Richard, Isn't the purpose of this mailing list to discuss topics related
to the movement?
I believe that when a community's decision to use movement resources
affects other communities and affiliates, as well as the movement's vision,
the movement and the foundation should speak out.
Otherwise, there is no end to the personal interpretation of our movement's
vision. Perhaps some editors on English Wikipedia would like to blackout
ENWP in protest of Netflix's decision not to continue The Crown for another
season. Isn't this an expression of freedom of culture and creativity?
On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 8:58?PM Pharos <pharosofalexandria@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would like to thank Farah, as well as Itzik and others, for their
> messages and the explanation of their contexts.
>
> I don't think further open-ended discussion on wikimedia-l would be
> productive for this topic.
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
> (User:Pharos)
>
> On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 11:03?AM James Heilman <jmh649@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Itzik, this applies only to ar WP correct? Hebrew WP can of course take
>> actions as they see fit. Each project is somewhat independent of others.
>>
>> J
>>
>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 05:38 itzik Edri <itzik@wikimedia.org.il> wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately, not only did Arabic Wikipedia go dark, but also the
>>> entire movement. The day marks a sad day in the history of a movement that
>>> should be neutral and respect the movement's readers, volunteers and donors
>>> around the world. This was the day when one of our most important projects
>>> was taken hostage by politics. This is not the vision of our movement. It
>>> is not what hundreds of thousands of volunteers have worked so hard to
>>> build.
>>>
>>> For more than 19 years, I have volunteered for this movement, and I have
>>> never felt so ashamed.
>>>
>>> What's next?
>>>
>>> Let's take dark Hebrew Wikipedia and call for the release of 130 babies,
>>> elders, and civilians who were taken from their beds and are being held
>>> captive for more than two months without access to the red cross, whose
>>> medical condition is unknown.
>>>
>>> In addition, I hope that European Wikipedias will go dark to raise
>>> awareness about the rising antisemitism and violence towards Jews.
>>>
>>> I believe that this is our commitment as a movement according to the
>>> updated movement mission, as it seems from Arabic Wikipedia last action.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Itzik
>>> A proud Israeli and a proud chairperson of Wikimedia Israel.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 23, 2023, 03:19 Farah Jack Mustaklem <fjmustak@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Greetings to all,
>>>>
>>>> Arabic Wikipedia editors have agreed to hold a day of action to
>>>> highlight the plight of the Palestinian people and to call for peace. At
>>>> 00:00 UTC on the 23rd of December, the Arabic Wikipedia "went dark",
>>>> meaning that Wikipedia will not be editable for 24 hours. Wikipedia remains
>>>> accessible for reading, though.
>>>>
>>>> This action stems from the community's sense of moral duty to combat
>>>> injustice. Wikipedia communities have previously stood up for human rights
>>>> such as by protesting legal travesties like SOPA and PIPA or by showing
>>>> solidarity with Ukrainians following Russia's invasion of their country.
>>>>
>>>> May everyone celebrating the holidays - and those who aren't - stay
>>>> safe, and may peace and justice prevail throughout the World.
>>>>
>>>> All the best
>>>>
>>>> Farah
>>>>
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to the movement?
I believe that when a community's decision to use movement resources
affects other communities and affiliates, as well as the movement's vision,
the movement and the foundation should speak out.
Otherwise, there is no end to the personal interpretation of our movement's
vision. Perhaps some editors on English Wikipedia would like to blackout
ENWP in protest of Netflix's decision not to continue The Crown for another
season. Isn't this an expression of freedom of culture and creativity?
On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 8:58?PM Pharos <pharosofalexandria@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would like to thank Farah, as well as Itzik and others, for their
> messages and the explanation of their contexts.
>
> I don't think further open-ended discussion on wikimedia-l would be
> productive for this topic.
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
> (User:Pharos)
>
> On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 11:03?AM James Heilman <jmh649@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Itzik, this applies only to ar WP correct? Hebrew WP can of course take
>> actions as they see fit. Each project is somewhat independent of others.
>>
>> J
>>
>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 05:38 itzik Edri <itzik@wikimedia.org.il> wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately, not only did Arabic Wikipedia go dark, but also the
>>> entire movement. The day marks a sad day in the history of a movement that
>>> should be neutral and respect the movement's readers, volunteers and donors
>>> around the world. This was the day when one of our most important projects
>>> was taken hostage by politics. This is not the vision of our movement. It
>>> is not what hundreds of thousands of volunteers have worked so hard to
>>> build.
>>>
>>> For more than 19 years, I have volunteered for this movement, and I have
>>> never felt so ashamed.
>>>
>>> What's next?
>>>
>>> Let's take dark Hebrew Wikipedia and call for the release of 130 babies,
>>> elders, and civilians who were taken from their beds and are being held
>>> captive for more than two months without access to the red cross, whose
>>> medical condition is unknown.
>>>
>>> In addition, I hope that European Wikipedias will go dark to raise
>>> awareness about the rising antisemitism and violence towards Jews.
>>>
>>> I believe that this is our commitment as a movement according to the
>>> updated movement mission, as it seems from Arabic Wikipedia last action.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Itzik
>>> A proud Israeli and a proud chairperson of Wikimedia Israel.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 23, 2023, 03:19 Farah Jack Mustaklem <fjmustak@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Greetings to all,
>>>>
>>>> Arabic Wikipedia editors have agreed to hold a day of action to
>>>> highlight the plight of the Palestinian people and to call for peace. At
>>>> 00:00 UTC on the 23rd of December, the Arabic Wikipedia "went dark",
>>>> meaning that Wikipedia will not be editable for 24 hours. Wikipedia remains
>>>> accessible for reading, though.
>>>>
>>>> This action stems from the community's sense of moral duty to combat
>>>> injustice. Wikipedia communities have previously stood up for human rights
>>>> such as by protesting legal travesties like SOPA and PIPA or by showing
>>>> solidarity with Ukrainians following Russia's invasion of their country.
>>>>
>>>> May everyone celebrating the holidays - and those who aren't - stay
>>>> safe, and may peace and justice prevail throughout the World.
>>>>
>>>> All the best
>>>>
>>>> Farah
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org,
>>>> guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines
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