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Quoting Brinkle, Jason, from the post of Tue, 12 Oct:
> 2. Linking to categories, like [[:Category:CategoryName]], will provide
> a link to that category, but it always puts the page in edit mode. Is there
> something I may be doing wrong?

add a few lines describing the category and save it... :)

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Worked like a charm! Thanks! Now how about my math tag problem? ;-)

-Jason


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[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Ira Abramov
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 9:44 AM
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Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] a few issues

Quoting Brinkle, Jason, from the post of Tue, 12 Oct:
> 2. Linking to categories, like [[:Category:CategoryName]], will provide
> a link to that category, but it always puts the page in edit mode. Is
there
> something I may be doing wrong?

add a few lines describing the category and save it... :)

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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:36:15 -0500, Brinkle, Jason
<jason.brinkle@aiminvestments.com> wrote:

> 3. Is there wiki code to be able to open links in a new window
> (external links)?

No, this has generally been considered to be a Bad Idea, since this
should be up to the user and their browser-interface, rather than the
website they are viewing. (I believe shift-click, ctrl-click and the
middle mouse button allow users of some browsers to open a link in
either a new window or a new tab).

If you really really want to hack the code and insert one, you need to
look at includes/Skin.php: the function that generates ext. links is
"makeExternalLink()", or you could add it in
"getExternalLinkAttributes()"

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[IMSoP]

Heh. Ok, I guess that makes sense. Nice to know it's available though.

Now how about my math tag problem? ;-)

-Jason


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Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 3:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] a few issues

On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:36:15 -0500, Brinkle, Jason
<jason.brinkle@aiminvestments.com> wrote:

> 3. Is there wiki code to be able to open links in a new window
> (external links)?

No, this has generally been considered to be a Bad Idea, since this
should be up to the user and their browser-interface, rather than the
website they are viewing. (I believe shift-click, ctrl-click and the
middle mouse button allow users of some browsers to open a link in
either a new window or a new tab).

If you really really want to hack the code and insert one, you need to
look at includes/Skin.php: the function that generates ext. links is
"makeExternalLink()", or you could add it in
"getExternalLinkAttributes()"

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]
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On 12 Oct 2004, at 14:36, Brinkle, Jason wrote:

> 1. I can't get the <math> tags to display anything - they just display
> the code I put in. I have tex packages on my system, but is there
> something
> I'm missing that needs to parse these tags correctly?

You need TeX packages on your server, but you also need texvc, which is
included in one of the MediaWiki plugin directories as a source
distribution. It didn't compile cleanly for me (at Dreamhost - their
server setup is a little weird sometimes), so I tried downloading this
precompiled Linux/x86 binary:
http://download.wikimedia.org/texvc-linux-x86-20040107.tar.gz
...uncompressed into the correct folder, it worked first time.

I can't remember where I came across it, but search around for 'texvc'
and you'll find copious notes.

--
Jonathan Sanderson
'If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter.' (Pascal)

> > 3. Is there wiki code to be able to open links in a new window
> > (external links)?
>
> No, this has generally been considered to be a Bad Idea, since this
> should be up to the user and their browser-interface, rather than the
> website they are viewing. (I believe shift-click, ctrl-click and the
> middle mouse button allow users of some browsers to open a link in
> either a new window or a new tab).

Although I agree with you, a recent discussion on the CHI-WEB list brought up
the fact that it seems as though opening external links in a new window is a
growing trend and may someday become the expected behaviour. I never win.

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Jack Baty
Fusionary Media - http://fusionary.com/
Weblog - http://jackbaty.com

"He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife.
Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here
and merely hoped that there wasn't an afterlife"
--Douglass Adams

On 12 Oct 2004, at 22:36, Jack Baty wrote:

> "He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife.
> Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here
> and merely hoped that there wasn't an afterlife"
> --Douglass Adams

There's no contradiction there at all:
I for one am a polythesist, so I believe in a multitude of Gods to whom
I can and sometimes do pray.
I don't however believe in an afterlife (i.e. there is no afterlife for
humans and the Gods are essentially immortal anyway).
Granted, the quote IS paradoxical if you're, say, Christian or Muslim
or similar. That doesn't however warrant any (IMHO patently absurd)
sweeping generalizations.

;-)

> On 12 Oct 2004, at 22:36, Jack Baty wrote:
>
> >"He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife.
> >Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here
> >and merely hoped that there wasn't an afterlife"
> > --Douglass Adams
>
> There's no contradiction there at all:
> I for one am a polythesist, so I believe in a multitude of Gods to whom
> I can and sometimes do pray.
> I don't however believe in an afterlife (i.e. there is no afterlife for
> humans and the Gods are essentially immortal anyway).
> Granted, the quote IS paradoxical if you're, say, Christian or Muslim
> or similar. That doesn't however warrant any (IMHO patently absurd)
> sweeping generalizations.
>
> ;-)

And here I thought it was just a cute, albeit unnecessary little snippet for
my sig!

The original author, Mr. Adams, is now deceased. Perhaps we should ask him...
Oh wait... nevermind :)

--
Jack Baty
Fusionary Media - http://fusionary.com/
Weblog - http://jackbaty.com

[sweeping generalization removed]

LOL!

:-D

On 13 Oct 2004, at 02:51, Jack Baty wrote:

>> On 12 Oct 2004, at 22:36, Jack Baty wrote:
>>
>>> "He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife.
>>> Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here
>>> and merely hoped that there wasn't an afterlife"
>>> --Douglass Adams
>>
>> There's no contradiction there at all:
>> I for one am a polythesist, so I believe in a multitude of Gods to
>> whom
>> I can and sometimes do pray.
>> I don't however believe in an afterlife (i.e. there is no afterlife
>> for
>> humans and the Gods are essentially immortal anyway).
>> Granted, the quote IS paradoxical if you're, say, Christian or Muslim
>> or similar. That doesn't however warrant any (IMHO patently absurd)
>> sweeping generalizations.
>>
>> ;-)
>
> And here I thought it was just a cute, albeit unnecessary little
> snippet for
> my sig!
>
> The original author, Mr. Adams, is now deceased. Perhaps we should ask
> him...
> Oh wait... nevermind :)
>
> --
> Jack Baty

Yes, I totally skipped over the math/ directory. I went ahead and
downloaded Ocaml, compiled it (set some time aside for doing that - it took
a while), then compiled texvc from the math/ directory. For some reason, it
didn't seem to take right away - maybe my page was cached - but I just
checked it again and it's displaying math! Just tried another on a new page
and it works great!

Thanks for your help!

-Jason

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Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 3:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] a few issues

On 12 Oct 2004, at 14:36, Brinkle, Jason wrote:

> 1. I can't get the <math> tags to display anything - they just display
> the code I put in. I have tex packages on my system, but is there
> something
> I'm missing that needs to parse these tags correctly?

You need TeX packages on your server, but you also need texvc, which is
included in one of the MediaWiki plugin directories as a source
distribution. It didn't compile cleanly for me (at Dreamhost - their
server setup is a little weird sometimes), so I tried downloading this
precompiled Linux/x86 binary:
http://download.wikimedia.org/texvc-linux-x86-20040107.tar.gz
...uncompressed into the correct folder, it worked first time.

I can't remember where I came across it, but search around for 'texvc'
and you'll find copious notes.

--
Jonathan Sanderson
'If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter.' (Pascal)

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