Sysops can set an IP block exempt group for other users (including
themselves) in their local wiki. The procedure is different in different
wikis, but for example, in Finnish Wikipedia, you need to ask for it, and
the admin will add you to the group if you have a reasonable reason, such
as the user is using a VPN. Basically, everybody who has been asking for
the IP block exempt flag is using it well.
However, VPNs are also commonly used to avoid blocking and masking
problematic behavior patterns, including editing warring, ignoring other
users, causing personal attacks, and hounding. So, it is not only about
protecting the editor using a VPN but also about protecting other users
from unsuitable behavior made through VPNs.
Br,
-- Kimmo Virtanen, Zache
On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 2:39?PM Valerio Bozzolan via Wikimedia-l <
wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Unfortunately a VPN is not a solution at the moment.
>
> Because of interesting historical reasons, people using VPN or other
> "open proxies" cannot edit most Wikimedia projects, as default
>
> - even if they are logged-in
> - even if they are autopatrolled
> - even if they are sysop (!)
> - ecc.
>
> This is an interesting "feature" that will never change without RFC.
>
> So no, unfortunately we are not ready to suggest a VPN since it does
> not immediately work, so you cannot immediately quit censorship or
> similar things, at least without additional on-wiki bureaucratic
> procedure.
>
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309328
>
> Not something I would propose to an entire nation, at the moment.
>
> I also have no other ideas...
>
> -boz
>
> On Tue, 2024-03-19 at 22:03 +0530, James Heilman wrote:
> > Can you not just use a VPN?
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themselves) in their local wiki. The procedure is different in different
wikis, but for example, in Finnish Wikipedia, you need to ask for it, and
the admin will add you to the group if you have a reasonable reason, such
as the user is using a VPN. Basically, everybody who has been asking for
the IP block exempt flag is using it well.
However, VPNs are also commonly used to avoid blocking and masking
problematic behavior patterns, including editing warring, ignoring other
users, causing personal attacks, and hounding. So, it is not only about
protecting the editor using a VPN but also about protecting other users
from unsuitable behavior made through VPNs.
Br,
-- Kimmo Virtanen, Zache
On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 2:39?PM Valerio Bozzolan via Wikimedia-l <
wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Unfortunately a VPN is not a solution at the moment.
>
> Because of interesting historical reasons, people using VPN or other
> "open proxies" cannot edit most Wikimedia projects, as default
>
> - even if they are logged-in
> - even if they are autopatrolled
> - even if they are sysop (!)
> - ecc.
>
> This is an interesting "feature" that will never change without RFC.
>
> So no, unfortunately we are not ready to suggest a VPN since it does
> not immediately work, so you cannot immediately quit censorship or
> similar things, at least without additional on-wiki bureaucratic
> procedure.
>
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309328
>
> Not something I would propose to an entire nation, at the moment.
>
> I also have no other ideas...
>
> -boz
>
> On Tue, 2024-03-19 at 22:03 +0530, James Heilman wrote:
> > Can you not just use a VPN?
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