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I really look forward to being able to meet with people in person in the
future. I am concerned, however, that requiring "full vaccination" may
unintentionally restrict attendance. Huge parts of the world still do not
have vaccine availability, and so many people aren't even able to get a
first dose, let alone a complete series. As well, there is a big variance
between countries on what vaccines they consider "acceptable" in order to
enter that country; people who are considered fully vaccinated in their
home country may not be considered vaccinated at all by the receiving
country. In other cases, some countries require two vaccination doses,
while others are quickly moving to require three. Many countries also
have requirements for rapid covid tests within a certain number of hours
before arrival; those tests aren't free (and in some countries aren't even
available), and that will have an effect on the ability to travel. Some
countries restrict visitors from other countries entirely. In just the
last 24 hours, my country's government has issued a travel advisory
strongly discouraging all international travel for at least the next month
with the exception of emergencies, and has considerably increased
restrictions on admission to our country.

We're still in the middle of a pandemic, and the ability to (a) predict
what the situation will be many months down the line and (b) ensure that we
are able to provide equitable opportunities for our entire global community
to participate are big question marks right now. Much as I want to see
more of my colleagues in person as soon as it's safe to do so, I don't
think we're anywhere near that point yet. I think planning for the next
Wikimania to be virtual is the only sensible thing to do right now, since
the planning needs to be done *now*.

Risker/Anne



On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 at 20:47, Betty Wills <atsmethatsme@gmail.com> wrote:

> It’s time to bring the live event back and restrict it to fully vaccinated
> attendees only. Others can attend virtually. Perhaps we should have a
> poll??
>
> Happy Holidays!
>
> Betty Wills (Atsme on Wikipedia)
> atsmethatsme@gmail.com
>
>
>
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> > Dear all,
> >
> > The Wikimania Foundation events team, the Wikimania steering committee,
> and
> > members of the 2021 Wikimania organizing team would like to invite you to
> > help organize Wikimania 2022! Wikimania 2022 will again primarily be a
> > virtual event, with distributed in-person events if local and global
> > circumstances allow.
> >
> > We need volunteers to be a part of the core organizing team as well as
> for
> > other roles. You can find more information here:
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2022/Volunteer
> >
> > The core team will help determine the structure and timeline of the
> event,
> > lead programming, scholarship, communication and other teams for the
> event,
> > and help ensure our global conference is a success.
> >
> > For the process to volunteer, see:
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2022/Volunteer#How_to_volunteer
> >
> > There's a set of questions on the meta page linked above; you can email
> > your answers to the events team or post on meta by January 9th, 2022.
> > Events staff and Wikimania steering committee members will review
> > applications, meet with shortlisted candidates the following week, and
> > announce the core organizing team by January 21st. Please post any
> > questions on the talk page. We look forward to building an amazing
> > conference team!
> >
> > best,
> > Phoebe Ayers
> > vice-chair Wikimania Steering Committee
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Another issue would be just the cost of flights given airlines have
struggled for two years, I doubt there will great swaths of the cheap
airfares that make it possible for attendees to get event. There will
opportunities for people to organise smaller events on the side some of the
African countries did in 2021. Small steps

On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 at 10:08, Risker <risker.wp@gmail.com> wrote:

> I really look forward to being able to meet with people in person in the
> future. I am concerned, however, that requiring "full vaccination" may
> unintentionally restrict attendance. Huge parts of the world still do not
> have vaccine availability, and so many people aren't even able to get a
> first dose, let alone a complete series. As well, there is a big variance
> between countries on what vaccines they consider "acceptable" in order to
> enter that country; people who are considered fully vaccinated in their
> home country may not be considered vaccinated at all by the receiving
> country. In other cases, some countries require two vaccination doses,
> while others are quickly moving to require three. Many countries also
> have requirements for rapid covid tests within a certain number of hours
> before arrival; those tests aren't free (and in some countries aren't even
> available), and that will have an effect on the ability to travel. Some
> countries restrict visitors from other countries entirely. In just the
> last 24 hours, my country's government has issued a travel advisory
> strongly discouraging all international travel for at least the next month
> with the exception of emergencies, and has considerably increased
> restrictions on admission to our country.
>
> We're still in the middle of a pandemic, and the ability to (a) predict
> what the situation will be many months down the line and (b) ensure that we
> are able to provide equitable opportunities for our entire global community
> to participate are big question marks right now. Much as I want to see
> more of my colleagues in person as soon as it's safe to do so, I don't
> think we're anywhere near that point yet. I think planning for the next
> Wikimania to be virtual is the only sensible thing to do right now, since
> the planning needs to be done *now*.
>
> Risker/Anne
>
>
>
> On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 at 20:47, Betty Wills <atsmethatsme@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It’s time to bring the live event back and restrict it to fully
>> vaccinated attendees only. Others can attend virtually. Perhaps we should
>> have a poll??
>>
>> Happy Holidays!
>>
>> Betty Wills (Atsme on Wikipedia)
>> atsmethatsme@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Dec 15, 2021, at 6:01 AM, wikimania-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Send Wikimania-l mailing list submissions to
>> > wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
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>> > You can reach the person managing the list at
>> > wikimania-l-owner@lists.wikimedia.org
>> >
>> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> > than "Re: Contents of Wikimania-l digest..."
>> >
>> > Today's Topics:
>> >
>> > 1. volunteers needed for Wikimania 2022! (phoebe ayers)
>> >
>> >
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 14:15:25 -0500
>> > From: phoebe ayers <phoebe.wiki@gmail.com>
>> > Subject: [Wikimania-l] volunteers needed for Wikimania 2022!
>> > To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)"
>> > <wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
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>> >
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > The Wikimania Foundation events team, the Wikimania steering committee,
>> and
>> > members of the 2021 Wikimania organizing team would like to invite you
>> to
>> > help organize Wikimania 2022! Wikimania 2022 will again primarily be a
>> > virtual event, with distributed in-person events if local and global
>> > circumstances allow.
>> >
>> > We need volunteers to be a part of the core organizing team as well as
>> for
>> > other roles. You can find more information here:
>> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2022/Volunteer
>> >
>> > The core team will help determine the structure and timeline of the
>> event,
>> > lead programming, scholarship, communication and other teams for the
>> event,
>> > and help ensure our global conference is a success.
>> >
>> > For the process to volunteer, see:
>> >
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2022/Volunteer#How_to_volunteer
>> >
>> > There's a set of questions on the meta page linked above; you can email
>> > your answers to the events team or post on meta by January 9th, 2022.
>> > Events staff and Wikimania steering committee members will review
>> > applications, meet with shortlisted candidates the following week, and
>> > announce the core organizing team by January 21st. Please post any
>> > questions on the talk page. We look forward to building an amazing
>> > conference team!
>> >
>> > best,
>> > Phoebe Ayers
>> > vice-chair Wikimania Steering Committee
>> >
>> > --
>> > * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers
>> <at>
>> > gmail.com *
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>> Betty Wills (Atsme on Wikipedia)
>> atsmethatsme@gmail.com
>>
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