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Ben Yates wrote:

> I redid a couple of the posters from last year (they were made too
> late to be used for publicity, but I think it's early enough this
> year).
>
> http://benyates.info/WMPosters/

Thanks, but please follow the visual guidelines and do not change the
color and shape of Wikimania logo. So

http://benyates.info/WMPosters/Wikimania%20poster%202.pdf
http://benyates.info/WMPosters/Wikimania%20poster.pdf

are not appropiate but

http://benyates.info/WMPosters/Wikimania%20poster%20plain.pdf

is ok. You can add some colors, borders etc but not the the name
"Wikimania" and not to the logo.

http://benyates.info/WMPosters/Flower.pdf
http://benyates.info/WMPosters/Flower2.pdf

are nice and almost fits to the visual guidelines but the so maybe this
could be use. But the text is wrong.: Wikimania is *not* about "wikis",
or a Wiki conference but about Wikimedia projects and free knowledge!
You wrote:

> "WIKIMANIA is an annual scientific
> conference and a community event."

Wikimania is not a scientific conference. It is a community event, which
is also open to the public and to scientists.

"WIKIMANIA will explore the forms
and ramifications of wikis?their
process, their impact, and their
future?and will draw speakers
and participants from across
the globe."

Please have a look at the CfP
http://wikimania2007.wikimedia.org/wiki/Call_for_Participation

There we wrote:

Wikimania is an annual global event devoted to Wikipedia and the other
Wikimedia Foundation projects. Wikimania is a place for editors and
users of the Wikimedia projects around the globe (Wikipedia, Wikibooks,
Wikisource, Wikinews, Wiktionary, and Wikiversity) to gather, to meet
each other, to exchange ideas, and to report on research and projects.

We try to avoid submissions about wikis in general and will reject them
if no relevance to Wikimedia projects, communities and free content is
given. Please don't let people think that Wikimania is a wiki
conference. Wikis are only the tools - the main goal is free knowledge.

Greetings,
Jakob

On 3/1/07, Jakob Voss <jakob.voss at nichtich.de> wrote:
> Ben Yates wrote:
>
> > I redid a couple of the posters from last year (they were made too
> > late to be used for publicity, but I think it's early enough this
> > year).
> >
> > http://benyates.info/WMPosters/
>
> Thanks, but please follow the visual guidelines and do not change the
> color and shape of Wikimania logo. So
>
> http://benyates.info/WMPosters/Wikimania%20poster%202.pdf
> http://benyates.info/WMPosters/Wikimania%20poster.pdf
>
> are not appropiate but
>
> http://benyates.info/WMPosters/Wikimania%20poster%20plain.pdf
>
> is ok. You can add some colors, borders etc but not the the name
> "Wikimania" and not to the logo.

Heh. You know Ben designed the logo in the first place, right? So I
suppose he can redesign it if he chooses... those posters are based on
some of the possible mockups from last year. The text is partly based
on last year's CfP and other materials; it should be reworked for this
year's conference to reflect this year's different CfP.

If the conference is really only going with the original logo with one
set of colors, that should be made clear for all the designers. I
didn't think there had really been any consensus over whether that
logo should be the "official" logo for Wikimania (now and in the
future), or whether there can be variations in color, etc. My only
opinion is that I like Ben's posters!

cheers,
phoebe

Heh, thanks. Those files are all editable in Illustrator, if anyone
wants to have a go.

Here's my first shot at revising the text:

"Wikimania is an annual community event open to scientists and the public.

Wikimania is hosted by Wikimedia, the organization behind Wikipedia,
Wikimedia Commons, and other free projects.

Wikimania will explore the form and future of free knowledge, free
content, and free culture."

If nobody sees problems, I'll update the posters. (Otherwise, other
people should hash out the specifics since I don't know that much
about this year's Wikimania.)

Cheers

On 3/1/07, phoebe ayers <brassratgirl at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/1/07, Jakob Voss <jakob.voss at nichtich.de> wrote:
> > Ben Yates wrote:
> >
> > > I redid a couple of the posters from last year (they were made too
> > > late to be used for publicity, but I think it's early enough this
> > > year).
> > >
> > > http://benyates.info/WMPosters/
> >
> > Thanks, but please follow the visual guidelines and do not change the
> > color and shape of Wikimania logo. So
> >
> > http://benyates.info/WMPosters/Wikimania%20poster%202.pdf
> > http://benyates.info/WMPosters/Wikimania%20poster.pdf
> >
> > are not appropiate but
> >
> > http://benyates.info/WMPosters/Wikimania%20poster%20plain.pdf
> >
> > is ok. You can add some colors, borders etc but not the the name
> > "Wikimania" and not to the logo.
>
> Heh. You know Ben designed the logo in the first place, right? So I
> suppose he can redesign it if he chooses... those posters are based on
> some of the possible mockups from last year. The text is partly based
> on last year's CfP and other materials; it should be reworked for this
> year's conference to reflect this year's different CfP.
>
> If the conference is really only going with the original logo with one
> set of colors, that should be made clear for all the designers. I
> didn't think there had really been any consensus over whether that
> logo should be the "official" logo for Wikimania (now and in the
> future), or whether there can be variations in color, etc. My only
> opinion is that I like Ben's posters!
>
> cheers,
> phoebe
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wikimania-l mailing list
> Wikimania-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
>


--
Ben Yates
Wikipedia blog - http://wikip.blogspot.com

I like the posters as well, though the text should reflect the new CfP.

Please DO change color and shape of the Wikimania logo -- strict visual
guidelines haven't been laid out for such logos, and I think this is a
wonderful thing. The logo I know and love best online is Google's, which
has been modified, skewed playfully and absurdly, and remastered in
thousands of interesting, unusual, and unexpected ways.

Every time I see someone respond to an artist's ideas with "thanks, but
please stop taking artistic license with project logos," I cringe... why
should a free content community project, of all things, be scared of this
sort of creative reuse?

SJ

--
+1 617 529.4266 skype: metasj en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sj


On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, phoebe ayers wrote:

> On 3/1/07, Jakob Voss <jakob.voss at nichtich.de> wrote:
>> Ben Yates wrote:
>>
>>> I redid a couple of the posters from last year (they were made too
>>> late to be used for publicity, but I think it's early enough this
>>> year).
>>>
>>> http://benyates.info/WMPosters/
>>
>> Thanks, but please follow the visual guidelines and do not change the
>> color and shape of Wikimania logo. So
>>
>> http://benyates.info/WMPosters/Wikimania%20poster%202.pdf
>> http://benyates.info/WMPosters/Wikimania%20poster.pdf
>>
>> are not appropiate but
>>
>> http://benyates.info/WMPosters/Wikimania%20poster%20plain.pdf
>>
>> is ok. You can add some colors, borders etc but not the the name
>> "Wikimania" and not to the logo.
>
> Heh. You know Ben designed the logo in the first place, right? So I
> suppose he can redesign it if he chooses... those posters are based on
> some of the possible mockups from last year. The text is partly based
> on last year's CfP and other materials; it should be reworked for this
> year's conference to reflect this year's different CfP.
>
> If the conference is really only going with the original logo with one
> set of colors, that should be made clear for all the designers. I
> didn't think there had really been any consensus over whether that
> logo should be the "official" logo for Wikimania (now and in the
> future), or whether there can be variations in color, etc. My only
> opinion is that I like Ben's posters!
>
> cheers,
> phoebe
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wikimania-l mailing list
> Wikimania-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
>

Alright, I've updated the poster text.

On 3/1/07, Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I like the posters as well, though the text should reflect the new CfP.
>
> Please DO change color and shape of the Wikimania logo -- strict visual
> guidelines haven't been laid out for such logos, and I think this is a
> wonderful thing. The logo I know and love best online is Google's, which
> has been modified, skewed playfully and absurdly, and remastered in
> thousands of interesting, unusual, and unexpected ways.
>
> Every time I see someone respond to an artist's ideas with "thanks, but
> please stop taking artistic license with project logos," I cringe... why
> should a free content community project, of all things, be scared of this
> sort of creative reuse?
>
> SJ
>
> --
> +1 617 529.4266 skype: metasj en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sj
>
>
> On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, phoebe ayers wrote:
>
> > On 3/1/07, Jakob Voss <jakob.voss at nichtich.de> wrote:
> >> Ben Yates wrote:
> >>
> >>> I redid a couple of the posters from last year (they were made too
> >>> late to be used for publicity, but I think it's early enough this
> >>> year).
> >>>
> >>> http://benyates.info/WMPosters/
> >>
> >> Thanks, but please follow the visual guidelines and do not change the
> >> color and shape of Wikimania logo. So
> >>
> >> http://benyates.info/WMPosters/Wikimania%20poster%202.pdf
> >> http://benyates.info/WMPosters/Wikimania%20poster.pdf
> >>
> >> are not appropiate but
> >>
> >> http://benyates.info/WMPosters/Wikimania%20poster%20plain.pdf
> >>
> >> is ok. You can add some colors, borders etc but not the the name
> >> "Wikimania" and not to the logo.
> >
> > Heh. You know Ben designed the logo in the first place, right? So I
> > suppose he can redesign it if he chooses... those posters are based on
> > some of the possible mockups from last year. The text is partly based
> > on last year's CfP and other materials; it should be reworked for this
> > year's conference to reflect this year's different CfP.
> >
> > If the conference is really only going with the original logo with one
> > set of colors, that should be made clear for all the designers. I
> > didn't think there had really been any consensus over whether that
> > logo should be the "official" logo for Wikimania (now and in the
> > future), or whether there can be variations in color, etc. My only
> > opinion is that I like Ben's posters!
> >
> > cheers,
> > phoebe
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Wikimania-l mailing list
> > Wikimania-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wikimania-l mailing list
> Wikimania-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
>


--
Ben Yates
Wikipedia blog - http://wikip.blogspot.com