was assassinated. And also the church when
>> they hid until their last. Others may add.
>>
>> handoko -
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, 04:56 Harry Mitchell <hjmwiki@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't
>>> want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought
>>> had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during
>>> Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
>>>
>>> I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but
>>> I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Harry
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
>>>
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Hi,

Thank you for the informations.

Best,

Envoyé depuis mon téléphone

-------- Message original --------
De : Wikipedysta Nadzik <pl.wikipedia.nadzik@gmail.com>
Date : jeu. 14 déc. 2023 16:10
À : "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" <wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Objet : [Wikimania-l] Re: Excursion to Auschwitz?

Hi,

For both logistical and cost reasons, the Core Organizing Team has decided to focus on side events inside the city of Katowice. We do not plan to organize any activities outside of the city. However, attendees are always free to self-organize tours and excursions based on their interests.

We expect to coordinate and announce our side events in the months leading up to Wikimania, so keep your eye out for that on the Wikimania-wiki!

Best,

Maciej on behalf of the Wikimania 2024 COT

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Wikimania 2024 Poland – Team Lead


Wikimedia Europe Board Member

Wikipedia Administrator

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik"]User:Nadzik
pt., 8 gru 2023 o 22:56 Harry Mitchell <hjmwiki&#64;gmail.com> napisa?(a):

Hi all, 
I&#39;m sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don&#39;t want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but I&#39;m sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
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Hi to everyone from Slovenia !

Excuse me, but mistaken Prague to be in Poland is a bit of nonsense....Is
not just one of the most beautiful cities in the World, is capital of the
well-known country.

Sašo Noži? Serini, BS.C
ISOC.SI
WIKI.SI
DIGIT-AGRO

V pet., 15. dec. 2023, 05:34 je oseba ella Marie <
vololonirinamarieella@gmail.com> napisala:

> Hi,
>
> Thank you for the informations.
>
> Best,
>
> Envoyé depuis mon téléphone
>
>
> -------- Message original --------
> De : Wikipedysta Nadzik <pl.wikipedia.nadzik@gmail.com>
> Date : jeu. 14 déc. 2023 16:10
> À : "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" <
> wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
> Objet : [Wikimania-l] Re: Excursion to Auschwitz?
>
> Hi,
>
> For both logistical and cost reasons, the Core Organizing Team has decided
> to focus on side events inside the city of Katowice. We do not plan to
> organize any activities outside of the city. However, attendees are always
> free to self-organize tours and excursions based on their interests.
>
> We expect to coordinate and announce our side events in the months leading
> up to Wikimania, so keep your eye out for that on the Wikimania-wiki!
>
> Best,
>
> *Maciej on behalf of the Wikimania 2024 COT*
>
> --
>
>
> Maciej Artur Nadzikiewicz (He/him)
>
> Wikimania 2024 Poland – Team Lead
>
> Wikimedia Europe Board Member
>
> Wikipedia Administrator
>
> User:Nadzik <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik>
>
> pt., 8 gru 2023 o 22:56 Harry Mitchell <hjmwiki@gmail.com> napisa?(a):
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't
> want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought
> had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during
> Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
>
> I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but
> I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
>
> Best,
> Harry
> _______________________________________________
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>
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Hi Sašo,

Ah yes, sorry for it. You should be proud of, too bad the Wikimania isn't
happening in Prague but elsewhere. I would always think of Prague and
considering to visit whenever possible. It's indeed a beautiful city by any
chance.

Thanks anyway.

handoko -


On Fri, Dec 15, 2023, 15:49 UNYSAS <unysas@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi to everyone from Slovenia !
>
> Excuse me, but mistaken Prague to be in Poland is a bit of nonsense....Is
> not just one of the most beautiful cities in the World, is capital of the
> well-known country.
>
> Sašo Noži? Serini, BS.C
> ISOC.SI
> WIKI.SI
> DIGIT-AGRO
>
> V pet., 15. dec. 2023, 05:34 je oseba ella Marie <
> vololonirinamarieella@gmail.com> napisala:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thank you for the informations.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Envoyé depuis mon téléphone
>>
>>
>> -------- Message original --------
>> De : Wikipedysta Nadzik <pl.wikipedia.nadzik@gmail.com>
>> Date : jeu. 14 déc. 2023 16:10
>> À : "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" <
>> wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>> Objet : [Wikimania-l] Re: Excursion to Auschwitz?
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> For both logistical and cost reasons, the Core Organizing Team has
>> decided to focus on side events inside the city of Katowice. We do not plan
>> to organize any activities outside of the city. However, attendees are
>> always free to self-organize tours and excursions based on their interests.
>>
>> We expect to coordinate and announce our side events in the months
>> leading up to Wikimania, so keep your eye out for that on the
>> Wikimania-wiki!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> *Maciej on behalf of the Wikimania 2024 COT*
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Maciej Artur Nadzikiewicz (He/him)
>>
>> Wikimania 2024 Poland – Team Lead
>>
>> Wikimedia Europe Board Member
>>
>> Wikipedia Administrator
>>
>> User:Nadzik <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik>
>>
>> pt., 8 gru 2023 o 22:56 Harry Mitchell <hjmwiki@gmail.com> napisa?(a):
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't
>> want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought
>> had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during
>> Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
>>
>> I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but
>> I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
>>
>> Best,
>> Harry
>> _______________________________________________
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Il 14/12/23 21:21, Harry Mitchell ha scritto:
> If anyone is interested in going with a group of Wikimedians, please feel
> free to get in touch with me. If there are a few of us we could coordinate
> plans.

Thanks for checking! I'm interested in joining, especially if it's on
August 6 or 11 (to minimise chances of conflicts with other last-minute
side events). The page
<https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2024:Related_events> doesn't exist
yet, it would be good to create it as soon as some tentative date is chosen.

Federico
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Hello,

For these planning to go — it can be an emotional experience, plan a whole
day for it. It takes a while to visit (there are 2 locations) and you might
have a depressing feeling for the rest of the day until you regain faith in
humanity. This is why others recommend it as an individual experience.

M?rti?š


pirmd., 2023. g. 18. dec., plkst. 10:55 — lietot?js Federico Leva (Nemo) (<
nemowiki@gmail.com>) rakst?ja:

> Il 14/12/23 21:21, Harry Mitchell ha scritto:
> > If anyone is interested in going with a group of Wikimedians, please feel
> > free to get in touch with me. If there are a few of us we could
> coordinate
> > plans.
>
> Thanks for checking! I'm interested in joining, especially if it's on
> August 6 or 11 (to minimise chances of conflicts with other last-minute
> side events). The page
> <https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2024:Related_events> doesn't exist
> yet, it would be good to create it as soon as some tentative date is
> chosen.
>
> Federico
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The best is to create collateral pages for people looking for excursions and to create small groups.

I spend quite a lot of time in Poland, but I visit the country thanks to a Polish friend, without him I would get lost quickly.

Krakow is quite touristic and in the town is sufficient to speak English, Katowice is a big commercial town and English is quite common but out of the big towns the use of English is not so widespread.

I went to the salt mine of Wieliczka by public transportation (I recommend too) but it was overcrowded (in October) and thanks to him I avoided a lot of queues and problems with the tickets.

Consider that these touristic points can be really overcrowded in August.

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From: M?rti?š Bru?enieks <martinsb@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2023 10:09 AM
To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) <wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Cc: Harry Mitchell <hjmwiki@gmail.com>
Subject: [Wikimania-l] Re: Excursion to Auschwitz?

Hello,

For these planning to go — it can be an emotional experience, plan a whole day for it. It takes a while to visit (there are 2 locations) and you might have a depressing feeling for the rest of the day until you regain faith in humanity. This is why others recommend it as an individual experience.

M?rti?š


pirmd., 2023. g. 18. dec., plkst. 10:55 — lietot?js Federico Leva (Nemo) (<nemowiki@gmail.com<mailto:nemowiki@gmail.com>>) rakst?ja:
Il 14/12/23 21:21, Harry Mitchell ha scritto:
> If anyone is interested in going with a group of Wikimedians, please feel
> free to get in touch with me. If there are a few of us we could coordinate
> plans.

Thanks for checking! I'm interested in joining, especially if it's on
August 6 or 11 (to minimise chances of conflicts with other last-minute
side events). The page
<https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2024:Related_events> doesn't exist
yet, it would be good to create it as soon as some tentative date is chosen.

Federico
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And others still feel depressed each time they are reminded of their visit to that very place where their family members were doomed to die. And might get confused by this thread as they connect “excursion” more with a sightseeing trip than a way through hell what it had been back in these days but would likely be also for today's visitors. Can we please very sensitive with this topic? Thank you!
Best,DerHexer
Am Montag, 18. Dezember 2023, 10:09:59 MEZ hat M?rti?š Bru?enieks <martinsb@gmail.com> Folgendes geschrieben:

Hello,
For these planning to go — it can be an emotional experience, plan a whole day for it. It takes a while to visit (there are 2 locations) and you might have a depressing feeling for the rest of the day until you regain faith in humanity. This is why others recommend it as an individual experience.

 M?rti?š

pirmd., 2023. g. 18. dec., plkst. 10:55 — lietot?js Federico Leva (Nemo) (<nemowiki@gmail.com>) rakst?ja:

Il 14/12/23 21:21, Harry Mitchell ha scritto:
> If anyone is interested in going with a group of Wikimedians, please feel
> free to get in touch with me. If there are a few of us we could coordinate
> plans.

Thanks for checking! I'm interested in joining, especially if it's on
August 6 or 11 (to minimise chances of conflicts with other last-minute
side events). The page
<https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2024:Related_events> doesn't exist
yet, it would be good to create it as soon as some tentative date is chosen.

Federico
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Well, actually the CEO of Auschwitz Museum is our fellow Wikipedian, who
edit Wikipedia since 2004 and he suggested to organize something Wikipedia
related on numerous occasions. Museum has a very well equiped Education
Center:

https://www.auschwitz.org/en/education/

with multiple activities devoted to specific groups of people - so I guess
arranging something Wikipedia specific - outside the official Wikimania
program - before or after Wikimania - could be quite possible - and I guess
there might be quite a number of people interested.


czw., 14 gru 2023 o 14:17 Gnangarra <gnangarra@gmail.com> napisa?(a):

> Hi Harry
>
> I know the COT's are always looking at options and excursions around
> Wikimania but this is one place where it would be better to make your
> own arrangements as you said it has a terrible history. This is one
> place that's best left to the individual, I'm not even sure I would
> want to share experiencing that place with other people I dont know.
> On a personal level. I'd hate to have to deal with a person who took
> the tour not knowing the horrors of the place and having to address
> that as a T&S person. As all these organised side events also need
> critical numbers and some one two organisor best to focus on local
> with minimal issues from attending
>
> On Sat, 9 Dec 2023 at 05:56, Harry Mitchell <hjmwiki@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't
> want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought
> had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during
> Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
> >
> > I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but
> I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
> >
> > Best,
> > Harry
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On Sat, 9 Dec 2023, 8:56 am Harry Mitchell, <hjmwiki@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't
> want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought
> had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during
> Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
>
> I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but
> I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
>
> Best,
> Harry
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Hi, Handoko !

Thx for answer. To made a mistakes is a human, so Its forgiven...

Be well,

See you around WikiWorld:)

Sašo







V pet., 15. dec. 2023, 10:49 je oseba Handoko Suwono <handokos27@gmail.com>
napisala:

> Hi Sašo,
>
> Ah yes, sorry for it. You should be proud of, too bad the Wikimania isn't
> happening in Prague but elsewhere. I would always think of Prague and
> considering to visit whenever possible. It's indeed a beautiful city by any
> chance.
>
> Thanks anyway.
>
> handoko -
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2023, 15:49 UNYSAS <unysas@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi to everyone from Slovenia !
>>
>> Excuse me, but mistaken Prague to be in Poland is a bit of nonsense....Is
>> not just one of the most beautiful cities in the World, is capital of the
>> well-known country.
>>
>> Sašo Noži? Serini, BS.C
>> ISOC.SI
>> WIKI.SI
>> DIGIT-AGRO
>>
>> V pet., 15. dec. 2023, 05:34 je oseba ella Marie <
>> vololonirinamarieella@gmail.com> napisala:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thank you for the informations.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Envoyé depuis mon téléphone
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Message original --------
>>> De : Wikipedysta Nadzik <pl.wikipedia.nadzik@gmail.com>
>>> Date : jeu. 14 déc. 2023 16:10
>>> À : "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" <
>>> wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>>> Objet : [Wikimania-l] Re: Excursion to Auschwitz?
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> For both logistical and cost reasons, the Core Organizing Team has
>>> decided to focus on side events inside the city of Katowice. We do not plan
>>> to organize any activities outside of the city. However, attendees are
>>> always free to self-organize tours and excursions based on their interests.
>>>
>>> We expect to coordinate and announce our side events in the months
>>> leading up to Wikimania, so keep your eye out for that on the
>>> Wikimania-wiki!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> *Maciej on behalf of the Wikimania 2024 COT*
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Maciej Artur Nadzikiewicz (He/him)
>>>
>>> Wikimania 2024 Poland – Team Lead
>>>
>>> Wikimedia Europe Board Member
>>>
>>> Wikipedia Administrator
>>>
>>> User:Nadzik <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik>
>>>
>>> pt., 8 gru 2023 o 22:56 Harry Mitchell <hjmwiki@gmail.com> napisa?(a):
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't
>>> want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought
>>> had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during
>>> Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
>>>
>>> I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but
>>> I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Harry
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>>>
>>>
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