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Getting indexed by search engines
hey all,
Another q:
Are there any guidelines to getting my wiki indexed by search engines?
Any settings that need to be explicitely changed?

Thanks,
Taneem Talukdar
http://www.dheo.com/



On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 03:07:21 +1000, Zigger <zigger@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon Oct 11 22:47:49 2004, brion wrote:
> > On Oct 11, 2004, at 3:31 PM, udi wrote:
> > > Firstly we get a blank page upon attempting to configure the wiki
> > > using index.php.
> >
> > Can you configure PHP to record an error log? There may be a fatal
> > error which is suppressed by output buffering oddities.
>
> See http://bugzilla.wikipedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=736
>
> > > We therefore tried to manually configure the LocalSettings,php and
> > > AdminSettings.php files, but we received the following report:
> > >
> > > Warning: main(/mediawiki/PHPTAL-NP-0.7.0/libs/PHPTAL.php): failed to
> > > open stream: No such file or directory in
> > > c:\easyphp\www\mediawiki\includes\SkinPHPTal.php on line 32
> >
> > Sounds like you did not set $IP to the correct path. It should be:
> > $IP = "C:\\easyphp\\www\\mediawiki";
> > *not*
> > $IP = "/mediawiki";
>
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Re: Getting indexed by search engines [ In reply to ]
On Thursday 21 October 2004 20:53, Taneem A T wrote:
> Are there any guidelines to getting my wiki indexed by search engines?

http://www.google.com/addurl.html

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Re: Getting indexed by search engines [ In reply to ]
Thanks for the link but I am well aware of the submission policies of
search engines. I was asking if there was anything that had to be done
to the wiki technically. Like, with phpNuke for example, there are
some rewrite settings that help in getting things indexed.

The wiki I am running has been up for a few weeks but has had a lot of
activity, yet does not show up on google, even though all other parts
of our site is listed.

thanks,

Taneem Talukdar
http://www.dheo.com/


On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 03:24:30 +0300, NSK <nsk2@wikinerds.org> wrote:
> On Thursday 21 October 2004 20:53, Taneem A T wrote:
> > Are there any guidelines to getting my wiki indexed by search engines?
>
> http://www.google.com/addurl.html
>
> --
> NSK
> Admin of http://portal.wikinerds.org
> Project Manager of http://www.nerdypc.org
> Project Manager of http://www.adapedia.org
> Project Manager of http://maatworks.wikinerds.org
>
Re: Getting indexed by search engines [ In reply to ]
So you're asking whether there is any way to get MediaWiki to generate
HTML meta tags (with appropriate content parameters).
I don't know the answer, it just seemed to me that that's your question
(right?). I'm just saying.

On 22 Oct 2004, at 04:08, Taneem A T wrote:

> Thanks for the link but I am well aware of the submission policies of
> search engines. I was asking if there was anything that had to be done
> to the wiki technically. Like, with phpNuke for example, there are
> some rewrite settings that help in getting things indexed.
>
> The wiki I am running has been up for a few weeks but has had a lot of
> activity, yet does not show up on google, even though all other parts
> of our site is listed.
>
> thanks,
>
> Taneem Talukdar
> http://www.dheo.com/
>
>
> On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 03:24:30 +0300, NSK <nsk2@wikinerds.org> wrote:
>> On Thursday 21 October 2004 20:53, Taneem A T wrote:
>>> Are there any guidelines to getting my wiki indexed by search
>>> engines?
>>
>> http://www.google.com/addurl.html
>>
>> --
>> NSK
>> Admin of http://portal.wikinerds.org
>> Project Manager of http://www.nerdypc.org
>> Project Manager of http://www.adapedia.org
>> Project Manager of http://maatworks.wikinerds.org
>>
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Re: Getting indexed by search engines [ In reply to ]
On Fri, 2004-22-10 at 05:19 +0200, Jens Ropers wrote:

> So you're asking whether there is any way to get MediaWiki to generate
> HTML meta tags (with appropriate content parameters).
> I don't know the answer, it just seemed to me that that's your question
> (right?). I'm just saying.

It might be worth noting that many pages in MediaWiki sites are have
special meta tags that tell robots not to index the page nor to follow
links in the page. I think it's mostly dynamic pages that don't really
make sense to index. If this were happening for article pages, though,
it'd be a bug.

It might be worth checking if the pages that aren't working have some
weird <meta> tags.

~ESP

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Re: Getting indexed by search engines [ In reply to ]
Thanks for the feedback guys - I don't know a whole lot about the
topic, but perhaps because the content on the wiki is stored in the
database and there no static html pages, so unless you get the wiki to
recognize search bots and serve content nothing will get indexed?
Wikipedia and other wikis show up on google all the time. Maybe I just
need to give my wiki a bit more time :)

Taneem Talukdar
http://www.dheo.com/




On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 23:38:13 -0400, Evan Prodromou <evan@wikitravel.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-22-10 at 05:19 +0200, Jens Ropers wrote:
>
> > So you're asking whether there is any way to get MediaWiki to generate
> > HTML meta tags (with appropriate content parameters).
> > I don't know the answer, it just seemed to me that that's your question
> > (right?). I'm just saying.
>
> It might be worth noting that many pages in MediaWiki sites are have
> special meta tags that tell robots not to index the page nor to follow
> links in the page. I think it's mostly dynamic pages that don't really
> make sense to index. If this were happening for article pages, though,
> it'd be a bug.
>
> It might be worth checking if the pages that aren't working have some
> weird <meta> tags.
>
> ~ESP
>
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Re: Getting indexed by search engines [ In reply to ]
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Taneem A T <thezeropoint@gmail.com> writes:

> Thanks for the feedback guys - I don't know a whole lot about the
> topic, but perhaps because the content on the wiki is stored in the
> database and there no static html pages, so unless you get the wiki to
> recognize search bots and serve content nothing will get indexed?

Use your web browser to view source and look for the META tags close
to the top. Go take a look at http://www.robotstxt.org/

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Re: Getting indexed by search engines [ In reply to ]
Am Thu, 21 Oct 2004 20:08:47 -0600 hat Taneem A T <thezeropoint@gmail.com>
geschrieben:

> Thanks for the link but I am well aware of the submission policies of
> search engines. I was asking if there was anything that had to be done
> to the wiki technically. Like, with phpNuke for example, there are
> some rewrite settings that help in getting things indexed.
>
> The wiki I am running has been up for a few weeks but has had a lot of
> activity, yet does not show up on google, even though all other parts
> of our site is listed.

OH, getting indexed may take as long as 3 months. But when tey finally
index you won't be able to get rid of them anymore either :-)

You need to make shure that as many sites as possible, other search
engines too of course, got a link to your wiki. The more you have the
sooner google will find you anyway. Whether you like it or not :-)

--tic

>
> thanks,
>
> Taneem Talukdar
> http://www.dheo.com/
>
>
> On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 03:24:30 +0300, NSK <nsk2@wikinerds.org> wrote:
>> On Thursday 21 October 2004 20:53, Taneem A T wrote:
>> > Are there any guidelines to getting my wiki indexed by search engines?
>>
>> http://www.google.com/addurl.html
>>
>> --
>> NSK
>> Admin of http://portal.wikinerds.org
>> Project Manager of http://www.nerdypc.org
>> Project Manager of http://www.adapedia.org
>> Project Manager of http://maatworks.wikinerds.org
>>
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Re: Getting indexed by search engines [ In reply to ]
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:53:38 -0600, Taneem A T <thezeropoint@gmail.com> wrote:
> hey all,
> Another q:
> Are there any guidelines to getting my wiki indexed by search engines?
> Any settings that need to be explicitely changed?

Technically speaking, I don't think so. Unless your host has a
robots.txt file that denies robots to index anything, you should be
ok.

Wikimedia is indexed quite well by google. I don't think they've moded
the software too much (correct me if I'm wrong). but like everyone
else said. Check your robots.txt file, check your meta tags, and make
sure some engines get you. (I here that the best way to get on Google
is to get on other engine's lists.)

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Re: Getting indexed by search engines [ In reply to ]
On Oct 23, 2004, at 1:09 PM, Jamie Bliss wrote:
> Technically speaking, I don't think so. Unless your host has a
> robots.txt file that denies robots to index anything, you should be
> ok.

Anecdote: in early 2003 much of Wikipedia dropped off of Google for
about a month due to a missing "/" in our robots.txt file. Make sure
you're not accidentally blocking access to the wiki.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)